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Ghostrider
Posted on Wednesday, December 16, 2009 - 01:15 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Last night, I left work at midnight and it was about mid-20 degrees outside. Bike had frost on it. When I attempted to start it, it was really rough, slow cranking and would not fire without some extra gas. Then, when it did start, it needed extra gas just to keep running. I revved it up to about 2K rpm and it was sputtering the whole time. After a moment, it would idle, but died a few times and backfired on restart. I let it run for several minutes, which never really got smooth. Finally, I started to ride away and it was really tough to get it going, needing extra gas to get it sputtering and backfiring along. It would not really rev over 3,500 and was slow the whole way. After six miles, it seemed to warm up a bit just before I pulled into my driveway.

I looked up this issue and found this thread:
http://www.badweatherbikers.com/cgibin/discus/show .cgi?tpc=142838&post=782570#POST782570

Are people still having this issue or have the dealers fixed it? Bought mine three weeks ago. Never had this problem with my Firebolt.
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Froggy
Posted on Wednesday, December 16, 2009 - 01:38 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Just reset the TPS, and if necessary set the idle to be a tad higher than the normal 1050rpm.
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Etennuly
Posted on Wednesday, December 16, 2009 - 04:25 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

You likely have fouled a plug. What year is the Uly? The thread you looked up is from '06, so I am presuming that it may be an '06. The only remedy for that is a new plug, easy to tell which one by the heat of the pipes.

Many of us have found that starting on a cold day like that requires very little throttle input, just enough to get it to run and idle, no revving attempts, then just let it idle for about three to five minutes or even longer if it is that cold. It seems like the more you try to make it run smooth, the more you mess it up. It will idle rougher than you think it should for the first few minutes, then it comes around to the normal idle shake when it is ready to go.

You have another problem for cold riding an '06 Ulysses. You need to go further. Six miles is enough miles to get the metals of the engine and transmission to draw moisture into the oils, but not enough to burn it off as steam out the oil vents. If you do this for a few weeks you will have coffee colored milkshake material for transmission fluid. Most of us have found that problem resolved by doing at least 15 miles every time out. Yeah, bummer when it is that cold!
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Ghostrider
Posted on Wednesday, December 16, 2009 - 06:25 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

It's an '09 with about 300 miles on it. I'm not really in the mood for coffee colored milkshake, so I guess I'm either taking the scenic route home or not riding in the cold.
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Froggy
Posted on Wednesday, December 16, 2009 - 06:37 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Vern, last winter in NY it was getting so cold that I got the milkshakes even after hour long rides. Even with a rag stuffed in my oil cooler the temperatures barley registered on my swingarm thermometer. I should of removed the left side scoop too. Good thing I had ECMspy to run a diagnostic on the fan, as I never heard it turn on even once in about 3000 miles.
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Etennuly
Posted on Thursday, December 17, 2009 - 08:03 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Froggy, have you ever let it idle until the fan comes on, before taking off? That could help getting the temps up enough to help.

Covering the oil cooler will help as well as the scoop intakes. If the fan starts running, just uncover them.
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Froggy
Posted on Thursday, December 17, 2009 - 02:08 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Vern, it would run out of gas before it got hot enough. With 25°F ambient temperatures, it doesn't need the fan. I need to roll the corpse bike outside and measure the temperatures to see how hot it gets.
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Eulysses
Posted on Thursday, December 17, 2009 - 02:21 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Wonder how we could do a plug-in for our XB's in the winter...with no water to circulate. I suppose this comes up every winter but to lazy to search.
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Etennuly
Posted on Thursday, December 17, 2009 - 02:45 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I don't recall where, but I have seen heated dip sticks.
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Supertoon
Posted on Thursday, December 17, 2009 - 03:59 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

You know your fat when you can't recall seeing your heated dipstick......












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