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Chrisrogers3
Posted on Monday, July 18, 2011 - 09:42 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Alright, so just yesterday I picked up my Midnight Black 2010 Uly XT (Cali bike)....

Here is what I need

1.)P/N for the X beak/front fender (or someone who wants to trade fenders.... I will throw in cash).

2.) Since it is a Cali bike it has the ugly canister on it, can I remove this? Any ECM reflash that needs to happen if I do?

3.) It has the latest fan logic update, BUT my right leg still gets hot as hell (No better than my 06 Uly w/o the comfort kit, what gives?

4.) Anyone with a 2010 Uly want to trade plastics? I want the Yellow. My plastics are in perfect condition.


I will post pics of if later today.

Thanks in advance for the help guys/gals!
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Etennuly
Posted on Monday, July 18, 2011 - 10:14 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Well near as I can tell.....you suck!

I don't know crap about the 2010, good luck finding some who do! I'm stuck in '06 and could not be happier about it!

If life had continued as it was going a few years ago I would be at around 75,000 miles now with my eye on a new 2012 or 2013 Uly.....but things change, life sucks sometimes, and plans get altered!

If I ever get back to riding as much as I used to, my plan is to hang my Uly on a wall after it hits 100,000 miles as a display of functional art. Then I had planned for and still will get on a new one(what ever that might be).
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Electraglider_1997
Posted on Monday, July 18, 2011 - 10:21 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

2012/2013 Erik Buell Racing-AX.
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Electraglider_1997
Posted on Monday, July 18, 2011 - 10:24 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Get some aluminum tape and seal under the seat. Here's photos of what can help.

http://www.badweatherbikers.com/buell/messages/142 838/295156.html
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Chrisrogers3
Posted on Monday, July 18, 2011 - 12:44 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Etennuly- I have my 06 as well and absolutely love it. I got a steal on this 2010 and I just couldnt in any rational mindset pass it up.

Electra- It doesnt seem to be my ass that gets hot, its my leg. I do think that the comfort kit made a huge improvement for the seat heat, but my right leg still is burning!
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Blackdog
Posted on Monday, July 18, 2011 - 01:08 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I have a 2009 XT with comfort kit. Right leg still gets hot, over 90 degrees its cooking. This is my second Buell. The comfort kit helps but does not fix the heat problem 100%.
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Schwara
Posted on Monday, July 18, 2011 - 01:23 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

'09 XT, currently red but will most likely have it wrapped in black next year. I've added all of the various heat shields that Odie (Special OPS) offers for the Uly, rider comfort kit, race ECM from Erik Buell Racing, and also changed out the oil with Mobil 1 20w50 V-Twin. I think the combination of all of these has made a noticeable difference, but I am hoping that I can afford to send my headers in to American Sport Bike (americansportbike.com) to get them ceramic coated as a Christmas present to myself later this year. I've read that this makes a HUGE differences. My heat issues don’t seem to bother me as much as they used to anymore though just the way she is now. Of course someone just told me that today the heat index here in Cincy is supposed to be over 100 when I plan to head home from work. We'll see how that goes. Have fun with the 2010. I wish I could have found one when I was looking. Oh well, I love my ’09.
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Hughlysses
Posted on Monday, July 18, 2011 - 01:54 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

The main reason your right leg gets hot with the Comfort Kit installed is that the cool air being forced into the area around the rear cylinder head by the new right side scoop is getting heated up and some of it is coming out of the gap between the top of the frame rail and the bottom of the seat on the right side of the bike. This narrow jet of very hot air will cook your inner thigh. You'll probably notice less heat if the fan kicks on because it helps draw this air out rather than allowing it to blast out of the seat/frame gap.

To fix it, you can either install aluminum HVAC tape to seal off the frame opening above the rear cylinder head (some of EG's photos show this) or you can install automotive weather stripping between the seat and the frame rail to seal off the opening.

Either option works well; I've tried both.
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Motorbike
Posted on Monday, July 18, 2011 - 02:42 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I used to have heat issues on my 08XT also. I now have the Erik Buell Racing ECM, which includes the new fan program so the fan runs at any speed over 15 mph. I also installed the front part of the Odie's heat shield. I installed the comfort kit a while back (except for the heat shield on the pipe) and still have the stock muffler.

I went for a short (225 miles) ride yesterday in this heat wave and I never once felt any excess heat on my right leg. But, then again, maybe the rest of my body was about to melt down so my leg didn't feel as hot as it normally would?

Fltwistygirl, how ya liking this cool Minnesota weather?
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Etennuly
Posted on Monday, July 18, 2011 - 02:46 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I was wondering if you still had your '06. Froggy can bash them, throw his on the ground, talk trash about them, and pout all he wants about the '06s, but he can't have mine!


I did about 200 miles yesterday where the only time I felt the heat was from the direct sunlight when I stopped moving. Of course I run my fan all of the time when the temps are above 70F.

(Message edited by etennuly on July 18, 2011)
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Chrisrogers3
Posted on Monday, July 18, 2011 - 04:04 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Vern, we all know that froggy is just jealous of our Orange 06's..... a big part of me has thought about taking my Orange from my 06 and putting it on my 10.

In all honesty (and I might not be able to fully back this up just yet since I only have about 20 miles on my new one) but here are my personal thoughts on my 2010 so far vs. my 06.........

The appearance of my 2006 just cannot compete with the 2010. Buell perfected the look of the Ulys with the 2010 color scheme (frame, engine, body).

As far as the mechanical updates/electrical updates I love the fact that Buell addressed pretty much EVERY downfall we as Uly owners ever brought up (with the exception of the damn rusty muffler haha). Knowing that individuals at the factory put that much pride in the pursuit of improvements and perfection really speaks volumes for the company. Now with that though, if I never would have put my leg over the 2010, I would have never known any better and still been helplessly in love with my 2006..... As soon as I threw my leg over the 2010 I opened a door that could not be shut again.

The 2010 Ulysses is the smoothest bike I have been on from Buell and it killed me to put only 20 miles on it yesterday (I only stopped riding it because I am really anal about my bikes and I want to do a full service to it (even though it just broke 4000 miles).

I am going to have my 2010 Ulysses for hopefully the rest of my life, as for my 06, well I think she will be getting a new home because I dont see myself riding it as long as I have my 2010.
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Froggy
Posted on Monday, July 18, 2011 - 04:15 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Hey I wasn't gonna say anything in this thread!

Enjoy the 2010, it is the best bike you can get with that air cooled boat anchor : )
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Chrisrogers3
Posted on Monday, July 18, 2011 - 04:28 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

haha I knew we couldnt keep you quiet that much longer on this thread Froggy :-) ..... I will take my boat anchor over your angry lobster anyday!
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Etennuly
Posted on Monday, July 18, 2011 - 06:26 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Hey I wasn't gonna say anything in this thread!

You were too! I could feel the disturbance in the Force!

I felt the same way when I bought my Uly verses having had my '05 City-X for a near perfect year of riding. Once the Uly showed up the City-X had no reason to be here. In three months it never moved, so I sold it. I thought having a choice of which one to ride would be great. But you wisely have seen that only one will be ridden.

Other than my four page list of problems, I never saw any downfall in ownership of this '06. I can say this about that, there are far fewer problems as time goes on and once a problem has been fixed, it seldom is an issue again, except for wear items of course.

Congrats on the new ride.


Where is the picture of it?
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Johnboy777
Posted on Monday, July 18, 2011 - 07:09 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

""Other than my four page list of problems, I never saw any downfall in ownership of this '06. I can say this about that, there are far fewer problems as time goes on and once a problem has been fixed, it seldom is an issue again, except for wear items of course.""

Now there's a great testimonial ad.

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Etennuly
Posted on Monday, July 18, 2011 - 07:57 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Truth in advertising is always a good thing.....isn't it?

My ad for GMC would be just as bad, four pages sounds about right. For Chevrolet it would be a fair bit worse, the buy back took probably twenty pages for legal stuff on it's own. For Ford.....well let's say an eighty page manuscript, with essay after essay on keeping a diesel turd polished enough to run makes anything from my Buell a little blip on the radar.....excuse me.....I have to buy some more American...... I cannot help myself, I am a homeboy drinkin' the koolaid. I gotta go get me another Dodge before.....what.....the Germans did what?
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Schwara
Posted on Tuesday, July 19, 2011 - 10:20 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I wanted to let you know that even though the Special OPS heat shields don't truly seal per Hughlysses post, I believe that they do a pretty darn good job of blocking that airflow. I don't notice heat like what he was referring to. The only thing I really feel now is the heat coming off of the headers. I've actually been a little curious if I am now possibly reflecting too much heat and cooking my battery and ECM. Does anyone think that might be an actual concern?

I didn't think to mention before that if you would be interested in red components let me know. One way or another I'll be going to black as I like that look so whether I wrap my current pieces or trade them off I will be doing that at some point. Mine are in pretty good shape although the airbox cover has some slight scuffs do to the tank bag that the previous owner kept on it. They can't be seen over 3 feet away. The left Buell logo also needs to be reapplied at some point since the tank bag also wiggled that around a little as well. Once again not something you will even notice over 3 feet away. Since mine are probably more worn than yours ('09 XT w 20K) I would be OK with throwing some $$ into the deal. Let me know.
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Johnboy777
Posted on Tuesday, July 19, 2011 - 01:15 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

""I am now possibly reflecting too much heat and cooking my battery and ECM."

And the shock - the heat cooks everything.

That's what happens when you put an air-cooled engine in a big metal box.

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Whisperstealth
Posted on Tuesday, July 19, 2011 - 03:33 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I ride with my air box cover off. Yeah, it looks a little mad max like, but allows much better air flow around the rear head. You still feel the heat, but is it not as concentrated, and the over all effect is less discomfort. I had done the alum-seal technique, and just about eliminated the heat, but realized that trapped more heat in the engine/head. The CK is a rider comfort kit, not an engine comfort kit. My .02 ymmv.
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Hughlysses
Posted on Tuesday, July 19, 2011 - 04:11 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I had done the alum-seal technique, and just about eliminated the heat, but realized that trapped more heat in the engine/head.

That's why I changed back to the weatherstripping on the frame rail after my recent engine change. It's almost as effective and it does give more space for air to flow around the rear head, although this means it goes under the seat which heats up the seat more. I applied aluminum HVAC tape to the bottom of the seat to help with that.
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Etennuly
Posted on Tuesday, July 19, 2011 - 04:28 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

All of these are reasons that I feel good about running my fan all of the time. It never seems to get as hot as it used to, but when the ECM was controlling the fan there was no telling when it was on or not.

One scoop, two scoops, I believe that fan running is a good thing for keeping the heat from pilling up around the rear cylinder.
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Johnboy777
Posted on Tuesday, July 19, 2011 - 05:51 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I run a richer air/fuel mixture - that has cooled things down for me.

That along with Mobil 1, and I rarely see 180/185 deg.(EG's Temp Gauge), even on the hottest days here in Ohio.

""All of these are reasons that I feel good about running my fan all of the time""

East Tenn, did you ever post a how-to on that?

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(Message edited by johnboy777 on July 19, 2011)
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Etennuly
Posted on Tuesday, July 19, 2011 - 06:42 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Yeah, there were hundreds of posts about "Flashy light/Run/Skip" and all manor of attempts to fix it. Somewhere in there was even the how I/we did the fan manual switch.

It is a simple affair. Cut lead from ECM to fan. Tape and tie back ECM end of wire. Run fan end of the wire to manual switch on bars. Run other post back to a good ground. Turn on switch when fan is needed, make sure to turn it off when not needed. It has been a while but I think it is the blue wire, the fan has power on it all of the time. The ECM controlled the ground lead of the fan.

I recommend getting the best waterproof lighted switch you can find. This is a rather important accessory.
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Ulyssesmatt
Posted on Wednesday, July 20, 2011 - 07:42 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I'm glad to see you've found one Chris.


quote:

1.)P/N for the X beak/front fender








I have the 2010 Parts Catalog, Service Manual and Electrical Manual if you need anything.
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Jasonb
Posted on Wednesday, July 20, 2011 - 10:09 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

If you have any interest lowering it, let me know. Congrats on the bike!
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Chrisrogers3
Posted on Thursday, July 21, 2011 - 10:43 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Hey Matt, Thanks a lot for the P/N's! I see you are thinking of selling yours again. Sorry we couldn't work out a deal there.


As promised to everyone, here are a couple pics for your viewing pleasure! Once I finally have a chance to service the bike and set it up I will post updated pics (Hopefully Saturday).







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Uly_man
Posted on Thursday, July 21, 2011 - 01:05 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Well for what its worth?

My 2010 XB12X engine is getting better as the miles build and by 4 to 6k it will be run in but that was the same with my 06 Uly. One thing that is not the same, over a std 06 bike, is that the throttle response is better in the lower rev range. The active exhaust system works now unlike the 06 bike. It even sounds better and has some engine braking. It holds a steady 1000rpm idle but I would prefer to be able to adjust it a little higher myself.

The only things that still bug me are the non adjustable clutch lever and rear brake pedal. Both of these issues I can, and will, fix but it would have been nice if I did not have to do so. Both of these help with low speed control.
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Chrisrogers3
Posted on Thursday, July 21, 2011 - 01:20 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

ULy_man- Do you notice the first 5-10 minutes a high idle (1500 rpm)?

The throttle response is unbelievable on my 2010.
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Whisperstealth
Posted on Thursday, July 21, 2011 - 05:08 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Chris, I would recommend taking out the front turn signal spacers. will help in the event of a tip over.
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Froggy
Posted on Thursday, July 21, 2011 - 05:13 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

The idle is computer controlled, you can easily adjust it to your taste, but I recommend leaving it as is.
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