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Missin44
Posted on Wednesday, June 02, 2010 - 09:06 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I'm replacing the rear tire on my Uly. Locally I found a shop that has the Micheline Pilot Power 2CT for less than what I'll pay for a new tire at the dealer, about $50 less. Only issue is mixing brands between front and rear. I've read a lot about the Micheline's and would like to make the switch. I personally have no issue with mixing, but thought i would make a post and see if anyone here and tried mixing and what they thought.

Thanks
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Oldwesterncowboy
Posted on Wednesday, June 02, 2010 - 09:32 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I don't like to mix.

the overall shape, roundness, of a tire is different.

So if you mix them it may change the handling in corners.

how worn is the front?
if they have them that cheap, get both
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Missin44
Posted on Wednesday, June 02, 2010 - 09:47 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

the front only has 2200 miles, like new
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Etennuly
Posted on Wednesday, June 02, 2010 - 10:12 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I have successfully mixed brands several times. You need to ride it within the bounds of what the tires can do as a team. The casings shapes are different as well as the rubber compounds.

I have run the D616 front with the Scorpion Sync rear, and the Michelin Pilot Road II with the Scorpion Sync front. It has always handled better with a matched pair, but I was not going to throw a new tire away when all you really need to do is slow down to run what is on there.
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Bdrag
Posted on Wednesday, June 02, 2010 - 10:15 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Missin44

I also do not like mixing brands. More compound differences to me as far as my concerns and I guess shape or profile can be an issue as well.

I have and am currently running two different tires but both are Pirelli's. Running the Angel front and the 190/55/17 rear Scorpion Trail. Compounds seem to be compatible when the bike was pushed. I rode it Sunday as hard as I have pushed it with no issues.

BDRAG
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Skiaddict
Posted on Wednesday, June 02, 2010 - 11:44 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I ran a Pirelli Strada front with a Metzler Roadtec Z6 rear. They were both similar sport touring oriented tires, so I really didn't notice much of a difference. YMMV
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Debueller
Posted on Wednesday, June 02, 2010 - 03:52 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I have been running Pirelli Scorpion Sync's on the front and Dunlop 616's on the rear for tens of thousands of miles with no ill effects.
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Firstbuell
Posted on Wednesday, June 02, 2010 - 03:59 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

'they' [manufacturers] say not to - of course!!

most of the time, it's no biggie -
if a handling issue exists, you'll know immediately
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Froggy
Posted on Wednesday, June 02, 2010 - 04:27 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I am running a non street legal Pilot Race front and a Diablo Strada rear. : )
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Dr_greg
Posted on Wednesday, June 02, 2010 - 05:07 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I used a D616 front and a Michelin 2CT rear for a while. Didn't push it too hard but it felt fine.

--Doc
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Choyashi
Posted on Wednesday, June 02, 2010 - 08:51 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

How in the "hell" can a 120/70 front have the same profile as a 180/55 rear?
So, what does maker matter?
The only way you would have a handling problem is to run a 180/55 at both ends,
then the bike wouldn't even turn!!!!
I will not pay $160 for a tire.
What's on sale goes on the wheel that needs a tire at the time.
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Missin44
Posted on Wednesday, June 02, 2010 - 08:55 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Well what I suspected was the case proved it's self, people that had actually mixed had no issues. Ordered my Micheline Pilot Power 2CT Rear today for a great price of $152.
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Reepicheep
Posted on Wednesday, June 02, 2010 - 09:23 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Scorpion Sync front with a 170 series D205 handled REALLY bad on a uly. It got me home, which I appreciated, but I couldn't get it off fast enough.

I mixed a Metzler MeZ6 rear with an MeZ4 front on an M2, with no problem at all.

YMMV. I wouldn't risk it for $50, but I might for $100, and I would for $150.
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Choyashi
Posted on Wednesday, June 02, 2010 - 10:46 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Sportmax D205 rear with Shinko 006 front.
Discontinued D205 was $75. Shinko was less
then $100.........That's what I call tire
performance!!!!!!!!!!!
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Us_uly
Posted on Wednesday, June 02, 2010 - 11:28 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Anyone running a Sync on the front and a Pirelli Angel ST on the rear?
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05mxdiesel
Posted on Thursday, June 03, 2010 - 01:59 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

D616 front and shinko raven rear. I was made fun of at the PA buell ride last weekend. Handles fine to me.
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Johnnylunchbox
Posted on Thursday, June 03, 2010 - 05:02 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Scorpion Sync front and Metzeler Z6 rear. Handles better than it did with the worn out Sync rear.

Mix away. No big deal.
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Smac
Posted on Friday, June 04, 2010 - 05:51 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Missin44,

That is not such a great deal. If you don't want to worry about mixing tires, you can buy a set of Pilot Power 2CT from jakewilson.com for $180.98 shipped! That price includes a $20 coupon code discount (JWCS20). Less than $30 more for a new front tire and then you won't have to lose any sleep! : )
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Hmartin
Posted on Saturday, June 05, 2010 - 10:52 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I ran a D616 rear and a Roadsmart rear with a Sync front tire for 7k miles with no problems. Only when I got down to the wear bars on the Sync did I start experiencing handling issues like wallowing on corner exits if grip was anything less than ideal. I was always more cautious on wet pavement with a mixed set, too, but other than that, it worked out great. I'd do it again.
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