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Mattmcc00
Posted on Monday, July 12, 2010 - 04:10 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Installed a TKC 80 on the rear of my uly on Saturday.

I did it manuall using Bestrest BeadsetR and BeadBreakR, and the blue shop manual.

Took 2 hours, but it was the first time I was ever attempting to change a motorcycle tire.

Manual had me flipping back and forth, to remove the chin fairing, pully cover, tensioner pully, rider footpeg assembly, break caliper.

Not the easiest thing to change.

In hindsight, I may not have had to remove the front chin... maybe I could have gotten away with just removing the right side bolts.

Here are some pics.











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Yankee_dog
Posted on Monday, July 12, 2010 - 04:49 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

good job,

looking forward to hearing how they work out for you,

Yankee Dog
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Etennuly
Posted on Monday, July 12, 2010 - 05:03 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

That is looking like it is in need of throwing a rooster tail! .....Pics please!
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Johnboy777
Posted on Monday, July 12, 2010 - 05:35 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

What size are those - and what is your intention for the front?

Thanks
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Bosh
Posted on Monday, July 12, 2010 - 10:46 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Wow... be careful the first few times you take that around some tight turns. Looks like it's almost out of tread just being on the kick stand. Maybe it's just the pics.
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Kickastro
Posted on Monday, July 12, 2010 - 11:15 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

My favorite tire on my 650 Pegaso, What about the front?
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Rotorhead
Posted on Tuesday, July 13, 2010 - 03:01 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

You'll love that tire on the ULY I did. I ended up with a tube type knob for the front. I'd like to see what you come up with to throw on the front. Being north of the boarder you may have access to different options than I did.

BTW the 130 TKC will not work for a front. the side walls will hit the fork legs. I proved it to myself instead of heeding others experiments.

Are you still planing on the TLH?
for hose of that haven't followed this historic road opening.
http://www.tw.gov.nl.ca/trans_lab_highway/index.html
http://tlhwy.com/index.html

(Message edited by rotorhead on July 13, 2010)
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Mattmcc00
Posted on Tuesday, July 13, 2010 - 11:32 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

This TKC 80 is brand new, only 20km on them.

For the front I am putting on a Pirelli MT60. Not the best off-road tire, but I really wanted to keep the stock size in the front, and I also didn't want to loose too much road handling. Besides from my experience off road my biggest problem was lack of traction in the back, followed by slipping out of the front. Hopefully the TKC will fix the traction problem, and I can worry about the front afterwards if the MT60 doesn't work out. I was a little worried about messing with too much at the same time.

Regarding the TLH, yup, plans are shaping up. Vacation time is booked for the last 2 weeks of august, I have a friend who lives in Fermont and he said that starting around the first week of September it gets really cold evenings and mornings, and so he strongly recommended the last 2 of august for crisp air but not too cold, good for motorcycling.

you?
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Mattmcc00
Posted on Tuesday, July 13, 2010 - 11:36 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

What pressure do you run on the TKC?

The sidewall says max cold pressure 35PSI, however, when I called BMW they said the they put 40 to 42 PSI in them for the 1200GSA!!!

Buell manual says to but 36 IIRC, but that is for a dunlop or scorpion that can take 42 PSI max also IIRC.
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Rotorhead
Posted on Tuesday, July 13, 2010 - 12:47 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I run the 35PSI. the tire is already stretched and I don't want to run to soft (rim damage)or to hard and blow out the bead.

Well the it looks like I might be home in time but the permission from the wife will be tough to get. Were riding 1-5 Sep in the NC mtns so it would be tight to rip up north and then south. email me your dates and route plans and I'll see what I can do to make a ride of it.
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Towpro
Posted on Tuesday, July 13, 2010 - 12:58 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Mattmcc00 and Rotohead, did you guys see this thread? Its closer to your your neck of town.

http://www.advrider.com/forums/showthread.php?t=59 4395
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Rotorhead
Posted on Tuesday, July 13, 2010 - 01:41 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Towpro,
Hell I was looking at your TPAT. I've downloaded it and "flown" it in google earth but it is this route ULYable? I've ridden and hiked allot of PA and the route looks like allot of fun. Allot of hard work put in that route great job!!
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Mattmcc00
Posted on Tuesday, July 13, 2010 - 02:20 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

TPAT?
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Towpro
Posted on Tuesday, July 13, 2010 - 02:33 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

The TPAT (Trans PA Trail).

If you download the zip file that contained a gpx file for every day you got them from me.

I think I marked the files for the days we actually finished "as rode". Yes I rode them on my Uly. Also with me was a F800gs, Vee Strom 650 and a R1200sx (with street tires) On the last day another guy joined us with a Vee Strome 1000.

Problem is we got rained out. The dirt turned to mud, and we decided to had home before we broke body or bikes. We made it to Emporium PA.

This route will will be completed with the help of others. I have another link I am riding later this year from Hancock NY into my current trail.
Here is a write up of my trip with pictures
http://www.advrider.com/forums/showthread.php?p=13 164507#post13164507
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Mattmcc00
Posted on Wednesday, July 14, 2010 - 02:17 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

received my MT60 front yesterday.
I will try to mount it toinight.
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Eulysses
Posted on Wednesday, July 14, 2010 - 03:52 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Great choices Matt. You are inspiring me. With my XB9 gear reduction and your tires...roosterville in the back country. Now barkbusters and metal bags...should be done!
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Rotorhead
Posted on Thursday, July 15, 2010 - 02:26 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Tell me how that combo works out. I still have a mt60 front laying around.
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Mattmcc00
Posted on Thursday, July 15, 2010 - 01:46 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Little snafu last night, computer doesn't post!

I have to fix that problem before I can tackle the front tire.

On a side note the TKC80s are working out great. As are the dynabeads i use to balance them.
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Kickastro
Posted on Friday, July 16, 2010 - 02:04 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

From my experience with dual sport tire choice, the front is definitely more important to have deep tread blocks on. On dry & moderate fire roads, your main concern will be washing out the front during braking, though accelerating to dangerous speeds is never as much of a problem, even with a balding rear tire. BTW, What knobbies are available for the front of our bikes anyway?
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Rotorhead
Posted on Friday, July 16, 2010 - 02:38 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Here is a quick chart for size comparison.
http://www.webbikeworld.com/Motorcycle-tires/tire- data.htm

Up to the rider to go tubeless or tubed. I did a tubed non DOT front with no ill effects but it handled like it had a rear tire on the front.
Oh yeah, it was a rear tire mounted up front and it handled as such on the pave but not off road.
I think the MT60 front will work out fine. It's a great rain tire too.
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Mattmcc00
Posted on Monday, July 26, 2010 - 12:47 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

OK so I put on the MT-60 in the front during the weekend.

I used dynabeads to balance it.

So far I have ridden it in combo city highway for about 1 hour 2-up and about 30mins city & highway solo.

Whwn 2-up i find that there is something a little funny going on in the front. The wheel seems to want to stay upright when riding until i reach a certain point then it wants to dive down. Not sure if this is due to the dynabeads, the tire, or impropermounting of the wheel. Anyhow, for peace of mind I will have the dealer remove the tire and the beads and re-install the tire with conventional glued on weights and see if it still does the same. If so then chances are its the tire.
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Mattmcc00
Posted on Tuesday, August 03, 2010 - 02:16 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

ok, so i had the dealer remove and reinstall my front tire. Seems better now.

The MT-60 tread pattern do cause some road noise but I kinda think thats cool. Also, I drove them through the rain this morning and they were rock solid. Excellent rain tire.
I even had a scary moment when the BMW infront of me hit a patch of deeper water and did a little hydroplaning into the other lane. With no time to really brake, I let-off on the throttle and gripped down onto the handles but nothing really happened, The bike cut through the water no big deal.


The TKC80 on the back though gets very slippery in the curves on wet pavement.
Highway on and off ramps had my tail trying to get ahead of me. Glad the front stayed firmly planted.
Oh and painted lines at street lights. Need to be smooth on the throttle cause the back wheel spins reall easily on those.
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