| Author | Message | ||
     Ulykan |
Are the torque values for the rear axle correct in the service manual? I'm replacing my rear tire and want to use the proper torque value. Thanks. | ||
| Rwven |
Yes. Tighten to 25 ft.lb., back off 2 turns, tighten to 50 ft.lb. The 25 and 50 are the middle of the specified ranges. | ||
| Ulykan |
Thanks. BTW, I'm having a local shop do this and while they have the bike I've asked them to replace the belt but they estimate 2 hours labor. That sounds like way too much time. I thought it could be done in a half hour or so. So roughly how long to replace a belt if the wheel is already off? Thanks again. | ||
| Froggy |
30 seconds. | ||
| Ulykan |
I'm understanding then that if the wheel is off the old belt is simply slipped off and the new one put on. Correct? What about removing other parts, covers, etc.? | ||
| Etennuly |
It should take no more than twenty minutes with the rear wheel off. That is given that it would be the tech's first one. Make sure you make your service manual available to them if they do not have the actual Buell SM. If they are charging two hours it is a good chance they do not know what they are doing. Or they are including the tire change and balancing. The idler pulley does not need to come all of the way off for a new 'tighter than crap' belt. Loosen the nuts back to the end of the threads to allow for some extra slop to get the new belt started on. If the idler comes all of the way off it will be a bitch to get it started on the studs with a new belt. The main difficulty of installing a new belt is dealing with it being extremely tight. It needs to be on the front pulley first, over the idler, and on the rear pulley with the rear axle out to where the tapered part is swing arm hole. Then push the axle in and carefully start the threads that you had already lubed with anti-sieze. Then torque to 25 ft lb, back it off two full turns, and re-torque to 50 ft lbs. Anything tighter for axle torque is a bad thing. It can crush and distort the axle spacer and misalign the wheel bearings, so make sure you share the SM knowledge with your tech. If he blows off reading about and learning the correct way to do it, take back any money you may have paid, and shoot him dead. Then move on. | ||
| Ulykan |
Thanks for the info. This is a former HD tech at a Yamaha shop. He is familiar with my Uly since he did the repairs on it last June 2009 after my incident on the Dragon and I do trust him to do the work. I'm certain that he won't do me wrong on this but I'll take your advice and have the SM with me to be sure. I'll also print this thread and take it too. Thanks again Vern for the help. Bob | ||
| Froggy |
If the wheel is already off the bike, the belt is just hanging there. To remove it, you undo the two Allen bolts for the swingarm brace, remove any belt guards in the way, and it will literally fall off. Getting a brand new belt on is a bit of a pain, as it will be tight. | ||
| Xbimmer |
There're 4 bolts on the brace, one is longer than the others, and whatever you do make sure it's tightened back up before the axle is torqued. | ||
| Ulykan |
Well fellas the outcome wasn't what I'd hoped for. First, the old belt has a hole in it. Second, my "spare" belt was a Sportster belt. (had it for over a year and didn't know it was the wrong one). Third, they charged me a full hour labor and didn't even put the "new" belt on. Also, they told me that BadWeb members don't know what they're talking about when it was stated 20 minutes to replace the belt with the tire off. So there we have it. I'm upset with the shop and feel like I was taken advantage of and now I don't dare ride until I get a new belt. Oh and btw, I asked how much to install a new belt with the wheel still on and was quoted 45 minutes. Go figure....an hour with the wheel off or 45 minutes with the wheel on! I'll not be riding for awhile sad to say. I think it's time to learn how to change out my belt myself. (Message edited by Ulykan on August 20, 2010) | ||
| Etennuly |
Sorry to hear that. I guess some of those techs are not too mechanically inclined. It may have offended them a bit if you actually showed them what I, or possibly some others had posted. Did they take a gander at the Buell service manual? Bob, when your belt comes in I will gladly help you through installing it. When you get it shoot me a PM and I will send ya my phone number if you don't still have it. | ||
| Ulykan |
Vern, they had this thread which I printed and took with me as well as the service manual. The thread is the reason they stated that BadWeb members don't know what they're talking about. And yes, they were offended when I stated that they raped me on the labor. I even tried to reason out with them that they overcharged me but again, they stated that they were being very helpful and were upset with my statement. They had matched MSS tire price on a Pirelli Angel @ $150 and were charging $55 labor to mount and balance it. I came away being charged $118 total which is $60 labor to remove and replace the old belt. When my new belt arrives I'll shoot a pm to you. Thanks!! | ||
| Ulykan |
There is one bright spot today. The local indy that sold me the Sportster belt has agreed to refund my money when I return the belt. Finally a little sunshine on a cloudy day.  | ||
| Yamafreak |
On a 08XT can you just pull the belt guard and the axle and drop the wheel to change the belt? Or do you have to remove the brake and idler pulley too?  |
