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     Df3112 |
Put my Shinko's on a few weeks back (while in Oshkosh ) Like the other comments, the really do hunt around on the straights. Otherwise feel good. What are you (who have them) running for pressure? Thanks D- (Message edited by DF3112 on May 04, 2011) (Message edited by DF3112 on May 04, 2011) | ||
| Discochris |
I'm actually planning on getting a set put on this coming Saturday. Looking forward to following this... | ||
| Buellhusker |
I have run both the 180-55/17 and the 190-50/17 and they both hunt around. Two rears and one front and never again. Going back to some stable Tomahawk tires, same price but are stable and better milage. | ||
| Df3112 |
would have have some info on the Tomahawk tires? Thanks | ||
| Rwven |
I found that running 2 psi over the sticker on the bike prevented some of that wandering. The fronts will tend to cup a bit if you don't run them a tad hard too. | ||
| Conchop |
I just found the Tomahawks - How do you like them? How are they in the wet stuff? Squirrelly? Good Ride??? I've been running pr2's and they are great. Great $$$$$$$, too! The way my bike goes through tires, Maybe something cheaper is called for. As long as they hold air>>>LOL | ||
| 7873jake |
Are you running the T1 or T3 series on the Tomahawks? | ||
| Buellhusker |
I have always ran the T3 Black Sport Compound but I have a new T1 Black Sport Compound that I am going to mount up when this Shinko Raven is worn out. The Desser Tech guy told me that the T1 design has a little thicker rubber on it so it should give a little better life. As for performance I have run them in the hills & curves of Arkansas in the rain and we were pushing pretty hard and did not have any problems. I have the T3 front & rear mounted on my 98S1WL, I have the T3 rear mounted on my 1125CR and it is catching hell since I installed the Erik Buell Racing ECM last month. And I am running the Shinko Ravens front & rear on the Uly and per my past experience they wont last long. | ||
| Tankhead |
What is this hunting that you speak. I just had a set put on my Uly though I have yet to pick the bike back up yet, and I did a considerable amount of research before purchasing the Ravens. I have not read one report about "hunting." The only negative that i found is that they have a different turn in than OEM and they take more time to warm up. This is new to me. | ||
| Blasterd |
Tank, they wander like crazy on my Uly. Revisiting the suspension does make it a little better but I'm not crazy about the Ravens, 6000 and my rear is at the wearbars. I read several tire threads that stated the same thing about them as I found. | ||
| Tankhead |
Man, I checked this site, st-n.com, adv, and a few google searches before I bought and all of them said for the most part that they would definitely buy again and well worth the lower cost. We shall see. I usually run tires a little high on pressure all the time. Hopefully that will keep them in check. tanks | ||
| Rwven |
Tankhead, Ulys "hunt" a bit anyway don't they. I think they'd rather be turning than going straight. I liked the Ravens when I used them. The slightly slower turn in was actually an advantage as far as I was concerned. I never cornered harder on any tires on my Uly than I did with the Ravens in part because I didn't fell like I had to pick it back up because I had turned in too aggressively I'm running a set of Pilot Road 2's now. I bought them to see if they lived up to all the hype. They are a fine tire, but I can't say they are any better for the way I ride than the Ravens were. I think you'll be pleased with your purchase. I'll probably try Shinko's new Sport Touring tire, the 011 Verge, next tire change. | ||
| Buellhusker |
Rwven My 09 Uly has been stable as a rock since new with the origional Sync's and with the Tomahawk tires. The hunting started when I mounted the Raven's, but I never felt out of control just uneasy at first, now I am used to it but I don't like the feel. On gravel and dirt roads I do not notice any hunting at all. Now I must say the Ravens are fine in the curves only that they turn in slow where as with the origional Sync and Tomahawk tires the bike just falls into a corner with very little effort, and you will notice this if you are riding in an area where you have to transistion back and forth from a left to right in rapid seccesion, you have to work at it more with the Ravens. FWIW I ride down to Arkansas two or three times a year sometimes with a group of Triumph Tiger riders and they like to let's say push it. | ||
| Growl |
I have been very pleased with the Ravens on my Uly... No hunting. The original Dunlops did, but the Ravens track nicely... | ||
| Whisperstealth |
Got the 009's on. They do better with higher pressure. The tire says 42psi, and I have found they work best for me when I have 40 or more. I'm running 42psi right now. Weigh 250 + gear. I have also found they are not very good when they are cold, and it's cold out. Seem to stick much better once they warm up. Riders using them aired up well, have reported good mileage out of them. Many have said best bang for the buck which is why I bought them, and hope that rings true. | ||
| Fordrox |
I have been contemplating the ravens also, was ready to pull the trigger until i saw this post. i did research also and i have only read the same info as Tankhead. I need new rubber before HC. I love the synch's but i was looking to save a few dollars, but going cheap is not worth it if they are inferior tires. | ||
| Andymnelson |
If your Uly is "wandering" or "hunting"....something is amiss. Either your tires are crap or your suspension not set up properly or something else is wrong. My goes straight as an arrow when I want it to! (Michelin PRs) Sure it loves to turn, but it never fails me in the straight away either... | ||
| Whisperstealth |
I'm statisfied so far. 170 to my door is a good deal for what they do. I'm going on a 700 miles run next weekend, and will report my findings. | ||
| Tankhead |
tanks whisperstealth | ||
| Rwven |
I think "hunt" is the wrong word. The Uly is quite responsive to any input, whether it be through the handlebars by a rider who holds on too tightly or from an imperfection in the road transmitted through a center groove in the front tire such as the 009 Raven front. Adding a few PSI to the factory recommendations reduces the effect of that center groove a bit. It's not just the Uly that does this. The Dunlops I ran on my previous bike, a Honda PC800, exhibited the same characteristic due to the front tires center groove even with the PC800's relaxed front end geometry. That the Uly is effected by it a bit more is understandable. | ||
| Pontlee77 |
Any one has used Avon tyres? | ||
| Shagg1970 |
any one a almost new pair of shinko oo9s about 1500 miles on them I will be replacing them next weekend. may be good for some but i never felt fully confident in them. they are the stock ully size and in excellent shape. any offers? | ||
| Tankhead |
Well I picked up the bike yesterday. First of all the Uly felt so strange due to the fact that I had just returned from Spain and had been riding a very heavy BMW 1200GS for seven days. But boy I forgot how scalpel sharp the handling of my bike is compared to the BMW1200 GS. That thing is a pig, great bike for what it is but a pig for sure. But the ULY did wander more on it's own with these new tires. And the turn in is going to take me awhile. I do agree that it is the center stripe. I am sue it will just take me a few rides to get used to it. | ||
| Andymnelson |
I kind of scratch my head at statements like "I'll get used to it". I know you didn't know this before you bought the tires....but would anyone want to buy a second set, and have a characteristic that they have to put up with?? They are not THAT cheap of a tire. In fact, if folks are getting 6000 miles out of a $179 set of tires, and the Pilot Roads usually get upwards of 10000 miles for $225....that actually makes the Shinkos about 30% MORE money. Let's say what it is: not a great tire for the Uly. | ||
| Rwven |
This folk got 9000 miles out of his Shinko's, and they weren't totally worn out when I took them off. I had to plug the front, the rear was getting close so I went with the PR2's because my mechanic got me a good deal on them and I wanted to see if they were "all that". | ||
| Andymnelson |
Makes sense. Most reports I had heard have been closer to 6000. I still think it needs to be called what it is. DF3122 is a great example: if he had known that these tires hunt, he could have saved himself the money. Now he has to put up with a really unfortunate characteristic of the tire for as much as 9000 miles. Bummer for him. | ||
| Uly_man |
I do not know about Shinkos etc but Road Pilot 2s are VERY, VERY good on a Uly and a perfect match for the bike. My sports bike rubber, in the past, would last 5k max. My Uly handles better than any of them, I get 8k+ out of them and without any profile change. The Uly needs good rubber to handle right. I thought all the talk about the PR2s was just hype but I was wrong. The combination of the Ulys frame, suspension and PR2 tyre feedback, on the road, is just superb. | ||
| Ft_bstrd |
I'm on my second set of Ravens and really like them. I have them mounted on an M2. I believe much of the "hunting" is due to the long legs of the Uly suspension. I didn't care for the profile of any Pirelli for the same reason. The D616 wasn't a bad tire. It was just bad for the ULY. I've used Avon and PR2s as well as Pirellis on the Uly. It was a matter of taste, but any profile that is "twitchy" is point to be a poor fit for the Uly. | ||
| Tankhead |
I kind of scratch my head at you scratching your head.  Did you read the first part of my post. I drove the Uly about 75 miles after being on a GS for 7 days in Spain. The bike was about 200 lbs lighter without gear, panniers, pillion etc. The Uly felt razor sharp but the wandering is better described as a feeling of less friction on the road then the syncs. That is not to say that there IS less friction (I don't know) but they FEEL different than the Syncs. Sort of like the road attacks by Conti. They felt quicker in response from the bars. I guess that is a better way to describe the "wandering". The reviews that I found all indicated 8000 to 10000 miles on the rear. We shall see. (Message edited by tankhead on May 10, 2011) | ||
| Ft_bstrd |
I got about 4500 miles out of my rear. I have never gotten more than 4200 miles out of ANY tire. I was satisfied about the mileage. I also liked the profile. You might also try the new 011 Verge tires from Shinko. They are the 009 replacements, newer materials, newer design. |
