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Barkbuster
Posted on Saturday, June 19, 2010 - 12:20 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Riding home from work this morning and thought the fan was making more noise than normal.Then I felt a wiggle in the rear, seemed like a flat, not. hmmm. 230am dark thunderstorms just passed thru...drove it home slow. checked it out a few minutes ago drive side wheel bearing shotVacation started today too! guess I`m lucky it didn`t make me crash. Still sucks though. 7100 miles is all it went.Was hoping to get a ride in at the homecoming and meet some of the posters from badweb this weekend, shucks

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Motorbike
Posted on Saturday, June 19, 2010 - 12:30 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Can you give a little more info please? Have you or anyone else had the rear axle out for any reason. Is it possible someone could have over-torqued it etc.? Tire replaced by you or someone else? Pressure wash the bike? Does whatever is left of the bearing look rusty?
Any other possible reasons would be helpful. Thanks.
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Barkbuster
Posted on Saturday, June 19, 2010 - 01:07 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Tire was replaced at 6237 by a shop in Kenosha.never been pressure washed by me. Got the bike with 3000 miles on it last Oct.Got it loaded in my truck to drop it off at Hal`s where I bought it.
l8r bb
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Pso
Posted on Saturday, June 19, 2010 - 05:34 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Be interesting to see what the torque is on that rear axle. If it exceeds spec maybe squished the spacer.
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Barkbuster
Posted on Saturday, June 19, 2010 - 11:51 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

On my way to Hal`s today I stopped by the shop that did the tire change and talked to the guy that did the tire swap, told him what happened and he remembered doing the job. he said that its pretty slick the way the axle is made and hard to get it wrong putting it back together.I watched him thread it back in and the belt tension tightened up as he snugged it up then snugged the pinch bolt on the axle. No air tools no big leverage on the wrench. The service dept at Hal`s was aware of bearing failures so I hope to get it back by Wed.
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Pso
Posted on Monday, June 21, 2010 - 09:00 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Did he tighten the axle up to a certain level, then back if off, I forget how many turns, then snug it back up to torque spec? That is the proper procedure to set everything up properly. Easy to do do but maybe often overlooked.
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Barkbuster
Posted on Wednesday, June 23, 2010 - 12:24 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Well got my bikes diagnosis today. Double surprise . Drive side bearing was worse inside than outside,damaged spacer and wheel! dealer search found no wheels anywhere so its being vendor supplied.
May even be the current 3 bearing model.14 day wait.front brake also being replaced for pulsing, new pads and rotor. Looks like I`ll miss the 4th of July trip I had lined up too!On the plus side the machine should be pretty sorted out for awhile. Guess I`ll ride the Klx when i get the top end back to put it together by fri.
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Hughlysses
Posted on Wednesday, June 23, 2010 - 12:28 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Barkbuster- several Uly riders here that had rear bearing failures like yours on bikes under warranty got the 2010 upgrade during the fix. I suspect they flat out stopped production of the old two bearing wheels and so the upgrade is the only replacement they have available.
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Ronmold
Posted on Wednesday, June 23, 2010 - 03:44 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Right, 14 days is what I was told also, now it's day 49!
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Barkbuster
Posted on Thursday, June 24, 2010 - 11:32 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Right, 14 days is what I was told also, now it's day 49!
Thats just wrong
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Barkbuster
Posted on Wednesday, July 07, 2010 - 01:39 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

A big thanks to my pal Betty Buell for letting me use his spare wheel off his 1125.
We did a 349 mile 2/day ride in northwest Mi. last weekend and the bike ran perfect. Its now back @ Hal`s waiting for the wheel. Its only been 11 business days since they took it apart so I`ll probably be waiting awhile.They replaced the front pads and rotor too and it stops so smooth now.I got the pads seated in to the rotor pretty good in 349 miles.
Also a big thanks to Hal`s for letting me get my bike to use for the weekend which was planned for weeks ago before the bearings failed.
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Smac
Posted on Wednesday, July 07, 2010 - 02:01 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Barkbuster,

If I were you, I would not let the shop that recently changed your tire do any more tires swaps for you. Seems like to much of a coincidence to me...failed bearing, damaged spacer & wheel after only 800 miles?! Like Pso stated, there is a specific procedure in the shop manual for torqueing the rear axle that should be followed. My guess is that this shop is not an authorized H-D/Buell dealership and they did not follow the procedure.

If you have a way to lift the bike, removing the rear wheel & reinstalling it is a pretty easy procedure if you have the shop manual.
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Jphish
Posted on Wednesday, July 07, 2010 - 04:15 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

a way to lift Bike?? A jack under triangle marker on muffler, with block of wood between - thats it. Changed 5 sets of tires that way. PS - I agree..."failure & shop" to coincidental for my comfort. Torque rear to 25# - back off 2 turns, and retorque to 50#. Dont forget PINCH bolt!! PSS - I relube and use antiseize around bearing seal at every tire change. Takes 10 mins. Got 25K mi on KBCs. So far, so good. j
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Barkbuster
Posted on Thursday, July 08, 2010 - 01:04 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Its easy to say the shop may have caused the failure but the wheel bearing did not fail in a day. It was a gradual failure that had began weeks before. the squeak I heard that Sat morning I had heard before the tire change. I just never saw the damaged seal till it was visible.
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Smac
Posted on Thursday, July 08, 2010 - 01:26 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I agree, but if the rear wheel was improperly installed, it may have accelerated the failure. There are many factors that seem to contribute to these bearing failures...the mileage at failure varies greatly.

I recently changed my tires and inspected the bearings prior to installing. Funny thing was, my rear bearings were fine but my front bearings were shot. After a little discussion with my local H-D dealership, they swapped out the front wheel bearings under warranty.
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Barkbuster
Posted on Saturday, July 10, 2010 - 03:34 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Ronmold in another tread said new parts ship Monday! Hope mine are in the mix too. may be 2 wheeling again next week
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Barkbuster
Posted on Wednesday, July 14, 2010 - 01:30 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Guess I`m not getting a wheel this week. Some folks have got theirs but have been waiting way longer than me. My dealer hasn`t heard anything yet Got a used wheel on ebay should be here Friday so I`ll get to use my bike till the new stuff shows up.
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Electraglider_1997
Posted on Wednesday, July 14, 2010 - 02:10 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Take your wheel in to get the tire changed and then reinstall yourself. I can understand not having the correct equipment to change the tire without bungling up the rim but just taking the rear wheel off and putting it back on is something every motorcyclist needs to be able to do for himself. I've always changed my own tires except now with these fancy rims. Once of these days I'm going to invest in the equipment, Harbor Freight maybe.
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Smac
Posted on Wednesday, July 14, 2010 - 02:29 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

A friend of mine bought the HF tire changer & wheel balancer. We've changed a few tires but with the tools supplied, it's darn near impossible to change a tire without slightly scratching up the rim. We even tried coating the tool tips but that didn't last. If you don't mind scratching up your rims a little bit (heck, even the shops do this sometimes), it's a pretty good investment that will pay for itself rather quickly.
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Froggy
Posted on Wednesday, July 14, 2010 - 02:36 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Cycle Hill changer will not scratch your rim, and is very affordable. Made by the same people that make the No-mar.

http://www.cyclehilltirechanger.com/products/compa re

I will be getting one once I figure out a way to install it that doesn't require anchoring to the floor or getting a car with trailer hitch.
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Bluzm2
Posted on Wednesday, July 14, 2010 - 02:41 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I have the HF tire changer.
I heat formed sheet plastic of some sort over both ends of the bar. Worked great and had no issues with scratches.
However, the plastic is getting thin and worn out.
I ordered a Mojo bar last week. Should be here any day.
I also ordered Mojo blocks for the changer.
This is a far superior clamping method than their metal hooks. I welded tabs on the top of mine and used pieces of an old tire to cover them. Worked OK but the Mojo Blocks will be easier and work better with wide wheels.

I'll report back after I've changed some tires after the stuff gets here.

Brad
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Mideon
Posted on Wednesday, July 14, 2010 - 02:51 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

If you are doing a fair about you might check out the No-Mar tire changers
http://nomartirechanger.com/
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Discochris
Posted on Thursday, July 15, 2010 - 01:10 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Even better, if you have a lot of close-by friends that ride, split the cost of the No-Mar and you'll all come out ahead.
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Barkbuster
Posted on Thursday, July 15, 2010 - 04:17 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Shucks ,Wheel won`t get here till Monday.All I gotta do is swap brake and pulley cause its got a decent tire on it.
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Barkbuster
Posted on Wednesday, July 21, 2010 - 01:18 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Back in the saddle again for now. Got the spare ebay wheel on and rode it to work yesterday. Has a Dunlop sportmax qualifier that may go a few thousand miles. Seems to be ok with the diablo strada on the front.
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Barkbuster
Posted on Wednesday, August 04, 2010 - 01:31 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Yippie!Got a call Monday that my wheel came in. Took it back to Hal`s and they took my spare off and put the new 2010 unit on yesterday.A big thanks goes to Hal`s again for letting me use the bike while I waited for the parts. 2000 miles and 2 trips would have been missed if it just sat around in the shop. l8r bb
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