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Mikef5000
Posted on Monday, November 22, 2010 - 12:20 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Garage door openers use 12 volt batteries! Whodathunkit? I'm taking my chances that the 14 volts our charging system puts out wont cause it to catch fire!

New garage door opener:

IMG_0002 by Mikef5000, on Flickr

With lots of counter space

IMG_0001 by Mikef5000, on Flickr

All of the electrical tools

IMG_0003 by Mikef5000, on Flickr

Disassembled (1 screw)

IMG_0004 by Mikef5000, on Flickr

Solder one wire to the base of each battery terminal

IMG_0005 by Mikef5000, on Flickr

IMG_0006 by Mikef5000, on Flickr

And solder one wire to each side of the switch

IMG_0007 by Mikef5000, on Flickr

Hot glue over the wires for durability

IMG_0008 by Mikef5000, on Flickr

Heat wrap the wires together, and drill a hole into the base (add a grommet)

IMG_0009 by Mikef5000, on Flickr

Press circuit board back into base

IMG_0010 by Mikef5000, on Flickr

And the top screws back on

IMG_0011 by Mikef5000, on Flickr

IMG_0012 by Mikef5000, on Flickr

Power wires run to a fused positive line and a ground, and the two switch wires run to an auxiliary mounted switch. Hide the opener out of sight and away from the elements (mine went beneath the flyscreen, with some padding around it to keep it from vibrating and bouncing around). The required switch is a standard two wire momentary push button type that must be of the normally open (N.O.) variety. I bought mine from radio shack for $3.


IMG_0013 by Mikef5000, on Flickr


BAM! Less than $15 and an hour or two. Why I didn't do this years ago I'm not sure.
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Whisperstealth
Posted on Monday, November 22, 2010 - 12:34 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Mike, you really are the man. What a great idea!

Your bike is truly a wonder machine. You could host a show called Farklemania. Or write DIY book.

Although what you really need to do is harden everything. Never know when that EMP will hit ; )
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Wolfridgerider
Posted on Monday, November 22, 2010 - 08:32 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)



this one looks better....


nice job Mike
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Reepicheep
Posted on Monday, November 22, 2010 - 08:33 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

It'd be easy enough to add a 12v regulator (or any other V regulator depending on what your opener wants). It's straightforward, but pickign the right one can have some subtle dragons... look for an LDO (low drop out) regulator from Newark or somewhere.
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Dr_greg
Posted on Monday, November 22, 2010 - 10:09 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I've had my garage door opener hard-wired on the '06 Uly for several years. Very handy.

--Doc
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Squidbuzz
Posted on Monday, November 22, 2010 - 10:30 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

What about the hardware that is mounted to the garage and is activated by a double or triple high beam flash?
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Union_man
Posted on Monday, November 22, 2010 - 11:44 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I have mine garage door opener hooked up to the "Flash to Pass" switch through a double tap "Auto Switch". I also have my Auxiliary Lights hooked to the "Flash to Pass" with a single tap "Auto Switch". One long press (about 1 second) and the Aux lights go on, two quick taps and the garage door opens!!!

Works great!!! No extra buttons to clutter the dash, it still looks stock.

BTW...my friends thought that my headlights were opening the garage door! It was pretty funny watching them flashing their lights at my door!!!
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Electraglider_1997
Posted on Monday, November 22, 2010 - 01:41 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zBLh7z1iBYo
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Hangetsu
Posted on Monday, November 22, 2010 - 01:43 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

That is cool. Unfortunately, mine uses a 9 volt transistor battery.
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Union_man
Posted on Monday, November 22, 2010 - 02:02 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I don't know which brand of garage door opener you have but generally they are not very sensitive to battery voltage. The receivers are super-regenerative with a receive bandwidth of about 1.5 MHz. A little frequency shift won't hurt you and I think the main effect of varying voltage would be a variation in range. I suspect that the components would survive operation on 12 V instead of nine.

Mine has worked fine for 2+ years.
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Union_man
Posted on Monday, November 22, 2010 - 02:17 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I just re-read my post. I'm a nerd.
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Ourdee
Posted on Monday, November 22, 2010 - 03:24 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Thanks nerd, I broke my push button that opens the door from my bike. You reminded me I need to fix it. I am thinking about just wiring the flash to pass to supply power to where the battery is, and wiring the push button in the on position.
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Union_man
Posted on Monday, November 22, 2010 - 03:39 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Here is an "Autoswitch" that is made for garage door openers.
http://autoswitch.com/2006/models/as5pg2/as5pg2_in dex.shtml#video
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2008xb12scg
Posted on Monday, November 22, 2010 - 04:27 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I have the "flaSH TO PASS" and it works good, though much more than $15, wish I would have saw this first..
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Tootal
Posted on Monday, November 22, 2010 - 07:54 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

My flash to pass button now operates the trip meter/clock. The garage opener is in the handlebar bag!
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Ronmold
Posted on Monday, November 22, 2010 - 08:15 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Hangetsu, put in a 9v lithium & wire the button contacts to a new dash switch or flash-to-pass button . A lithium in a garage opener should last 10 yrs! Ourdee, I did mine your way, just 2 wires needed but I used a switch where Mikef put his.
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Twobuells
Posted on Monday, November 22, 2010 - 09:32 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Taidan used to make this real cool rolling code door opener.
I bought one for my first Uly in 2006. When I traded the 06 Uly on my 2008 1125r I removed the opener and tried to install it on my 1125r. I forgot how to program it and it sat on my bench for a while. than I bought the 2009 Uly and found some instructions to program it. Its on my Uly now and what really cool about it the unit is hooked to my high beam. I just hit the high beam about a block from my house and the door is open. It also shuts off in 30 seconds so I can run the high beams for a long time without hurting the device. The only problem is that if I leave for work when its dark I have to get a mile from home before hitting the high beam so I don't come home from work with a door that has been open all day.

Taidan closed many years ago, if you do a search on motorcycle garage openers there are many plans out there for home made openers.
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Griffmeister
Posted on Monday, November 22, 2010 - 10:48 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Whoa everyone, are your batteries wearing out that fast? I've had my remote clipped on the side of the handguard for two years and it hasn't stopped yet. I'm sure when it does quit I can find another battery for less than $5.
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Twobuells
Posted on Tuesday, November 23, 2010 - 10:25 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

" are your batteries wearing out that fast?"

no but its too cool to just flash your high beam and the door opens
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Panhead_dan
Posted on Wednesday, November 24, 2010 - 08:12 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I think any of my bikes would shake one to bits in no time if it was on the bike. I've always wanted one actually on the bike and have thought about things like packing the board with silicone or something but the jacket pocket seems to keep working for me. There was a thread somewhere where they took the case off the garage door opener, much like that 12v air compressor idea. Mounted it behind a flyscreen or inside a headlight bucket or something.
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Mikef5000
Posted on Thursday, November 25, 2010 - 10:21 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I don't know why you'd need to take the case off. I've got three HID ballasts, a stebel air horn, two relays, and some other crap under my flyscreen, and there was still plenty of room for this opener. I'd much rather leave the case on for protection. Also, I wrapped it in foam before sticking it in it's place to stop any rough vibrations or bouncing.
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Panhead_dan
Posted on Thursday, November 25, 2010 - 10:34 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

That, my friend, is a lot of stuff in a small space! You must be a much better organizer than me.
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Uly_dude
Posted on Monday, November 29, 2010 - 12:10 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Hey Tootal, would you mind explaining how you got your trip meter/clock to toggle using the flash-to-pass switch? Do your headlights still flash when you use the switch? Or is it now only used for the clock/meter? Thanks.
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Tootal
Posted on Monday, November 29, 2010 - 08:22 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Uly dude, the switch only works the toggle now. You have to cut the wire from the switch and solder onto a new wire. Here is a link to the original thread I did. There are some pictures and what I found. There is also a lot of inside humor since we had just got back from Buelltoberfest III!

http://www.badweatherbikers.com/buell/messages/142 838/503727.html?1255600807

http://www.badweatherbikers.com/buell/messages/142 838/503155.html
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Ourdee
Posted on Monday, November 29, 2010 - 09:28 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Well I took the easy way out and just fixed my broken switch. Still running it on it's own battery. This way I don't have to turn the ignition on to use the opener.
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Midnightrider
Posted on Tuesday, November 30, 2010 - 09:57 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

very nice work i just put a remote in my handlebar bag though
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Uly_dude
Posted on Tuesday, November 30, 2010 - 12:01 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Thanks Tootal! This is exactly what I needed for both my farkle-on-the-cluster projects this winter. I have that same voltmeter LED I want to install on my cluster to. You guys are a wealth of information! Greg
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Xbimmer
Posted on Friday, December 03, 2010 - 01:06 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Any risk of frying the electronics of the opener? Inspired by this thread I just put my opener under the flyscreen with only the battery power. It's one of those key fob sized Liftmasters and it wasn't cheap, so I don't want to burn it up. With the battery it'll now open my garage door from two houses away, something it could never do from my jacket pocket.
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Mikef5000
Posted on Saturday, December 04, 2010 - 06:46 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

If you pulled a 12 volt battery out then hardwired it, you really shouldn't hurt anything, although in the end, you're running close to 14 volts into it, so anything's possible.

Mine was only $12 so it was worth the risk to me.

My best guess is that you'll be perfectly fine.
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