| Author | Message | ||
     Towpro |
is the caucus that much thicker then the sync? Is the Dunlop any thicker then the sync? I need tires, and have a 1000 mile trip planned which includes lots of roads covered with crushed stone. I am worried about stone punctures. | ||
| Drunk_uncle |
I personally haven't held or touched the tire, my bike is currently in Texas awaiting my arrival, but the Pirelli guy told me that the carcass and the tread are both thicker and stronger. The tread depth is about 3mm deeper than the Synch. They are also supposed to be dual compound. I won't know until late april myself. Please let us know if you get them. | ||
| Dr_greg |
Are they available yet? --Doc | ||
| Mikef5000 |
According to Pirelli when I called, the carcass is significantly thicker and heavier than the sync. I have yet to receive my tires. It's been 3 weeks now, and it was supposed to take 3 days. I'm on hold with them now to see wtf is going on. | ||
| Mikef5000 |
Alright, according to Motorcycle Superstore, I should receive my Trail's this Thursday. | ||
| Drunk_uncle |
I ordered mine through On Any Moto and are sitting at my parents awaiting my return. Only took a couple of days and was about 270 dollars for the set shipped. | ||
| Towpro |
Do the dunlops have a better track record for puncture resistance over the Syncs? I figured I might try to replace just the rear tire first, then later buy a front. The dunlops sure cost less | ||
| Mikef5000 |
Yes the dunlops do better off road. The syncs are not made for offroad in the least. Syncs are better on road though. Hopefully the Trails are the best of both worlds. | ||
| Towpro |
Thanks guys. Here is what I am getting ready for. I have laid this all out using map overlays of all the unimproved roads in PA. Four of us are going out to proof ride this route in Mid June. This map shows 800 miles of back roads in 4 days. I am thinking around 30-40% is stone forest service roads.  | ||
| Itileman |
Looks like a trip! Here's what I need the Trails for: http://advrider.com/forums/showthread.php?t=503890 | ||
| Towpro |
Maybe I should add 200 miles and call it the PA 1000  | ||
| Rotorhead |
The north end of that route in Potter county is near Ulysses PA you should stop for the pic and a bite to eat. BTW you happen to have a way to post a route/GPX for that I'd be up to ride it this summer too. I attempted a dusty butt 1000 last year that ended with bad weather. It would be nice to see if there is enough dirt to try a east coast version. It's hard to gather 1000 dirt miles in one area but not impossible. Maybe a little back tracking may be in order. | ||
| Kellaupat |
Good riding up there. I took a trip to Watkins Glen, NY last Thangsgiving and drove trough Potter County. Given the winter PA had, the potholes on the road will give your tires a test for sure! Looks like a great ride you have planned.  | ||
| Towpro |
We pass around 24 miles South of Ulysses. I would like to put it in, but as I kept finding more and more things I would like to put in, but we ran out of the time required to visit them all. I have 200 miles each day (in the area of Ulysses it is mostly stone forest service roads). I will post the GPX files after we proof ride it. we are leaving June 10th. This will probably be handed out through ADVrider.com | ||
| Towpro |
Anybody got one yet? Can you measure how deep the thread is in 32nd's of an inch on both the front and back tire please? The Dunlop 616 rear tire is 9/32" tread depth. I am thinking of putting the Trail on the front, and the 616 on the rear. Unless someone can warn me this is wrong? | ||
| Mikef5000 |
Mine came in Thursday. I'm not living at home this week, or I'd already have posted info and pics. I looked at them yesterday, and liked what I saw, only worrisome part is the fingernail test made them appear of fairly soft compound. When mixing brands of tires, you're always taking a risk of different profiles. Shouldn't make any difference, but the chance is there for some goofy handling characteristics. | ||
| Liv2 |
Mikef5000>>I'm not living at home this week, or I'd already have posted info and pics. Hurry up, get home, get em mounted, ride and write a detailed report  I need new shoes for the bike but still haven't decided which ones yet. I'm leaning towards the Trails, just waiting for some ride reports with them mounted on a ULY.} | ||
| Itileman |
FWIW - found this on advrider: http://advrider.com/forums/showthread.php?t=382054 | ||
| Towpro |
I think I been reading some riders have tried the dunlop on the back and the sync on the front with no problems. Right now it looks like my rear tire will expire before my front tire. I might put the dunlop outback and ride the trip that way. Then when the front expires there might be more data on the trail tire. At that point I will reevaluate. and the Dunlop is $50.00 less. Right now money is tight since I have to pay obama back for that tax credit he gave us.  | ||
| Mikef5000 |
Woo Hoo! Some of my tread life hopes have been restored! V-strom review on the Trails: Well I've got about 6,000 miles on the pair and the rear is near it end. Most of the wear occurring an 1800 mile trip were I was running over the ton for close to half of the miles in 95+ degree weather out in the wilds of Eastern Oregon, Nevada and Utah. You just can't put that much speed thru that small of a contact patch with out wear happening. I've not had any drama and have rode in all kinds of weather. Everything from the desert to mist covered coastal roads. The tires work just fine I'll be putting on another rear soon and will be putting on the same Scorpion Trail. One thing I'll add is my V-Strom is my street bike so I don't ride it off pavement much but the tires have done just fine in the short sections of gravel I've rode in. | ||
| Wolfridgerider |
Have you got them yet? | ||
| Mikef5000 |
  Maximum rear tread depth is a hair shy of 9/32's:  Front tread depth is 5/32:  I've never really fondled a sync or D616 to know if this is any 'heavier duty'. Should be mounted tonight! | ||
| Wolfridgerider |
prepare to mount...  MOUNT! | ||
| Dr_greg |
Not to derail the thread, but how do you use that Harbor Freight stand (I use one, too) w/o welding extension tabs (dipped in tool-handle dip so no scratchee) with the Uly wheels? Also very interested in your Scorpion Trails impression. --Doc | ||
| Wolfridgerider |
Ya got me.... see them dirt tires in the background, I pulled them off and put a set of conti's on my spare set of wheels. It wasn't pretty, but it got the job done... | ||
| Rotorhead |
Doc, The rear is tricky with the pulley, sprocket in my case, but plastic lid from the Dollar Store over it worked for me. The pulley has to be facing up because of the clearance underneath. I use hard plastic rim savers and a bunch of dish washing liquid on the beads. I'm going to have to get a NOMAR bar to keep the rims nice on the set I just picked up. The trial and error on my current rims are not for the bike show anymore. | ||
| Hughlysses |
Not to derail the thread, but how do you use that Harbor Freight stand (I use one, too) w/o welding extension tabs (dipped in tool-handle dip so no scratchee) with the Uly wheels? Mojo blocks make your HF tire changer a MUCH more motorcycle-friendly tool: http://home.comcast.net/~prestondrake/mojoblocks.h tm IIRC, they provide enough extra clearance below the wheel so that you can put the rear wheel pulley side down without removing the pulley. The Mojo Lever makes it even better: http://home.comcast.net/~prestondrake/mojoweb.htm | ||
| Paralegalpete |
I just read an in depth mag article on the new multi. Duc engineers said that the new bike would not be possible without these tires. They shopped 3 manufacturer's and only Pirelli took the job. Dual compound, harder in the middle and softer on the sides. Tread depth drops off sharply from middle to sides. | ||
| Reepicheep |
Looking forward to hearing how they work. The syncs rock on the 9sx, but the Uly might be happier with a little stronger (but heavier) rubber. | ||
| Reepicheep |
And is that my imagination, or can I see a seam where it goes from hard compound to soft compound? |
