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Hunn
Posted on Thursday, September 02, 2010 - 07:32 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Finally!
http://www.yamaha-motor.com/sport/products/modelho me/651/0/home.aspx
Yamaha is going to bring the 1200 Super Tenere to the US dealers in 2012. A good alternative to whats available in the large displacement ADV-Touring class. I'd like mine in red and white, please!
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Swampy
Posted on Thursday, September 02, 2010 - 07:53 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

for that kind of cash you could buy a Uly

Sorry, I am a naysayer, it is just another motorcycle, where is the innovation?
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Flwindsurf
Posted on Thursday, September 02, 2010 - 08:13 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I'll keep my American built, air-cooled, 0-60 < 3 sec, 2 year, unlimited mileage warranty, 475 pound, 2009 Uly XT.
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Itileman
Posted on Thursday, September 02, 2010 - 08:28 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Be interesting to see if they put a dent in BMW's sales. At least I have a really good Yamaha dealer here if I ever want one.
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Ulykan
Posted on Thursday, September 02, 2010 - 09:02 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Not to rain on your parade, Hunn, but I read a recent review of the bike and the reviewer was less than impressed. It was rather plain vanilla and not exciting. The Beemer completely outclassed it in every category.
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Florida_lime
Posted on Thursday, September 02, 2010 - 09:44 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I'd like mine in red and white, please!

Black and blue are your 2 color choices.
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Hunn
Posted on Thursday, September 02, 2010 - 10:00 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Touchy, touchy everybody! I did not say I'm going to sell my Uly to buy a 1200 Super Tenere. I love my Uly to death, going to hang on to it till there are no more parts to be had. But I would like a bike thats just (-I almost said " a tad more reliable"-, that really would have p....d some people off here) needs a little less preventative maintenance, get on it and go and not to worry.
I'm glad, Flwindsurf, you have a 2 year, unlimited mileage warranty, you are going to need it.
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Whisperstealth
Posted on Thursday, September 02, 2010 - 10:20 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

0-60 < 3 seconds??

How are you getting that time? Froggy couldn't do it with a race ecm.

Thread I started on the topic:
http://www.badweatherbikers.com/buell/messages/142 838/560782.html
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Swampy
Posted on Thursday, September 02, 2010 - 10:41 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Hunn, it's not touchy touchy, it's just that it is just another bike, there is no innovation to it. Might as well be a 80's XL500 or somthing like that, it is the same bike as the last 40 years of bikes, single or double down tube frame, parallel twin, big single, fuel sitting up on top of the engine, WHY are the other manufactures not using ZTL brakes? simpler, lighter, better?
It is the same as the rest, sure you might have fuel injection, sure it might spin to 14,000 RPM, sure it might have bags and a two up seat, but it is the "same-o-same-o"
When something really "New" comes out wake me up, but everything else right now is just a re-exercizing of 1970 in new plastic, maybe a little different frame geometry to help handle the higher speeds.

I am really interested in what is in the works with Erik Buell, what we see now are actually designs from 30 years ago, it just took 20 years for the parts manufacturers to come up with the process to build the designs.
Look to the future, not to the past, the future is what is not available today.

Don't get me wrong, it is a nice bike, but so is the KTM 990, it looks JUST LIKE the KTM, that looks just like the Transalp.
You say potato, I say potato, it is the same.
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Itileman
Posted on Thursday, September 02, 2010 - 11:02 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Maybe they'll have an option for gills.
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Froggy
Posted on Thursday, September 02, 2010 - 11:45 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)


quote:

How are you getting that time? Froggy couldn't do it with a race ecm.




I'm not a pro rider. I am sure someone that had practice or knew what they were doing could easily clear the 4 second mark. 3 seconds is tough even on an 1125R.

(I said race computer in that other post, not race ecm. Huge difference : ) )
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Blk_uly
Posted on Thursday, September 02, 2010 - 11:46 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Uhh OOhh It comes in black!
"Oh honey, you know that new harley I just got well......"
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Whisperstealth
Posted on Friday, September 03, 2010 - 01:23 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Froggy, Got ya. Thanks : )
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Mnrider
Posted on Friday, September 03, 2010 - 11:19 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

We have a good Yamaha dealer here in my hometown so maybe in a few years I'll be looking for something to replace the Uly.
But WTH no under exhaust and big old gas tank way up high.Just like my old 88 KLR and I don't care for the saddle bags.
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Union_man
Posted on Friday, September 03, 2010 - 12:26 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

"Just like my old 88 KLR" or any other jap bike.

Amen Mnrider!
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Ghostrider
Posted on Friday, September 03, 2010 - 12:58 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I don't care for the saddle bags

That's a problem that comes up on most of these bikes. The BMW's have that issue, too. By sticking that pipe out one or both sides of the tail, they reduce the capacity of the panniers and force them to be awkward sizes and shapes.

Granted, I'm not 100% in love with the clamshells on my XT, but they're equally sized. Maybe I just like symmetry.
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Mnrider
Posted on Friday, September 03, 2010 - 02:07 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

At least it's "only" $13,900 and not $19,999 like the Multi.
150 rear tire?
Linked braking and ABS is a plus I guess.
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Conchop
Posted on Friday, September 03, 2010 - 04:31 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

The video on Yammy]s web page was excellent. All told, I'm quote sure this is an excellent bike. Too bad the Uly couldn't "evolve" into the contender to take on the adventure touring market.

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7873jake
Posted on Friday, September 03, 2010 - 04:36 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

A decade too late, Yamaha brings to the U.S. the bike that would have fulfilled my fantasy to be Stéphane Peterhansel.

At least Yam fed us a steady diet of Star cruisers to hold us over until they could get around to letting us taste the Super Tenere.
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Towpro
Posted on Friday, September 03, 2010 - 04:59 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I was just in the Yamaha dealer to pick up an inner tube.

They said the bike would be here in time for next riding season. I assumed they meant spring of 2011.

They accepted my buddies check as a down payment on one.
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Druelly
Posted on Friday, September 03, 2010 - 05:20 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

That video was a joke. Where is the excitement that (I'm guessing) they were looking for. Does nothing for me. Not sure I even like the looks of the bike. Throttle Control sounds a lot like Slow off the line! I like the torque of the Uly and I did not get the sense that this bike was going to put out the same type of numbers or seat of the pants feeling like you know you have a big ol kick ass engine underneath you. I'm with mnrider. Now if we could see something like conchop put together then we are on the right track!
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Eulysses
Posted on Friday, September 03, 2010 - 05:21 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Shaft drive. One think after riding Yami's for years on trail and snow...they make reliable stuff. My Uly will have to be long dead though...come on Erik!
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Druelly
Posted on Friday, September 03, 2010 - 08:51 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

As I was sitting here watching TV, waiting for Earl to show up, it dawned on me that I may have been a little harsh with my comments regarding this new bike. I would like to Apologize to anyone I may have offended. Keep in mind I have not read any of the posts after mind so I will do so know. Again my apologies.
Druelly
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Ghostrider
Posted on Saturday, September 04, 2010 - 02:39 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

So, Conchop, are you some sort of photoshop artist, or what?
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Bryn1203
Posted on Saturday, September 04, 2010 - 02:47 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

the Multistrada or Tiger 800 are higher of my list of dream bikes.

I have ridden the multi, its like a Uly with 150 bhp to play with.... very nice. What Erik would have done?

The Tiger 800 looks like being a pretty good adventure bike..... and its British


(Message edited by bryn1203 on September 04, 2010)
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Johnboy777
Posted on Saturday, September 04, 2010 - 05:02 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

"The Tiger 800 looks like being a pretty good adventure bike..... and its British "

Looks good

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Electraglider_1997
Posted on Sunday, September 05, 2010 - 10:43 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

How is 150rwhp good on the Multistrada but was too much on a 1125 ULY? I for one would have welcomed it but it was way too much for many of you here. Horse power is controlled with the right hand.
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Sirvait
Posted on Sunday, September 05, 2010 - 10:48 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Late to the debate but, I'm glad that the adventure segment(in the us)is getting another bike. I do think that it should of been on this side of the pond awhile ago to make the most impact on the market. When the sales numbers don't meet Yamaha Excec. expectations they'll say it's the wrong bike for the U.S. market when in reality it will be poor timing on their part.

(Message edited by sirvait on September 05, 2010)
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Tom_barnyard
Posted on Sunday, September 05, 2010 - 12:50 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Maybe HD will see another manufacturer jumping into the market and decide they need to a piece of it. Then they take a 1200 cc sportser motor and put it in an innovative chassis and sell that.

Oh wait.

Nevermind.
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Datsaxman
Posted on Sunday, September 05, 2010 - 06:44 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

+1 Barnyard...

Another bloated overweight expensive piece of high technology. I am more a fan of Colin Chapman's credo:

"Simplify and add lightness".
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Bluzm2
Posted on Monday, September 06, 2010 - 10:57 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I really dig Conshop's picture above.
Sad indeed....
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Midway15
Posted on Monday, September 06, 2010 - 01:06 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

They shot that Tenere video in Utah. Those mountain roads are 10 minutes from my home, and I ride that road around the lake (UT 189 / Deer Creek Reservoir) and through the tunnels for my daily commute. My Uly and I both love it!

If you are in the neighborhood, give me a shout and we can go reproduce the riding in the video.
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Invisible_monster
Posted on Monday, September 06, 2010 - 02:46 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I am glad to see the 1200 Super Ten coming to the USA. Strong sales of that may convince Yamaha and others to bring in more adventure style bikes.

I personally would have rather seen the XT660Z brought in but I understand why they are starting with the 1200.

Can't wait to hear some real world (US consumer) reviews of the new Yamaha when it finally arrives.
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Dynasport
Posted on Monday, September 06, 2010 - 11:23 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

The Yammy is all the rage over on Advrider. I'd have to ride one to know how I felt about it, but I think another bike on the market is always good. Competition motivates improvements. It costs more than I thought it would, but it will be a low volume bike for the U.S. market I think. Whether we here on Badweb like cruisers or not, they dominate sales. Sport tourers and adventure bikes just don't sell in big numbers here. Really, the GS has had very little competition. There is the KTM Adventure and the two V-Stroms, and to some degree the Uly and the former Multi which to me were much more street oriented. The Uly is gone, but now we have the new Multi (which still seems pretty street oriented) and the Super Tenere. I wonder if sales will justify all of them, or if some will go the way of the Uly.
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