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Snow_jw
Posted on Thursday, August 05, 2010 - 09:01 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Ok so I did plan for something like this and got a spare rear tire ready to go.

Now I got the rear axel pinch bolt on the right side as you are sitting on the bike.

I hear talk about bolts as in one more?? I can't find it and axle is not moving a bit.

Any tips on getting the rim off this bike so I can be on my way in the morning.

Thanks
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Nipsey
Posted on Thursday, August 05, 2010 - 09:12 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Just the one pinch bolt - then it should loosen up
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Snow_jw
Posted on Thursday, August 05, 2010 - 09:17 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Crap man this thing must be TIGHT I will try some more.

What else is needed to get the wheel out do I need to loosen the belt I assume and how is the best way to do that??


Sorry new to the belt drive system.
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Nipsey
Posted on Thursday, August 05, 2010 - 09:23 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Manual says to
1 remove caliper,
2 loosen pinch bolt,
3 loosen axle 15 turns to remove tension on belt,
4 remove idler pulley
5 Remove axle
6 Remove wheel

I have a Free Spirits Belt Tensioner that does not require removal to get the wheel off - can't remember if the stock one requires it
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Hotrod54
Posted on Thursday, August 05, 2010 - 09:24 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

the axle treads in, so you have to unscrew it with the adapter thats in your tool kit.
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Nipsey
Posted on Thursday, August 05, 2010 - 09:24 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Oh yeah put some anti seize on the axle to help the next time you want to remove it!
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Snow_jw
Posted on Thursday, August 05, 2010 - 09:28 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Thanks guys Manual is not with me I will take it with me next time that's for sure.
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Nipsey
Posted on Thursday, August 05, 2010 - 09:32 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

No worries -
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Mikef5000
Posted on Thursday, August 05, 2010 - 09:55 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I remove my wheel without removing the caliper or belt tensioner. Just sayin.
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Hotrod54
Posted on Thursday, August 05, 2010 - 10:00 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

The caliper has to come off, I've had mine off twice without removing the tensioner.
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Mikef5000
Posted on Thursday, August 05, 2010 - 10:30 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Huh. Maybe I'm forgetting the step about the caliper.
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Paul56
Posted on Thursday, August 05, 2010 - 10:52 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Remove the splash guard above the tire. Jack up the rear wheel so it just clears the ground (helpful if you can have it vertical when you do this). Loosen the pinch bolt. Wind out the axle bolt until you can remove it completely. Wiggle the tire/wheel out leaving the caliper and idler in place. Never had to remove either.
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Natexlh1000
Posted on Thursday, August 05, 2010 - 10:58 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

You don't need to remove the caliper or the tensioner.
All that is needed is the axle and the lower belt guard.
Once axle is out, move the wheel forward to loosen up the belt for removal.
Then the tire is ready to come out.
Remember to compress the caliper's piston to make it more easy to get it back together.
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Snow_jw
Posted on Friday, August 06, 2010 - 12:52 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Was an easy job once I got the axle loose put some anti-sieze on it should be better next time.

Bearings were tight no slop but I felt bolth of them were very tight moving not supper loose and easy to spin so I am going to order a set just incase.

I did not remove the belt tensioner I did take off the caliper though maybe I should have left it on??
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Dfishman
Posted on Friday, August 06, 2010 - 05:44 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

DID YOU GREASE THE BEARINGS?You can pop off the seals with a dental pic & regrease the bearing.I do this every tire change.27500 miles on orange bearings.
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Reepicheep
Posted on Friday, August 06, 2010 - 08:30 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I did it fine without removing anything but the pinch bolt and the axle. It takes a little patience and you have to watch the belt carefully to make sure you don't kink or stress it. All said and done, I probably should have just removed at least one bolt on the tensioner, it probably would have been less time and headache. I did it the way I did as a kind of dry run to know what my options are if I get a flat out on the road between "nobody" and "nowhere". Again. ; ) ... So now I know that in a pinch I can have the rear wheel off the bike and in hand with just a jack, an allen wrench for the pinch bolt, the factory axle nut tool, and a big crescent wrench.

In a real pickle, I could probably even improvise and get away without the jack, and use rocks or logs.

Another trick to getting un-anti-siezed-so-they-siezed axles out was to take the factory axle tool and weld it (or build your own and weld it). That makes the whole thing less flexy, so especially if you are using an impact wrench, it comes out better. That's a solution if somebody already created a problem and put in the axle without anti-sieze.
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Jphish
Posted on Friday, August 06, 2010 - 09:46 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Caliper removed, not an imperative, but makes it much easier to reinstall wheel. Also, while you're down there, remove caliper pins - clean & lightly lube with silicone grease. They're supposed to float.
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Jessemc
Posted on Friday, August 06, 2010 - 12:28 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

In a real pickle, I could probably even improvise and get away without the jack, and use rocks or log

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Reepicheep
Posted on Friday, August 06, 2010 - 12:49 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Brilliant! Thanks!
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Cyclonedon
Posted on Friday, August 06, 2010 - 04:19 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Who parked that roadgrader on that guardrail?
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Jessemc
Posted on Saturday, August 07, 2010 - 10:28 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Cyclonedon: Who parked that roadgrader on that guardrail?

Blame it on BRAN, if you ask me - full story at http://badweatherbikers.com/buell/messages/142838/ 551812.html?1270460896
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