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Electraglider_1997
Posted on Saturday, June 04, 2011 - 12:40 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Steel wool off surface rust.

Coat entire muffler with a thin coating Permatex anti-seize. Ride bike for a half hour or so.

Let muffler cool down to warm and paint over the anti-seize with rattle can Rust Control Spray Enamel (Satin Black). It is ColorPlace brand that I got at WalMart for less than $4 for the can. Did both my bike and my boy's bike. It isn't high heat paint but hasn't flinched on either my muffler or my son's. Coating feels hard as a rock. Mine has worked fine for many months without peel or any rust at all. That Permatex anti-seize is the trick. Try an area under your muffler as a test area and see how it holds up for you.
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Etennuly
Posted on Saturday, June 04, 2011 - 01:04 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Well?............................................. .................................................. .......ya know we gotta see pictures!
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Ourdee
Posted on Monday, June 06, 2011 - 08:50 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

No pictures....it didn't happen.
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Electraglider_1997
Posted on Monday, June 06, 2011 - 09:22 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

My son went out and took pictures but only what it looks like after painting. As most of you guys know, once you coat something with that Permatex anti-seize it doesn't corrode. Paint over it on a muffler and it hardens up with the paint. Certainly has on my ULY's muffler and my son's also. Here's some photos but disregard the date because as you can see it shows 2004 before ULY was born. The plastic muffler shroud hides the anti-seize/paint that actually goes up the pipe to the point that it becomes two separate pipes. Even that hasn't burnt off and like I wrote earlier, it is just cheap black enamel, not BBQ paint. Maybe BBQ paint is crap. Remember, this muffler was not removed, just anti-seize coated in place and painted in place. If you were to remove the muffler and take great pains in getting a perfectly smooth coating of anti-seize and then paint it, it would look much more professionally done.









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Electraglider_1997
Posted on Monday, June 06, 2011 - 09:25 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

That last picture is just my son getting giddy being in the presence of his ULY.
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Trevd
Posted on Monday, June 06, 2011 - 09:28 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

That looks much better than I had imagined it.
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Electraglider_1997
Posted on Monday, June 06, 2011 - 09:36 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Even the tail pipe was coated and painted. Stuff is hard as a rock once it dries.
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Tankhead
Posted on Tuesday, June 07, 2011 - 08:01 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I googled the Permatex anti-seize and there are quite a few products. Is it the lubricant in an 8 oz bottle with a brush? tanks
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Electraglider_1997
Posted on Tuesday, June 07, 2011 - 10:59 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Tank,
It is the 8 oz bottle of this http://www.permatex.com/products/Automotive/lubric ants/specialty_lubricants/Permatex_Anti-Seize_Lubr icant_a.htm
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Luftkoph
Posted on Tuesday, June 07, 2011 - 05:48 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

something I tried this time,will have to see how it works,is to put the muffler in front of a propane salamander and get it hot real hot then start painting with high temp paint be careful of the flash ups of the paint when you get to much paint vapor and the flame ignites it.I think it did put a nice finish on we'll see how it lasts
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Electraglider_1997
Posted on Wednesday, June 08, 2011 - 10:08 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Tankhead,
If you decide to coat and paint your muffler like I've done then use a throwaway wash rag to apply the anti-seize instead of the brush. Much faster and you can lay I nice thin layer with the cloth. Apply it like you would spit shine a pair of boots minus the spit of course.

Luftkoph,
I think paint by itself never lasts simply because it isn't meant for such a tough corrosive environment. I've copied this next bit straight from the Permatex website:

Permatex® Anti-Seize Lubricant
A highly refined blend of aluminum, copper and graphite lubricants. Use during assembly to prevent galling, corrosion and seizing and to assure easier disassembly. Temperature range: -60°F to 1600°F (-51°Cto 871°C). Salt, corrosion and moisture resistant – ideal for marine use. Non-aerosol version meets Mil Spec #907E. Aerosol - Level 3*

My thinking is that the anti-seize keeps the muffler from rusting underneath the paint so they both work in tandem to keep the muffler in good shape.

(Message edited by electraglider_1997 on June 08, 2011)
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Electraglider_1997
Posted on Wednesday, June 08, 2011 - 10:26 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I see there is an aerosol can of that anti-seize. That might make things way easier. Spray that stuff on, then spray paint over it. Wear a mask.
http://www.all-spec.com/products/81464.html
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Dmmblaze
Posted on Wednesday, June 08, 2011 - 10:52 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I might have to try something like this... I am getting tired of periodically coating the muffler with peanut oil even though it does smell really good for awhile after. For the most part it has kept my muffler rust free. But it's a pain and it makes me want to eat popcorn while riding.

Thanks for sharing EG
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Hooper
Posted on Wednesday, June 08, 2011 - 12:34 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)


lurk


(Message edited by Hooper on June 08, 2011)
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Blake
Posted on Wednesday, June 08, 2011 - 06:15 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Great thread. Learned a bunch of interesting stuff.

Maybe before the permatex treatment, add a treatment of rust killer or just good old naval jelly to be sure all the corrosion is disappeared.
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Electraglider_1997
Posted on Sunday, July 17, 2011 - 03:35 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Anybody give this idea a try yet? Seems to really be holding up on our bikes and makes sense if you think about it.
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