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Atomictrent
Posted on Tuesday, January 12, 2010 - 09:41 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

New to board and looking for some input on what I can do to wring a little more out of my Uly. Sold my 06 KTM 950SM and moved into the Uly, first thing I noticed... its pretty much a dog. HELP!

I am wanting to do the exhaust/intake/remap. Any suggestions as to where and what is the best?
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Electraglider_1997
Posted on Tuesday, January 12, 2010 - 10:57 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Trade it in on an 06/07.
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Barker
Posted on Tuesday, January 12, 2010 - 11:13 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I would wait on Eric Buell Racing offerings in the tuner realm. IIRC some one said he would like to offer XB ECMs tuned for drummers.

You could use _______ Tuner Software to tune your 09. Some of the best pipes: Micron and Buell Pro Series are only available used. Drummers seem to be a favorite around here.

With the tuning you could run a open air box, but I don't think thats going to make a huge difference. I made my on open kit from existing parts and $1.50 of Lowes hardware.

(Message edited by barker on January 12, 2010)
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Froggy
Posted on Tuesday, January 12, 2010 - 11:14 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

What EG means is that the the 06/07 are less refined than the newer bikes, so because they are a little rougher running and have a more jerky throttle, they feel faster, despite having a lower top speed.
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Buewulf
Posted on Tuesday, January 12, 2010 - 11:38 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

The XB Motor is definitely on the slow side, in my opinion, and the issue is amplified by my subjective observation that it also feels slower than it actually is. Just not used to the power delivery and short powerband I guess. I actually hated the motor at first, but I got "acquainted" with it and learned how it liked to be ridden. Now, I like it a lot.

There is a pretty good review of various exhaust systems for the XB here: http://americansportbike.com/. Someone please correct me if I'm wrong, but I believed the fuel map can be reprogrammed for the 2008+ bikes with Direct Link. Also google this site for a thread on the "open airbox" mod for the intake. You will find plenty of opinions on this site.

If you are looking for 950SM power-to-weight ratio, however, it's probably going to take a little more than exhaust and remap. You may want to look at this thread: http://www.badweatherbikers.com/buell/messages/142 838/526401.html?1262639546.

For the record, I left mine stock. I value quiet operation and better filtration over the marginal(?) power increases from exhaust/intake mods. Just ECMSpy to refine the fuel maps is all I care to do. The bike exceeds my skill level anyway, so I don't really need more power. But it sure would be nice.
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Matchanu
Posted on Tuesday, January 12, 2010 - 12:23 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Hey Trent!

This is a great site for tech info, hope it serves you well.

FYI, Trent is a master bike builder, Atomic Customs.
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Wolfridgerider
Posted on Tuesday, January 12, 2010 - 01:07 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Welcome to BadWeb Jarhead!
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Hooper
Posted on Tuesday, January 12, 2010 - 03:32 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I dig your website...definitely my style of chop. One of these days...
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Ftd
Posted on Tuesday, January 12, 2010 - 05:46 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I remember seeing your Xianleather seat on Club Chopper. Nice bikes and great choice in seat maker.

I hope you enjoy the ULY. It is a fun bike.

Frank
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Ourdee
Posted on Tuesday, January 12, 2010 - 06:06 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

A track day will speed it up. I just figured I'd beat someone to the punch.
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Electraglider_1997
Posted on Tuesday, January 12, 2010 - 07:27 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Atomic,
Looked over your web pages. Nicely done bikes. Semper Fi.
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Atomictrent
Posted on Wednesday, January 13, 2010 - 09:30 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Thanks for the info and compliments!

So far I am digging the bike, just going to take a bit getting use to coming off that KTM.

Thanks again, great site!
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Matchanu
Posted on Wednesday, January 13, 2010 - 03:18 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

That KTM was scary fast, like getting punched in the guts when you snapped the thottle.
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Eulysses
Posted on Friday, January 29, 2010 - 02:00 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Based on your website pictures Trent...I would like to see what that Uly ends up looking like in a year or two!
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Teeps
Posted on Friday, January 29, 2010 - 09:01 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Free performance = Lose some weight; bike or body. Physics doesn't care....
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Methed
Posted on Saturday, January 30, 2010 - 11:58 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I've got an 06 with race can and ECM, open airbox, etc., but still am pushing for a bit more and going for the XB9 primary conversion this Spring. I'm not sure if you're looking for more low-end torque and control or just more speed, but the former sounds like a great addition to this bike from folks who have tried it. Not that it matters for me, but apparently it does not void warranty either.
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Tootal
Posted on Saturday, January 30, 2010 - 04:16 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I'm with Methed, XB9 primary made a huge difference in riding pleasure in the city and off road. It still pulls 120 on top so the question is what's fast enough for you.

I just love torque wheelies!
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Eulysses
Posted on Saturday, January 30, 2010 - 10:19 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Tootal...I got one but have not put it on until I spend a couple months here in AZ making sure I don't want the top end. Where do you find highway cruising rpm's and speed at? Is 85 a reasonable rpm?
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Froggy
Posted on Saturday, January 30, 2010 - 11:36 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

My bike will do 120 in second gear ; )
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Ourdee
Posted on Sunday, January 31, 2010 - 01:47 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Froggy, How many mph at redline in first?
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Froggy
Posted on Sunday, January 31, 2010 - 02:14 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

My mistake, 3rd gear. : )

1125R,Gear,1st,2nd,3rd,4th,5th,6th,
Engine speed (rpm),10500,Speed (mph),66.1,93.0,117.9,138.6,156.2,169.5,


1125CR,Gear,1st,2nd,3rd,4th,5th,6th,
Engine speed (rpm),10500,Speed (mph),60.9,85.7,108.6,127.7,143.9,156.2,
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Tootal
Posted on Sunday, January 31, 2010 - 09:45 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I can't give you 85 but 70 was 3400 and now it's 3800. 4000 is 75 now. My bike is smoother at 3800 than 3400 so cruising at 70 is nicer now. The fun part is when your on the interstate and need to get around some cager with a cell phone a quick twist and your around him so much faster than before. Your just closer to being, "on the cam" that there is no waiting.
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Eulysses
Posted on Sunday, January 31, 2010 - 11:35 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Thanks Tootal. Probably like losing a gear I would think. I appreciate your feedback...just ran down to Quartzsite from Parker AZ in the sun today...gusts to 100 mph passing motor homes. But 75 seemed a nice comfortable speed. You think 4000 rmp too high to cruise long distances? I know it feels nice too. Lot smoother.

Froggy...you are showing off! OK, maybe I need a CR. Wonder what it would take to Ulycize it. Nice two up seat, back bars...cruiser style. Nevermind...better stick with old paint.
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Froggy
Posted on Monday, February 01, 2010 - 02:16 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

It wouldn't take much, but the 1125R would be better with its decent wind protection and taller gearing.



Everything with the powerband is about 1k rpm higher than the XB12. Power starts to really kick in at 5k instead of 4k, cruising at 4k on the 1125 is like 3k on the XB12.
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Pso
Posted on Monday, February 01, 2010 - 11:14 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

froggy-Wish Hardley had Buell around long enough to give us that 1125GT. O rat least long enough for me to have had the cash and trade inmarket to get a 2010 Uly. or even XT.
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Tootal
Posted on Tuesday, February 02, 2010 - 09:07 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I usually run 5 over the limit when interstating it so around here the limit is 65 but when I'm heading down to Buelltoberfest I get to Kentucky and get to run 75 and it's smooth as silk there. Can't hurt anything there, the engines are near bulletproof up to 6000 rpm. This ain't your father's sportster!
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Eulysses
Posted on Wednesday, February 03, 2010 - 01:37 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Good to know Tootal. I don't like the tall low gear around town. Slipping clutch too much for my taste. Gotta cost me some day. Would be a lot nicer with a lower first gear and if 75 is nice and smooth and you can do it all day with decent economy (4000 rpm all day) then I am really leaning toward the XB9 set.
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Tootal
Posted on Wednesday, February 03, 2010 - 07:25 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

My mileage around here, 700'above sea level, is 48mpg at 70. From Dalton Georgia to Nashville at 75, and higher elevation, I got 51 mpg. That's with all bags plus two soft bags on the back seat.
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