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Uly_dude
Posted on Wednesday, November 03, 2010 - 10:20 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

hey all you engineering types, check out the new idea at www.ecomotors.com, click on the videos on the right. This thing has some merit it looks like to. Why is it all these guys have a german accent??
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Johnboy777
Posted on Wednesday, November 03, 2010 - 11:26 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Since it's a two-stroke, am I correct in assuming it's fuel and oil injected.

I'm not clear on the oil delivery system.

Also interesting in this arrangement, is engine speed is doubled, because the each of the pistons, travel half as far.

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Electraglider_1997
Posted on Wednesday, November 03, 2010 - 11:40 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Looks interesting and I really like when the guy claims 100 mpg. That would be a real nice motorcycle engine for BMW since it looks like one.
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Towpro
Posted on Wednesday, November 03, 2010 - 01:47 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

neat idea.

if you watch the video and get to 1.40, stop it and see the design. the top (LS) piston opens and closes the air intake port, I do not see transfer ports to below the piston. This would allow crankcase oil lubrication of bearings below piston which makes it that much closer to meeting emission standards.

If you then add direct injection, intake and exhaust port timing by ECM controlled servos that work like current power valves, this could be a clean running engine.

better yet, couple this to a alternator which charges batteries that run an electric motor that powers the car, you can run this at a constant speed for even cleaner running.

But one thing he said was "double the engine speed". What about the transition speeds when the pistons change directions? that is a lot of acceleration 2 times per stroke.

thanks for sharing this.
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Desmo900
Posted on Wednesday, November 03, 2010 - 08:45 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

nothing new here, the first one was in 1883
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Six-stroke_engine
But it is very cool.
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Sharkguy
Posted on Thursday, November 04, 2010 - 06:00 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

It seems like I remember a similar design that was being used for the military (tanks?).
It does seem like it would easily lend itself to diesel application.
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Natexlh1000
Posted on Friday, November 05, 2010 - 06:54 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Double the speed? With all of that mass flopping about?

Have they actually made one yet?

The design reminds me of the Fairbanks-Morse "Trainmaster" engines:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/FM_H-24-66


http://www.psrm.org/roster/diesel/fm/index.html

It's a bit larger though : )
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Uly_dude
Posted on Friday, November 05, 2010 - 08:58 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I'm guessing here, but I would think with this configuration the pistons could be smaller, with less distance to travel, you could have some good power in a small(yet longish)power plant. And we all know the benefits of big power in small packages with gasoline. Also, I like the idea of that clutch on the output shaft. He was suggesting that as more power is needed, you just activate the clutch and add another set of pistons. Heck you could have a whole line of these little things pumpin away in seconds. Now lets see someone put these ideas to some practical use - and hurry! I'm not getting any younger.
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