| Author | Message | ||
     Dmmblaze |
I have a new rear scorpion trail on its way in the mail and was asking my neighbor (who is an old Harley guy) where he takes his bike to have the tires changed out. Saint Paul Harley won't install a tire not bought from them... To make a long story short, he swears by the added step of having a tube mounted with the tubeless tires on his bikes. Amongst the various reasons he listed, the one that stood out to me most was rim leak. Which has me wondering if anyone on here advocates tubes in our tires or thinks it is a waste? | ||
| Etennuly |
Waste of money in these solid rims. Good idea if you have gouged up edges or corrosion where the bead sits. | ||
| Andymnelson |
I guess the question I'd be asking myself is "have I ever experienced rim leak?". My answer is without a doubt no. So I would say waste of money and added weight. St Paul HD turned into a bunch of tools as soon as HD dumped Buell. Take your wheels off your bike yourself and bring them into Hitching Post. | ||
| Rwcfrank |
You should not put a tube in a tubeless tire because it will build up excessive heat. On a side note you will not be able to repair a puncture on the road with a plug potentially requiring a trip to a shop for a repair. | ||
| Dmmblaze |
Yeah, that was my first impression, that it was a waste for solid rims. My neighbor probably is stuck in his ways from his older bikes back in the day. So it's worth it to him for peace of mind, even if it doesn't do anything. Experience is always worth something, and he is an elder I respect so I figured it couldn't hurt to seek a few more opinions. Thanks for the tip Andy. I used to stop by the Midway Hitching Post all the time during my senior year of High school when I was eying buying my first bike. The University Ave shop closed down shortly after, but I have heard good things about the South Saint Paul shop that isn't too far away. They quoted me an approximate total of $55 to put a new tire on with the wheel off the bike. Time to dust off the service manual and see what goes in to getting the wheels off. Hope it really is as simple as most on here make it out to be. Thanks everyone. | ||
| Natexlh1000 |
My friend got a nail in his Ducati's new rear tire and he installed a tube in the tire. It worked for him. As for losing air from the bead, that's just B.S. I usually wear out my tires before I have to add air. | ||
| Yjsrule |
I can't imagine what a pain it would be trying to put a tube in one of these rims. My supermoto rims are a pain because they have a bead like a tubeless tire but they are spoke and have a decent dip in the center unlike the Buell wheels. | ||
| Pitchondesign |
It is even possible to put a tube in a Uly rim? The rim is raised by the valve stem. Would the valve stem from the tube be long enough? I don't know the answer to this, but on by bike (Uly 06) it looks marginal. | ||
| Uly_dude |
My tire changing shop(midwest cycle on nicollet ave - $39 per tire not bought there, $29 if you buy it there) guy told me our rims have a ridge near the bead that will chaffe the tube and puncture it eventually. He recommend I not do that when I was inquiring about buying a tire that needed a tube. | ||
| Uly_man |
"To make a long story short, he swears by the added step of having a tube mounted with the tubeless tires on his bikes. Amongst the various reasons he listed, the one that stood out to me most was rim leak." What a stunningly stupid thing to suggest. Not only is it dangerous it has no advantages what so ever. Never EVER do this. | ||
| Datsaxman |
Uly_man Thanks for the laugh. "Stunningly stupid..." True Dat! Blaze, $55 is a LOT for mounting a tire...and stop taking advice from that neighbor. YJ, tubes are easy. First bead goes on...then tube goes in...then second bead. I think the trick is to have a trick little tool to fish the stem through the rim AFTER the second bead goes on. There is a tool for that...forgot where the link is...threads in like a valve core, but has a long wire attached... | ||
| Jomartijr |
A tip on tire bead area cleanup of the wheel- We found citrus based cleaners ( I use something named De-Solv-it)to be excellent for removing the rubber crud that accumulates there from the old tire. Cleanup of that makes for a much better tire bead to wheel seal. | ||
| Discochris |
I agree with Ulydude. I've been getting all my tires done at Midwest Cycle Supply on Nicollet since I started riding ten years ago. Decent prices and nice guys there. As for the tube in the tubeless tire, that seems really bizarre. I had it done once on a car in a real emergency situation (hairline crack in a rim in a really remote area and I HAD to get the 200 miles home that day), but I would not recommend it. | ||
| Dmmblaze |
Take it easy on my neighbor guys, he's 70 and has more wisdom then stunningly stupid in him. He has done it for over 50 years and I guess some old habits die hard even in the face of new technology. I thought the Hitching Post was a bit high after reading some threads on here and so I called around. Brought my rear tire in to Tousley Motorsports in White bear lake. Less then 35 Bucks total to swap out the rubber. Midwest Cycle Supply is a lot closer though. Thanks for the tip. Getting the tire off was a breeze. It was more work supporting the bike then anything. Checked the original orange seal bearings and they looked and turned good. I really like the handling of the rear Scorpion Trail. I'm debating swapping out the front to see how a set of em feels even though my snyc has some good life left.   |
