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Andymnelson
Posted on Monday, June 27, 2011 - 01:07 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I've been running a vented-to-atmosphere breather for about a year now, I recently finally got around to installing a catch can. I can not believe the amount of crap that used get burned in the motor. See this video and pictures, this is after 4 rides, about 30 miles!



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Pkforbes87
Posted on Monday, June 27, 2011 - 04:04 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Yep, that's perfectly normal.

One thing I found odd, is that mine didn't have any spooge in it until I got around 10k miles on the bike. Before that, it was always perfectly clear water with a slight chemical smell to it.
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Andymnelson
Posted on Monday, June 27, 2011 - 04:17 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

That is interesting. I have 25k on this motor.
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Eryngium
Posted on Monday, June 27, 2011 - 07:01 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Thanks. Very timely. I rerouted a month or two ago and started noticing the same output. I had intended to ask a similar question.

Thanks for beating me to it.
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Johnboy777
Posted on Monday, June 27, 2011 - 08:15 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I wish I hadn't waiting so long to do mine. My engine was ingesting all that crap for over 12,000 mile.
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Pkforbes87
Posted on Monday, June 27, 2011 - 10:58 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I literally never rode mine before doing this mod. It had 7 miles on it from the factory before I hauled it home in the back of an S-15 and promptly rerouted the breathers : D

Everything in the airbox has been spotless every time I open it to do routine maintenance.
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Growl
Posted on Tuesday, June 28, 2011 - 03:11 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I suggest that that much spoog indicates over filling oil... keeping in mind that the "sweet spot" oil level is maybe one notch above minimum level.
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Growl
Posted on Tuesday, June 28, 2011 - 03:12 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Yet... I think I'll re route my breather anyway :-)
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Andymnelson
Posted on Tuesday, June 28, 2011 - 03:25 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

lol, not even close....but thanks! (says the guy who owns 3 Buells, and maintains about 8 others! ; ) )
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Teeps
Posted on Tuesday, June 28, 2011 - 08:49 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I routed the breather on the Uly so it dumps at the end of the exhaust outlet.

Problem solved.
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Ourdee
Posted on Sunday, July 03, 2011 - 04:00 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)


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Electraglider_1997
Posted on Monday, July 04, 2011 - 07:06 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Ourdee,
That made me laugh. Thanks.
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Electraglider_1997
Posted on Monday, July 04, 2011 - 07:09 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Andy,
Probably collected that much because the bike maybe wasn't completely warmed up and water condensate was building up. Just a guess.
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Electraglider_1997
Posted on Monday, July 04, 2011 - 07:23 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

What are you guys using to plug the holes in the breather box baseplate after you've rerouted the hoses.
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Teeps
Posted on Monday, July 04, 2011 - 07:37 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I found some plastic push plugs at home depot.

Glued them in with hight temp RTV
looked like these:
http://www.clipsandfasteners.com/Black_Nylon_Locking_Hole_Plug_1_2_p/a18902.htm

(Message edited by teeps on July 04, 2011)
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Andymnelson
Posted on Monday, July 04, 2011 - 10:19 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I dunno- it gets that much no matter how much I ride or how far. Doesn't bother me at all, I'm just glad to not be burning it anymore!

as far as the holes in the baseplate: I have no pics, but I simply took an extra section of the hose and looped through both holes, effectively plugging them.
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Electraglider_1997
Posted on Monday, July 04, 2011 - 11:02 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Both those ideas are good ones, thanks. And I also like the idea of running the vent hose to a spot next to the tail pipe.
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Teeps
Posted on Tuesday, July 05, 2011 - 11:17 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Adel clamp will replace the zip ties.







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Electraglider_1997
Posted on Tuesday, July 05, 2011 - 11:20 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Teeps,
Have those zip ties actually held up without melting because they actually seem to be a nice looking solution. If they melt then I'd just wire like a spiral bound note book.
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Uly_man
Posted on Tuesday, July 05, 2011 - 12:02 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I ran mine to the front of the can on my old 06 bike with no problems. It was just a little messy on the can.

I have just run the breathers, on my 2010 bike, to the plus side of the air box. Thats the old school way of doing it.
Its no problem with a K&N/Piper type air filter as you can clean them.

After doing this I noted right away that the engine vibs less from cold, feels smoother and vibs less at idle once hot.
In other words the engine does not like burning water/oil vapour. Well who would have guessed that one.
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Teeps
Posted on Tuesday, July 05, 2011 - 12:22 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

So far they have not melted. The shield doesn't get that hot.

I just thought the clamp would look better...

(Message edited by teeps on July 05, 2011)
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Electraglider_1997
Posted on Tuesday, July 05, 2011 - 01:13 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Teeps,
I think the clamp would be more noticeable and not necessarily better.
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Teeps
Posted on Tuesday, July 05, 2011 - 03:32 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

You may be right.
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Electraglider_1997
Posted on Tuesday, July 05, 2011 - 06:11 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I think those zip ties are HDPE and it doesn't melt until it reaches 266 F. So that perforated tailpipe guard must not be getting that hot.
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Andymnelson
Posted on Tuesday, July 05, 2011 - 07:32 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I ran mine open to the ground for almost a year. I was very much sick of the mess on the muffler and on the ground. I'm a bit pick y about my muffler tho, since I run a stainless Drummer with no chin fairing. Either way, look at all the crap in the video....after only 2 rides. That's a lot of crap to be on the bike and ground!
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