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Jasonb
Posted on Sunday, January 09, 2011 - 09:41 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I'm wondering, do I need the beak? I will most likely never be off road, so I rally need it? Does it help with road debris? Is it just required to be 'full fendered'?

I've search for awhile and haven't found any examples, so if there are any, can you post comments?

Thanks
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Ratbuell
Posted on Sunday, January 09, 2011 - 09:57 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Run through rain at about..say...15 mph.

You can *watch* the roostertail of water coming off that front tire.

It coats the headlights pretty successfully (I know this because I do a lot of mud and dirt on mine). And just above and behind the headlights is...well...YOU.

But, it's your call. Don't like the beak? Put a regular XB front fender on, like an XT has. And send me yours, I can always stockpile spares ; )
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Itileman
Posted on Sunday, January 09, 2011 - 11:02 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I added a beak to my XT and it works great with my dirt modded front stock XB fender.
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Whisperstealth
Posted on Monday, January 10, 2011 - 12:18 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I want to put a beak on my XT. Besides, I think they look cool.
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Jasonb
Posted on Monday, January 10, 2011 - 07:30 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Thanks for the input. I don't think I'll get rid of it, but I may try a ride without this summer.
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Datsaxman
Posted on Monday, January 10, 2011 - 12:12 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I *hate* the dorky beak. Enough so I bought an XB12XT this week and am selling the XB12X. Well, the XT is a 2009 and runs a bunch better also, but...

Took the beak off and discovered something. The center screw that holds the beak on also aims the headlights on the X. Yes, there is a bracket for that on the XT. If you want to take the beak off, get the XT bracket!

Also get some kind of front fender. Ratbuell is right. DAMHIK.
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Natexlh1000
Posted on Monday, January 10, 2011 - 12:32 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I came in here to say what Saxman just said.
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Terrafirma
Posted on Monday, January 10, 2011 - 03:11 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Last July, I wrecked and my "Beak" was damaged. I ordered a new one from High Country HD and it over 90 days to get a replacement. The guys at High Country were great, but their hands were tied. So after removing the Beak I found that the beak actually supports the lights. I decided to chop the beak (taking 2/3rd of the fender off). I found that riding in wet conditions sometimes was a challenge. I rode from Monarch Pass to Denver in a rainstorm and found that even when riding in pockets of non-rain, my face shield would be coated with the grime from the wet road surface, I fact, I was looking forward to the rain. The lack of a beak will also allow road debris to be kicked up. On that trip, during the dry spell, my face shield was pocked with stones flying up and the speed of the bike would catch up with the debris trajectory.
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Tootal
Posted on Monday, January 10, 2011 - 05:58 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I don't have a clue what you're talking about!!



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Terrafirma
Posted on Monday, January 10, 2011 - 06:52 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I like that Paint job, that speckled mud color really extenuates the Black!!! Great photo!! Must have been one muddy ride.
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Paralegalpete
Posted on Monday, January 10, 2011 - 07:25 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I'm a beak guy



not a fan of the beakless look

I'ts a long winter already
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Datsaxman
Posted on Monday, January 10, 2011 - 11:35 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Right, guys...it's ugly AND it doesn't keep the stuff off you and the bike.

Terrafirma, I didn't say take the beak off and leave it, I said

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Also get some kind of front fender.
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I good front fender, a little closer to the tyre, should keep a lot of the road spray off the bike and the rider.

Now we are up to $0.04
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Terrafirma
Posted on Tuesday, January 11, 2011 - 12:47 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Datsawman, so true, I just put my $0.02 in, stating that I noticed much more debris hitting me in the face as opposed to when I had a short beak.. A lower fender would protect the rider a little more. I was checking out the Yamaha Super Tenere at a local shop and I couldn't get past the look, Without some from of protrusion under the lights doesn't look right to me.
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Terrafirma
Posted on Tuesday, January 11, 2011 - 12:50 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

My last post, should read, much less debris hitting me, instead of much more...I just finished watching the game...
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Whisperstealth
Posted on Tuesday, January 11, 2011 - 02:26 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

The beak is not ugly. It's a beauty mark.
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Lastcyclone
Posted on Tuesday, January 11, 2011 - 08:28 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

What is the part number for that bracket to hold the light assembly in place if the beak is removed?
Anybody?
Thanks.
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Sirvait
Posted on Tuesday, January 11, 2011 - 08:54 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

http://www.americansportbike.com/shoponline/ccp0-p rodshow/17316.html
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Itileman
Posted on Tuesday, January 11, 2011 - 09:03 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Dirt modded front fender with beak:

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Lastcyclone
Posted on Tuesday, January 11, 2011 - 09:41 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Thank you Sirvait.
Would you happen to know the Buell part no.?
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Al_lighton
Posted on Tuesday, January 11, 2011 - 10:20 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I'm not a huge fan of the beak, though for riding through serious muck, I suppose it's the best option. But I put a stock XB fender on my Uly first and thought it looked too small, and it didn't properly protect the fork tubes. So I grafted an XB fender to an S2 fender and this is the result:

http://www.americansportbike.com/shoponline/ccp0-p rodshow/9405.html

It's what I run on my Uly. But I suppose I'd re-mount the beak if I was planning doing the road of bones or something...

Al
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Ratbuell
Posted on Tuesday, January 11, 2011 - 11:15 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

It's a shame that CF is so purty...I'd feel guilty putting it on my Uly, with its layer of perma-muck ; )
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Whisperstealth
Posted on Wednesday, January 12, 2011 - 12:16 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

perma-muck and perma-grin are standard issue on the Uly. If I wasn't perma-broke I'd be perma-farkling : )
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Xbimmer
Posted on Thursday, January 13, 2011 - 11:38 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

It's a shame that CF is so purty...

Available in fiberglass too, one of these days I'll be going that route.
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