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Baybueller
Posted on Friday, December 11, 2009 - 09:56 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I curently own a 2k X1 and put 35k on an 03 XB with no problems.I placed an order for the new Ducati multistrada, and after more research found the maintenance to be more demanding.
Uly's have always interested me but the seat hight an steering limits have not been good.
The Duc has great numbers and many bells and whistles but I average 30k a year on combined bikes.
Looking for input on owners of both/either as the duc will be replacing a roadglide and klr.
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Uncleron
Posted on Friday, December 11, 2009 - 10:10 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Both. I ride a 2008 Uly, the seat height was only an issue for me on the first day I owned my bike, since then the Uly has easily become my favorite ride; I even replace my stock seat with a 2006 'tall' seat. I also put down a deposit on a 2010 Multistrada S which will be replacing my Ultra Classic.
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Baybueller
Posted on Friday, December 11, 2009 - 10:23 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Uncleron, I like to "flat track" in the loose stuff and the Uly I sat on said hi side. Also why a uly and multi? The joke is "Im not taking a 20k bike off road".
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Brucen
Posted on Friday, December 11, 2009 - 10:50 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I had a monster a few years ago. In terms of reliability it is as good as a Buell. You need to keep up with the maintenance, but doing your own is not that bad. The air cooled two-valve Ducatis are pretty easy to work on. The big difference is the valve adjustment. The procedure is different from other bikes with shim adjusted valves, but not that much harder. Cam belt replacement at the specified interval is important, but not hard to do. I put almost 30,000 miles on mine, and the only thing that broke in that time was an $8 relay. Dealers charge a lot for service, just like Buell. You can save by doing most of the work yourself.
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Baybueller
Posted on Friday, December 11, 2009 - 11:28 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Thanks Brysen, I do my own work but the Buells spoiled me for low maintenance.
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Uncleron
Posted on Friday, December 11, 2009 - 11:29 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I can't say enough good about the Uly, I just like it, the Uly is the best bike I have ridden. The height becomes a non issue after you ride a Uly for a day or so.
Sitting on a Uly and riding one are two different things; once you get moving, a Uly feels light and flickable.

Since HD shut down Buell I thought it would be good to have a backup so I can get around when I am waiting for parts. I do not own a car, so my bike is my transportation. I have been looking to trade my HD since they shut down Buell and the new Multi looks like the bike for me. I had been looking at the BMW GSA, but they are too heavy; the Duc should handle similar to a Uly with 50 more hp. If the Duc handles like I think it will, it should take me where I want to go.

A Uly and a Multi is just more of a good thing. If I can tour (anywhere) and kick the crap out of the local squids all on the same bike, I'm good.
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Baybueller
Posted on Friday, December 11, 2009 - 11:53 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

sorry Brucen i am still getting used to glasses. My big question is the steering stop. anyone that has played knows if you hit the stop you are off.
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Buellerxt
Posted on Saturday, December 12, 2009 - 12:10 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Why is the Uly 'steering stop' so short? Is there a reason, some advantage? It really surprised me. It hasn't effected my riding in any way but it limits movement when moving it around in the garage, etc.
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Dmmblaze
Posted on Saturday, December 12, 2009 - 03:26 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

get a motorcycle dolly.. limit in garage movement solved... if thats really an issue...
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Hughlysses
Posted on Saturday, December 12, 2009 - 04:31 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

The limited steering lock only applies to 2006 and 2007 X models and all XT's. 2008-2010 X's have different triple clamps and offset forks that allow greatly increased steering lock. Several guys have installed just the 2008-up triple clamps on 2006 or 2007 Ulys with great results. This does change the steering geometry (since they didn't also install the newer offset fork legs) but they report no problems.

BTW- the 08-up X's have larger diameter fork legs (47 vs 42 mm IIRC) but the fork legs are the same diameter where they pass through the triple clamps so the 08-up clamps will work with 06 or 07 forks.

I suspect when the Uly was originally designed they just didn't have time to re-engineer the steering system. Since they haven't made the change on the XT models I'd assume they think the steering lock is adequate for pure street riding.
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Paralegalpete
Posted on Saturday, December 12, 2009 - 06:07 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I've never rident a Ducati, but this person did

http://www.motorcyclistonline.com/features/122_070 7_buell_ulysses_ducati_multistrada_1000_ds/index.h tml
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Trevd
Posted on Saturday, December 12, 2009 - 09:38 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I have an '08 XT with the limited steering lock, and while at first I felt a bit limited by it, after about a week or two, I just got used to it. I ride mainly on the street. Now I hardly ever notice it, except when I'm turning the bike around in the garage or the driveway. Then it becomes an issue, but only a minor one.

I guess I've adjusted to it, and can do U-turns on little roads now with no issues.
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Paint_shaker
Posted on Saturday, December 12, 2009 - 10:12 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

"anyone that has played knows if you hit the stop you are off."

Proper use of throttle/clutch/rear brake & skill can normaly prevent an "off".
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Baybueller
Posted on Saturday, December 12, 2009 - 12:36 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Yes, its embaressing, 40 years of daily riding and I still have not figured that whole "control" thing out.
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Tootal
Posted on Saturday, December 12, 2009 - 06:11 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I have an 06 but changed the trees to the 08's. I love it. Also changed the primary to the XB9 ratio allowing slower speeds off road and wheelies whenever!! Now it's much better in city traffic or climbing a Jeep trail.
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Hooper
Posted on Saturday, December 12, 2009 - 06:35 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Baybueller/Uncleron: when do they say your new Multis will be in for pickup?
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12bolt
Posted on Saturday, December 12, 2009 - 11:59 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Neither, I love my Uly but with BMC shut down I would get an 800GS
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Florida_lime
Posted on Sunday, December 13, 2009 - 05:43 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Baybueller/Uncleron: when do they say your new Multis will be in for pickup?

Can't speak for them, but April is the target date.

So I'd say to expect them in May.
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Baybueller
Posted on Sunday, December 13, 2009 - 09:54 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

The dealer suggested the Italian folks operate on a different clock so I hope Florida Lime is correct.
I also checked all the dealers in my area and no XTs to be found.
As a suprise each dealer identified their selves as HD/Buell.
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Dr_greg
Posted on Sunday, December 13, 2009 - 11:29 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Anyone know if the 1198 engine in the new MTS uses plain or ball/roller bearings (like HD)?

I put 41,000 miles on my '92 Ducati 900SS (most satisfying bike ever before the Uly), then it fragged a (ball) main bearing and I did a complete rebuild.

The 2-valve Duc engine had plain rod bearings, but ball main bearings.

I'm assuming---with a much higher power output---the 4-valve Ducatis have plain bearings throughout.

--Doc
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Cityxslicker
Posted on Sunday, December 13, 2009 - 12:43 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

If you are worried about seat height, the TT is an inch shorter front and rear, and anybody that still has one will be dying to sell it.
Of course you could off road with an XB as well ; ) My dirty bug has 36k on it, a third of it is dirt, but it is where all my fun seems to be.

If the O3 is a Lightning... bars, suspension upgrade, lights, luggage, knobbies... saving ten to twenty K? priceless.

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Baybueller
Posted on Sunday, December 13, 2009 - 05:17 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

The 03 was a Low and couldnt clear most speedbumps. Its gone but not forgotten. 7 years riding and it was just oil/tires. Least maintenance of any bike I have owned.
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