| Author | Message | ||
     Xenox |
Hey all.. I can't decide which to get ,if I even get one in the first place. I'm not trying to start a war, I like both , I'll probably always be on asphalt with it. In the back of my mind if I ever see some fire roads or dirt trail I may ride on those as well. I'd appreciate some pointers , as well as preferred years and such....... | ||
| Wolfridgerider |
how tall are you? 5'10" or taller.... X 5'9" or shorter... XT Just a suggestion.... | ||
| Trevd |
XT - street only X - dirt worthy (apparently!) | ||
| Bdrag |
Xenox X has a little more suspension travel and beefier front forks. Also has the low and high style fender in front. XT comes with bags I think. The bags can be installed on the X. I have them. No top box. Buy one and shut up! HAHahaaa. BDRAG | ||
| Tiltcylinder |
The XT is easy to flatfoot at lights, comfy and quick. Heated grips and big bags. Done the back/clay/gravel roads thing... it's not for bombing down fire roads at machII, but it does fine when ridden with care/finess. Better with no windscreen that the stock 'tall' one though. | ||
| Discochris |
XT runs fine on gravel roads. | ||
| Bishopjb1124 |
X Jimmy | ||
| Xenox |
Good info..... Interesting comment on the windscreen, I'm not sure I'm clear on it... Lets see , better the short screen or no screen than the taller one? At any rate thanks you all ! | ||
| Froggy |
Damn it, I'm 5' 9.5"  | ||
| Mideon |
Depends on what you are wanting really. I have a XT and my partner has an X. I wanted something for more touring with some off road and he wanted off road with some touring. For me, the cases were the deciding factor | ||
| Wolfridgerider |
Interesting comment on the windscreen, I'm not sure I'm clear on it... Lets see , better the short screen or no screen than the taller one? I got a HUGE amount of wind beating my head with the tall screen. I had a little with the short screen. Mostly clean air with no screen at all. I use a Cee Baileys if its raining or cold. If its warm and nice I go windscreenless | ||
| Xenox |
Good to know thanks ............IMO they look cool with the shorter w/s........ | ||
| Discochris |
it's also not really your height, but your inseam. I'm 6' tall, but I have short legs, so I only have a 30" inseam, which is why I went with the XT. | ||
| Fordrox |
6'3" w/34" inseam, i can flatfoot my X no problems. i chose X and bought the bags, X has some differences that were mentioned plus heaver duty wheels, but i just liked the look of the X better than the XT. | ||
| Biffdotorg |
I was searching for a 2-up version of my 12s when I traded, so the XT was my choice. I was mainly a tar guy, but I have run some fire roads. I'm 6'2" with 33-34" inseam. The XT is very comfortable and the windscreen works just fine for me. Ride them both and be honest if you need the off-road tires and beak. You will not be unhappy with either one. My guess is the amount of new XT's out there is getting very limited. Enjoy! | ||
| Xbeau12s |
I'd go with the X. I like the look of the X and the handling better. But that's my opinion. | ||
| Biffdotorg |
"handling better" is based on where you are riding it. When I said be honest with yourself, that's what I meant. My XT will handle better on the tar than an X with the better road tires. The X will handle better in the dirt. Again, either is going to work and he will be happy with it, but one does not handle better than the other unless I am missing something. | ||
| Satori |
I remember seeing somewhere that the thought behind the design & marketing was that the X was designed with the rider that had dirt experience in mind, and the XT for the guy that had mostly street experience. Dont know if its true, but it sounds about right. | ||
| Dynasport |
It wasn't an easy choice for me either, but I ended up with a 2010 XT and I have no regrets. I don't ride in the woods, but I have been on dirt roads and the XT is fine for me there. I have a stock XT screen and I bought an X screen. Neither is pe®fect, but I prefer the XT screen most of the time. Bottom line, don't choose based on screen. Try to ride both and choose. They are more similar than different. | ||
| Reepicheep |
I wanted the XT (still haven't ridden one) until somebody made me an offer I couldn't refuse for an X. The reason I wanted the XT was that I didn't want to give up the handling of my 9sx. It took a bit of suspension adjustment, and i still had to adapt to the longer travel suspension, but now that I have, I'm not sure it isn't faster through turns then my 9sx is. I can't explain why... but there it is. So in hindsight, I am very happy with the X (I have a long inseam). Either bike will do gravel or dirt roads, neither bike is a dirt bike. Buy the one you want, and a $1500 KDX-200 or $2000 KTM dedicated offroad bike (seriously). | ||
| Tk052 |
Xenox, I opted for the XT because of the hard bags and sacrificed the fork travel figuring that was going to be on asphalt more than dirt. If the situation was reversed, more than likely my choice would have been a Kawasaki or Suzuki 650 thumper. I do not use the trunk box unless I'm going two up for more than a day trip, but it is nice to have! I'm not knocking the Uly X, as I almost bought one, but my mindset was still asphalt at the time. I have traveled gravel and dirt roads (even two up)in my home state of PA with no problem. The XT is an excellent road bike and it is nice to know that when you get to the fork in the road, taking the gravel one is not a problem and thank your lucky stars that you are not on an HD touring bike! | ||
| Reepicheep |
And just to amplify my previous comments... My previous "adventure tourer" was a Kawasaki KLR-250, the little one. Well under 300 pounds, kick start, geared down for dirt, full knobbies, bark busters, etc. Guess what? 1) It was still to remain fun for long in the dirt. 2) The "street legal" bits were too fragile and expensive for the dirt... even dull off road rides would result in $40 worth of broken turn signals / mirrors / etc. 3) The "good dirt" knobbies were loud, and would "catapiller" out to run wide on corners, and would only last maybe 500 miles on the street before the all important sharp knob edges would be rounded. So you would have to change tires based on the ride at hand. 4) Riding to the trail, riding the trail, riding home was really fun. Once. Then you think about the fact that you are an hour from home, and that if you break a shift lever or spit a chain or shear spokes or bend a rim badly, or even just sprain an wrist, you are going to have to call the neighbor and have him bring the truck (again) for a 2 hour round trip. So you ride like a whimp, clenching most of the time. The net effect was a dual sport that REALLY stunk on the road, and was mediocre and fairly impractical for the dirt. So I think the Uly is better then the KLR-650 for sure. The Uly is a MUCH better road bike, and about the same level of impractical in the dirt. After 20 minutes of staring at the big GE meatball on the MRI machine I was laying in, it became obvious to me that I needed a lighter dirt bike. Really, that's the moment I made the decision. Sold the KLR-250 and bought a KDX-200. About 200 pounds, maybe 25 or 30 HP, maybe $1500 at most, and just about indestructible. And I am seeing some REALLY sweet KTM's for the $2000 to $3000 range, though I suspect maintenance for those things adds up quick. Anyway, get a dirt bike, throw it on the truck or a trailer to take it to the trails, ride "fun" knowing that worst case you just have to drag the bike (or your body) back to the parking area, bring a buddy or a kid with their bike with you, and just enjoy the ride. I'm glad I spent the season I spent with the KLR-250, it was a great place to visit. But you wouldn't want to live there. The Uly and XT are both wonderful road bikes (paved, gravel, or dirt roads). Choose them based on that. When you want a dirt bike for single track, go get one. Inseam is probably the biggest deal. I'm 6'2" with a long inseam, and even I wonder where the ground went from time to time on my Uly. I'm loving the 1.5" rox risers though, and all the comfy room, and once the bike is in motion it's like an extension of me. | ||
| Nobuell |
Reepicheep I agree 100%. After years of off road riding, anything less than a full blown dirt bike would be disappointing. I purchased my XT because I wanted a good sport touring bike that was not a ricer for road use only. I do remember in my high school days riding barley street legal dirt bikes to a soon to be flooded reservoir area. We would ride 30 miles to get there with gas filled jerry cans strapped to our backs (no gas for miles), ride all day off road and then ride back home when we were low on gas. We didn't worry about breaking no stinking motorcycle parts (or human parts for that matter). Oh to be young and dumb again. | ||
| Whisperstealth |
Having both a KLR 650 and a Uly XT, I can say the KLR is better off road than the Uly XT, but not by a huge margin. The difference in tires being the biggest factor. For the price the KLR is a great 70/30 - 50/50 bike. Lots of tire choices, and the KLR handles way, way better than you think it would on the road. You can peg scrape and come out just fine. Anyway X or XT: I am 5'10" and 240lbs (I know) and have a 30" inseam. I live on a bumpy dirt and gravel road 1/3 from the highway. And live in an area where I'm on gravel / crappy roads a fair amount. My XT does just fine. I can not "blast" through, but believe I could with the proper tires. You should buy the bike that fits you the best, the one you are most comfortable on. You can then tailor the bike to your needs. Fenders/tires for the XT, bags for the X, etc. Either bike is awesome. | ||
| Yamafreak |
Dirt  street  Fun  | ||
| Xenox |
Good stuff you all......... Thanks! | ||
| Alchemy |
Yamafreak, Looks like a Catalina tank on that 250. I think I had that exact seat on my 350 Yamaha many years ago. Wore a hole in the bottom from rubbing on the fender<grin>. | ||
| Yamafreak |
Alchemy The bike is a 1966 YDS3 That I rode to High School. I turned in the tag's when I got the XT. The seat is from a Sportster | ||
| Idaho_buelly |
"X" with out a doubt..And if you want the fastest,GO BLACK!!  | ||
| Mikef5000 |
I would have picked the X in a heartbeat if my inseam allowed it. Since it didn't, I took an XT home, and have since taken it just about anywhere you could take an X. My muffler just gets a bit more beat up, that's all. |
