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Nsbuell
Posted on Tuesday, June 07, 2011 - 12:25 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Two of the bolts holding my side case rack to the bike managed to vibrate out during a weekend ride. The added strain on the remaining four bolts caused them two of them to break off clean in the mounts under the seat. I managed to get the bike stopped safely, strap the cases to the top and get home. Now my problem is removing the two bolts that are broken off flush inside the tail piece. I've tried a removal tool and drilling them out with no luck. Before I take it to the dealer and pay a $50 deductible to have it fixed under warranty does anyone have any ideas? The previous owner obviously didin't see the value in thread locker on a Buell...
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Natexlh1000
Posted on Tuesday, June 07, 2011 - 04:58 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

You paid for the extended warranty.
You should have the shop do it.
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2008xb12scg
Posted on Tuesday, June 07, 2011 - 11:31 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Sounds like it would be $50.00 well spent. You could have a Nut welded to the broken bolt to get it out, Never done it myself but others here have.
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Nsbuell
Posted on Wednesday, June 08, 2011 - 07:27 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

It seems like such a simple fix that I hate to pay anyone to do it. But I've proved I can't do it myself so now's the time to use the warranty. It will especially be worth the deductible if they end up just replacing the whole piece with the grab handles that the bolts thread into. The best part is that I didn't even pay for the extended warranty...it got transferred to me when I bought the bike.

(Message edited by nsbuell on June 08, 2011)
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Hughlysses
Posted on Wednesday, June 08, 2011 - 07:46 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

BTW- I don't believe the official installation instructions for the racks call for the use of threadlocker (I may be wrong). I do know that they use Belleville spring washers (they look like a "dimpled" flat washer) which should keep the bolts tight whether threadlocker is used or not. Now if he left those off, that explains everything.
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Court
Posted on Wednesday, June 08, 2011 - 09:25 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

If . . . you have the dealer do it. . . . be certain to carefully check everything when it is complete.

I was lucky.

When I had some work done on my bike I, as a matter of habit, did my normal "sit with a torque wrench" routine when I got home.

When you rotate the bracket down, during the process, it tightens one bolt (left side) and loosens another (right) without you even touching them.

UNLESS you do a thorough check . . this would never be caught.

I'm kinda anal.
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Dmmblaze
Posted on Wednesday, June 08, 2011 - 11:22 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

The instructions I followed called for thread locker. Per official installation sheet... "Loctite 271 (red) must be applied to all fasteners before
installation."

I would imagine the threadlocker would be more important then the Belleville washers. Since I know a lot of people have used regular washers with threadlocker and have had no issues with bolts coming loose.
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Natexlh1000
Posted on Wednesday, June 08, 2011 - 12:12 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Mine came with "natural threadlocker"
I never understood why but the mounting hardware was rusty when they installed it.

Perhaps they took it from a used bike?
Mine didn't break but it's one of those odd little questions in the back of my mind : )
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Mnviking
Posted on Wednesday, June 08, 2011 - 12:25 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Every time I remove my bags, I gently wiggle the racks to see if there's any play in them. With how much our bikes vibrate I'm always a little concerned about fasteners loosening up. I used red locktite when I installed my OEM bags back in March.
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Towpro
Posted on Wednesday, June 08, 2011 - 03:24 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Mine has a couple broken. Being is it did not have any warranty I just worked them out myself.

they broke because of vibration, not being bottomed out. Even with thread locker on them I was able to use a punch and work the remaining part out enough to get vice grips on them.
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