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Jim_williams
Posted on Monday, March 15, 2010 - 03:46 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Further to thread I started last night.... http://www.badweatherbikers.com/buell/messages/142838/546847.html?1268647172
I'm back in my garage putting my bike back together. Checked it all out, and, still works great!

Put it all together. Turn key and it all works except now the right rear turn signal doesn't work and the right front as well as the right rear on new light bar are flashing fast.

I checked bulb and its fine. Swapped the two bulbs in rear for fun, and the good one works in the left but not the right..

Another simple one or?????

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Tootal
Posted on Monday, March 15, 2010 - 06:15 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Ground wires on front frame. They crack right above the connector. Turn your blinker on and move those ground wires and see if it comes on.
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Jim_williams
Posted on Monday, March 15, 2010 - 07:29 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I grounded in the rear near tail light. All seems well. It's just funny that it's only the right rear turn signal that doesn't work
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Towpro
Posted on Monday, March 15, 2010 - 07:50 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

When I read posts like this I have gotten in the habit of clicking on the requester's profile to see what bike he has.

I love it, Jim has an XP
cop shocks, cop motor...

I can even hear Elwood Blues saying it.

"What do you say, is this the new Bluesmobile, or what?"

Sorry, back on track now.
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Jim_williams
Posted on Monday, March 15, 2010 - 08:26 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

No, it's the BluesmoBUELL

And............... a great bike. Just that my right rear turn signal doesn't work anymore. I suppose it's not that big of a deal since the lightbar has the turn signal built in. Problem is it flashes really fast and just isn't "right"
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Itileman
Posted on Monday, March 15, 2010 - 10:43 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

The rapid flashing is often symptomatic of needing a relay, especially with LED lights.
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Jim_williams
Posted on Tuesday, March 16, 2010 - 06:22 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Are you saying the relay in the lightbar might be bad or the one on the bike? The lights on the lightbar work well, it's only the Uly right rear that is out, but, they all flash fast. Only on right though. If I use left turn signal all is normal. I'm pretty sure there is only one relay for the flashers, so, I'm not sure that's it but.....
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Etennuly
Posted on Tuesday, March 16, 2010 - 09:32 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

There is a triple splice in the steering neck bundle for the right turn signals. It is the brown wire to brown wires. It can break in the heat shrink wrap and not be seen until it is cut open. There is a red wire triple splice in there, the power lead for the front, that can also fail sometime down the road.

When mine went I replaced both of the triple splices in that area with a single lead extension up into the flyscreen area where I put the triple splice. That moved it to where they will not be flexing while steering.

But that should be a warranty fix in your case.
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Jim_williams
Posted on Tuesday, March 16, 2010 - 02:44 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

To make things even odder, I pulled the front bulb, while keeping the rear installed. When turning on the turn signal there was a loud almost grinding noise. Turn off turn signal and it went away. Did the same with the left turn signal, and, it didn't do anything.

What is this grinding? Related?
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Jim_williams
Posted on Thursday, March 18, 2010 - 06:36 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

still trying to figure this out if anyone has any ideas
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Ratbuell
Posted on Thursday, March 18, 2010 - 10:10 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Disassemble the signal itself. Pull the outer smoked lens, the inner amber lens, and the reflector out of the black housing. There's a super-small spade connector inside the housing, where the wire meets the bulb socket, that likes to unplug itself if the wires are fondled too much (like a disassembly / uninstallation / reinstallation).

If they're connected in there, check voltage at the wires. Start tracing back through the harness.

Reading your posts, you say "bulb" repeatedly - you are still using stock bulbs, and the only LEDs are in the new light bar, yes? If you changed to LEDs in the stock signals, you could have it wired backwards...

And yes, there is only one flasher relay, it's under the flyscreen.
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Jim_williams
Posted on Thursday, March 18, 2010 - 01:26 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

thanks RB. I'll give that a shot. All bulbs are stock other than the LED lightbar.

Is flasher relay a good/bad part? Seems it works or it doesn't. If it doesn't none of the bulbs would flash so can I rule that out?
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Ratbuell
Posted on Thursday, March 18, 2010 - 02:05 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Usually there's no gray area on the flasher, no. Works / doesn't work. Fast-flash sounds just like a bulb-out / no resistance found alert (the DOT designed that in, back in the late 70s - used to just come on and stay on if you had a dead bulb on the circuit and people didn't know they were missing a signal; they had the carmakers change it to the fast-flash alert so people check their lights).
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Jim_williams
Posted on Thursday, March 18, 2010 - 04:11 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

that was it. Positive wire came off at the signal. Thanks Rat! I owe you a beer.
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Natexlh1000
Posted on Thursday, March 18, 2010 - 06:02 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I love reading of a WIN!
Whooooo!
I love team motorcycle debug.
They should make it an Olympic sport.
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Ratbuell
Posted on Thursday, March 18, 2010 - 09:33 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Glad to help
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Jim_williams
Posted on Friday, March 19, 2010 - 05:49 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

forgot to mention when I pulled the rear auxiliary plate thingy out again to get at the wires from underneath the left signal popped out of the junction where the turn signals meet the main harness. I taped that up so that wouldn't happen again. Anyone that can get at these wires might want to do the same. It doesn't take much to pop them out.
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