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Mattmcc00
Posted on Thursday, April 29, 2010 - 11:39 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Funny thing happening with my Uly.

The clock keeps resetting. To make matters worse it is intermittent.

Also, my speddo and tac neddles will sometimes cycle even if the key is not turned to on (or even in the bike). It does this when I move then bike upright from the sidestand. THat is the bike is resting on the sidestand, and when I straighten the steering wheel and level the bike off the sidestand, my needles will cycle, and I beleive this also resets my clock to 1 o'clock plus what ever minutes it currently is. For example if it is 10:36, my clock will say 1:36

It doesn't always do this but at least twice a week.

any ideas? bad ground?
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Wolfridgerider
Posted on Thursday, April 29, 2010 - 12:32 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

It sounds like the ground for the instrument cluster. Its #13 and black.

I spliced mine behind the headlights and grounded it to the front of the frame.



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Wolfridgerider
Posted on Thursday, April 29, 2010 - 12:36 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Just a FYI, What you have happening haunted me for about a year.

Ken, aka Sekalilgai looked at the wiring diagram for 5 seconds and told me to check the #13 ground wire.... BINGO!

My problem was solved!

Thanks again Ken!
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Mattmcc00
Posted on Thursday, April 29, 2010 - 12:54 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

The black one with the little yellow stipe?
is the picture you are showing a connector from behind the flyscreen?

Hmm... I had to undo all of the grounds when I installed the Fan cowling for the comfort kit. Maybe I should check that. I seems remember having diffuculties screwing them back? can't remeber what the diffuculty was exactly though.
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Wolfridgerider
Posted on Thursday, April 29, 2010 - 01:00 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

The black one with the little yellow stipe?

thats pin #7

#13 is the one you will be looking for.

It should be under the flesh tone looking one.
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Mattmcc00
Posted on Thursday, April 29, 2010 - 01:08 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Right! sorry.

and as for the location of this connector?
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Wolfridgerider
Posted on Thursday, April 29, 2010 - 01:32 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

It plugs into the back of the instrument cluster.

Remove the fly screen and you should be able to see it.

You will need to remove the headlights to get to the ground on the front of the frame but its worth it.

I can't tell you how pissed I would get when it would reset itself.
I never knew how many miles I had on a tank of gas. The effort was worth the reward for me.... FO SHO!
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Mattmcc00
Posted on Thursday, April 29, 2010 - 03:51 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

For me only the clock resets? the milage stays.
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Mattmcc00
Posted on Thursday, April 29, 2010 - 03:52 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

i have to take the flyscreen off tonight anyhow to install my new tall windshield.
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Rays
Posted on Thursday, April 29, 2010 - 06:25 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

You can check the ground and the power to the instrument connector by measuring with respect to the battery (measure the +12 volts with the other multimeter lead on the battery negative terminal and measure the ground wire with the other lead of the multimeter on the battery positive terminal) as it could also be a splice in the power line that is located in the loom at the headstock. Given that you can induce the fault by sweeping the handlebars you will zero in on this quickly.

The back-up power goes to pin 2 on the diagram above. I posted a picture of my original repair on this link:

http://www.badweatherbikers.com/buell/messages/384 2/402204.html?1224732205
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Biffdotorg
Posted on Thursday, April 29, 2010 - 07:10 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I had the same issue, and for me it was a matter of doing the simple things first.

I ordered relays from Al at American Sportbike to find out it was simply the battery. I even put it on the charger.

Tighten the connectors, then test. then replace the battery, then test. or take the battery to your local batteries plus or Interstate.

Mine did exactly as you are stating, and I thought for sure it was a connector or short in the harness.

Good luck, electrical gremlins are the worst!

mark
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Mattmcc00
Posted on Monday, May 03, 2010 - 04:44 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Well I pulled off the flyscreen to have a look see.

lots of dust and dirt in there. I blasted the connectors with some air. THe instuments connectors are nicely wrapped and securedin a heat shield and I didn't want to start messing with it.

cheked the grounds around the battery under the seat and they were all tight.

Might be the battery... I have noticed that sometimes when I start the bike (all i do is push the button) it gives one hit, then pauses..... then hits again and starts. During both hits my odometer and light turn off.
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Union_man
Posted on Monday, May 03, 2010 - 05:23 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Mine did that.

It would hit, pause, then it would start. It did this for about a month.
Finally it hit and then click, click, click...nothing.

I pushed it to "bump" start it. I drove to Batteries plus and installed the new battery.

I have had no problems since!
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Mattmcc00
Posted on Friday, May 07, 2010 - 03:39 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Ok so I have some news on this issue.

When I brought the bike in to have the head steering bearings verified, I mentioned the clock, and what you guys have suggested.

Dealer said that he could take a look real quick at the situation under the seat as he was going to take a look at the bearings but that I would need to comeback for a new appoinment to have an electrical problem fully reviewed.

When I picked up the bike the dealer said that I had a loose connector under the seat and that it should fix the problem? Didn't have the forethought of asking which connector, but in anyevent I have not had the clock reset on me since. Granted it has only been 3 days thgough.
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Rwcfrank
Posted on Friday, May 07, 2010 - 05:05 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Keep us updated, my clock has recently been possessed by the devil too.....
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Natexlh1000
Posted on Friday, May 07, 2010 - 06:09 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

probably the ground lug that goes to the aluminum frame.
My 2008 had some service bulletin performed there at some point since it was cranking slow.
(It's still cranking slow, WTF, right?)
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Blko8uly
Posted on Sunday, May 09, 2010 - 10:24 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Wolfridgerider you are right on with the #13 wire, just the wrong spot, for me anyway. I have found the wire cut where the bundle goes into the channel next to the frame. There is lot of tension in this area with a left turn.
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Mattmcc00
Posted on Monday, May 17, 2010 - 01:50 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Well, dealer says that my ignition needs to be changed, because when they put the key in and turn it to "on" sometimes it doesn't do anything until you wiggle the key.

I have had this happen to me once, anyhow they are going to cover this entirely on Warrenty... they also beleive that this should fix my neddles because they said that when they fiddled with the ignition unit (wires?)they could reproduce the needles moving on the dash??

anyhow we will see.
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