| Author | Message | ||
     Uly_dude |
I've had this 06 Uly for 3 weeks, thing has been running perfect, only modification is a Jardine pipe on it. Last night I was going over to another Uly rider's place, started it up, pulled in the clutch, stomped it into 1st and the thing lurched and died - with the clutch STILL pulled in. Never seen that before. The lever still indicated good pull, I could tell it wasn't broken or anything. I started it again, pulled in the clutch, put it into second and it started to pull and lug the engine, I held the brake and the motor barely kept idling. Then it got normal, then pulled. I left it home this morning, drove the car to work. Something is wrong. Any ideas? I'm going to check fluid levels and change the primary case fluids on Sat. I hope that's all it is. The guy I bought if from said the oil was fresh, but I didn't ask him about the primary case. Hope it's nothing serious. Greg | ||
| Froggy |
Needs a clutch adjustment, or your clutch cable is very close to snapping. | ||
| Etennuly |
I would wonder if someone put some totally wrong oil in the primary that made the clutches stick. | ||
| Uly_dude |
that's what I'm thinking(hoping) and a change of fluids will do the trick. But a clutch adjustment eh? I'll have to look up that procedure. Never done one of those before. You're not talking about at the lever are you? I get the feeling its an oil issue because it isn't consistent. One second it's lugging the engine, next its seems ok, then it jumps and dies. The whole time I'm sitting at a stop sign with the lever pulled in. Weird. Thanks for the helpful advice though. Greg | ||
| Ulynut |
Good thinking, Vern. Uly Dude, please post up when you get it figured out. | ||
| Etennuly |
Dan.....are you accusing me?  | ||
| Ulynut |
 Accusing? No, admiring. Every time I try to think, nothing happens. | ||
| Terrible1one3 |
Sounds like a good idea to change the fluid, adjust the clutch, inspect the cable, lubricate the cable. The clutch adjustment is pretty easy, slack out the cable, take the clutch cover off, remove the spring loaded lock nut, CC a few turns then slowly clockwise the set screw until you feel it start to engage the pack then back out 1/8-1/4 turn, you might have to adjust a tiny bit to get the lock nut back on. Install the clutch cover, tention the cable so when you pull the casing by the lever you can fit a dime but no more than a nickel between the cable housing and the lever mount and tadah. Clutch is adjusted. Oh and fill the fluid until the fluid touches the bottom of the clutch pack, usually just about a quart which is capacity. I use Formula + from Harley, it is nice and thick. Others recommend Lucas and say it's awesome. I might try that next change. If you still have the issue drive the bike through the garage door of the previous owner like those discount tire commercials where the old lady chucks the faulty tire through the window  . | ||
| Motoskier |
I had similar happen to me. Problem began exactly as yours, kicked it into 1st and died. Got it running (it was actually in 5th-who knows?) and got it to dealer. $1300 later (warranty covered it), and two months later got it back. Clutch pack and shifter, muffler clamp - waited two month on that $10 part. Get her to shop and be prepared for worst.. | ||
| Swampy |
If you ever take the primary cover off, you will be suprised at how much movement you get out to the clutch basket. Keep your primary chain adjusted to it's loosest adjustment without it making noise, then adjust your clutch. Also check the lips that hold the clutch release arm(the big round thing that holds the clutch adjustment screw, and is where the clutch cable attaches) in the primary cover, some times those wear and break. | ||
| Uly_dude |
OK, I'm going to attack it this weekend. Wish me luck. I'll take pictures if I find anything interesting in there. I knew I should've bought that service manual sooner! I sure hope it's not the $1300/2month fix. I always thought that transmission environment was indestructible. Thanks for all the help. I'll let you know. Greg | ||
| Terrible1one3 |
You better hope it's indestructable as there is no trap door and transmission work = split cases. That $1300 was probably warranty cost as opposed to out of warranty cost which will probably blow your mind if the cases need to be split. Which I doubt. And I can't believe someone waited 2 months for an exhaust strap as they are readily available everywhere just not the Buell part number. | ||
| Uly_dude |
So I got after my issue(see above) today. Opened the inspection window and found a huge mess! There was this spuge, looked like white frosting, all over with the consistency of peanut butter. The I drained the primary cavity and out poured this liquid that looked like milk chocolate! I have no idea what the previous owner put in there(I intend to write him and find out), but it wasn't good. It was so bad I went and bought some sea foam, threw it in there, ran the bike and drained it again - still brown but inside it looked squeaky clean. Then threw in some Amsway 20w50(thanks Ron). Took a short test drive and the problem seems to be solved. Time will tell. At least I can sleep tonight, thank you very much. I had some good pictures of this crud, but I can't seem to get my pics down to 103KB. I'll work on this. | ||
| Rays |
I wouldn't beat on the previous owner too hard - condensation in the primary is quite common if the bike is used for lots of short trips in cold weather.  You can also get water into the primary via the clutch cable - many of us run cable ties on the top side of the expandable rubber piece that covers the adjuster near the front header to prevent this. If it was as bad it sounds I would be doing another fluid change in the primary real soon as well just to make sure you have it nice and moisture free. Extended exposure to water in the primary can lead to bearing issues in the clutch basket. If you do a search you will find quite a few posts on the subject - heres one from Dr. Greg: http://www.badweatherbikers.com/buell/messages/142 838/327270.html | ||
| Natexlh1000 |
My primary filled with water from the rainy weather and the cocoa messed up the bearing that goes between the inside and outside of the clutch basket. They replaced it under warranty but accused me of taking it through rivers! I was just driving it to work! Anyways, pull the clutch when it's idling and listen for unusual sounds from the clutch like rumbling. If you get it early, it's no big deal. | ||
| Uly_dude |
Interesting info. I'll be keeping an eye on it alot more in case I do have a moisture issue. I finally got around to putting my photos through the manipulator. Check out this mess............     wait til ya see what I found next..... | ||
| Ronmold |
Wow chocolate syrup and it was makin' it's own ice-cream! EWE! BTW, the rest of the oil came in. (Message edited by ronmold on May 03, 2010) | ||
| Pso |
+1 Rays. Also in 06 models some of the folks found that using stuff other than the formula+ from Hardley caused the insulation on the Stator wires to get mushy and dissolve. I have not heard of that on anything other than those of us that had early 06 models. Now that I think of it, I have not seen much in the way of stator failure since the summer and fall of 06. |
