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Dynasport
Posted on Saturday, November 14, 2009 - 02:48 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I have reviewed several threads, but I am still confused. I do not have the tools nor the knowledge to bend or cut bars to fit my Uly but I am looking to put some additional driving lights on my XT. Does anyone make any mounting brackets? I saw in some old thread that GME made a nice bar for the X, but he has not been on this site in over a year I don't think. Does anyone know if he still makes them or if they fit the XT anyway?

If anyone has any info on easily mounting some lights I'd really appreciate it.

Thanks
Dan
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Froggy
Posted on Saturday, November 14, 2009 - 02:57 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

The GME bar will fit the XT, only issue you will have is the headlight position screw. If you don't want to use the "beak", you would need to drill a hole in the GME bar for the adjustment screw.

I wonder if he still makes them, its an excellent bar, and I need to replace mine after my wreck.

(Message edited by froggy on November 14, 2009)
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Ratbuell
Posted on Saturday, November 14, 2009 - 05:32 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Do what I did.

1125CR mirrors with turn signals built in
LED flasher from American Sport Bike
Aux lights mounted to the holes vacated by the OEM turn signal stalks.
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Gamdh
Posted on Saturday, November 14, 2009 - 06:58 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I just put these on today

High output LED's

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Fung
Posted on Saturday, November 14, 2009 - 07:00 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

i got the Palmer set up and dig it
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Sprintex
Posted on Saturday, November 14, 2009 - 07:04 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

So tell us about the high output LED's.
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Motorfish
Posted on Saturday, November 14, 2009 - 07:12 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

How is the view in the 1125CR mirrors? Better than the Uly mirrors?
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Firstbatch
Posted on Saturday, November 14, 2009 - 07:14 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)



Optronics from Wal-mart....$16 on a simple stud mount to the fender bolt location. Uses the MR16 halogen lamp that is available in many wattages and beam spread. Stock is 55 deg flood at 50 watt and is mega bright. Option 24 deg spread is good too. MR16 lamps are available in LED but a bit pricey. Cool thing about MR16 lamps is they are cheap and available everywhere.

Mounting the lights low gives a great visibility "triangle" to oncoming motorist.
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Gamdh
Posted on Saturday, November 14, 2009 - 07:27 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Got them from Clearwater Lights to replace my Trail Tech HIDs. I wanted something that would draw little power but very visible. I want them as low as possible to create a light triangle. They have just created a kit for Buell's....

These are bright and only draw about 1 amp. I am also convinced they will be much more durable then the Trail Techs.



If your really bored.. you can check the pics in the gallery I created

http://gamdh.smugmug.com/Motorcycles/ClearWaterLig hts/10314905_JLSYp/1/712896795_tsVo7
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Itileman
Posted on Saturday, November 14, 2009 - 08:16 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Optronics from Wmt mounted on the XP auxillary lighting frame (about $31.00 from the dealer). I had to get a piece of aluminum bar stock about an inch wide and 1/8 thick, drill out the holes for the lights and to mount to the XP frame to get the lights out from the bike a bit. They won't fit inside the frame. The lights are bright and good for conspicuity and lighting up the sides of the road. Pattern is too diffuse for fog. These, along with the Slyvania 4100 Bright White headlamp bulbs do light up the night.

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Ratbuell
Posted on Saturday, November 14, 2009 - 09:52 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I like the CR mirrors. They still vibrate...but they're not round lollipops like the stockers so there's more field of vision besides just shoulder.
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Motorfish
Posted on Saturday, November 14, 2009 - 11:24 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I like the built in blinkers. Leaves a great place to mount extra lighting.
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Ratbuell
Posted on Saturday, November 14, 2009 - 11:29 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)





The aux lights have cateye rings wired to ignition, so they're "different" even when they're not on. And when they're on...whooo-boy, are they ON. Plain ol' Hellas off an automotive website that escapes me at the moment. $55 with wiring and relay.
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Cyclonedon
Posted on Sunday, November 15, 2009 - 12:35 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

try the Palmer spot light mounting kit.

http://palmerproducts.auto.officelive.com/buellxb1 2x.aspx
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Bobbuell1961
Posted on Sunday, November 15, 2009 - 07:41 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Ratbuell, the Cr mirrors look right a home on the Uly, i hate them on the Cr,any chance of a riders view?
Did you have any problem w/ the flash rate? do you still have stock on the rear?
reread post and answered my own ?, did you use flasher #16086?
thanks,Bob
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Dynasport
Posted on Sunday, November 15, 2009 - 08:15 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Thanks everybody, lots of good options. That Palmer bracket is just what I was looking for. It looks very similar to GME's bracket. I think maybe I will put some money aside and order the light bracket and the windshield bracket at the same time.

Now I just have to decide if I want to spend big dollars on PIAA lights or go cheap with Wal-Mart lights. I know for most of you wiring the lights in is super simple, but I am not that great with that kind of thing so I am sure before I actually do the install I will be posting lots more questions. It's great to have a resource like BW.
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Mikef5000
Posted on Sunday, November 15, 2009 - 09:45 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

With either lights make sure you use a relay. I went with Walmart lights on my old bike and they worked quite well. My new bikes just get HID's and have no need for fogs (although that's not to say I won't add some).


I want almost everything listed on that Palmer website!
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Hangetsu
Posted on Sunday, November 15, 2009 - 12:59 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I like the LED for visibility to on-coing traffic, but how is the light projection compared to the Train-Tech HIDs or even 55W Halogen spots like PIAAs?
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Gamdh
Posted on Sunday, November 15, 2009 - 01:48 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Hangetsu.... don't know yet as I have not tried the LEDs in the dark. Will probably get to on the way home from work on Monday.

LEDs vs Trail tech

I had the trail techs (MR11's by the way) pointed down so I can run them all the time, so they did not light up 'down' the road that much. My main goal for the lights is to make me more visible with minimum power draw. That way in the winter when I have heated gear, I don't have to choose between heat and light.

The trail techs only drew about 1amp each, but I have issues with their durability in the configuration I had them. I got lumalink mounts and lights and had them configured to hang down to create more of the light triangle. Thats works .. except that as I found out they can get water in them when they hang down with the wire pointing up. Good news trail tech replace the internal 2 time... they also said it was not recommended to hang them upside down, but if you do.. you can put some silicon around the wire to seal it. That does seem to work.

But each time I sent them back it was about a 3wk turn around. I could tell the difference.. I had more people pull out in front of me during that 3 wks than the previous 6 months.

So, the bottom line is I'm pretty confidant that the LEDs will last longer, be cheaper to maintain and don't suffer from some of the issues of self contained HIDs.

For my purposes, if the LED's light up the road... thats a bonus not a prerequisite.

On a side note the LED's actually have a dimmer so you can simply dial up or down the intensity ....

Oh...And if anyone wants some lumalink fork mounts with our with out TT MR11... I have some I willing to let go...

Sorry for rambling...
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Strada
Posted on Sunday, November 15, 2009 - 02:02 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

In case a picture helps...........

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Ratbuell
Posted on Sunday, November 15, 2009 - 02:39 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Bobbuell - I went with the American Sport Bike relay, yep. Rears are homemade red LED, from a police light (Federal Signal Cuda TriOptic - name bigger than the light, LOL). The American Sport Bike relay will drive stock incandescents, no problem. Instead of load-based flash (electrical resistance thru a bulb), it's strictly time-based, so it'll flash anything regardless of load.

I'll see if I can get a rider pic for ya. Kim took some from the backseat at Last Ride, but I think they're all shoulder-and-above...but I'll check.
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Hangetsu
Posted on Sunday, November 15, 2009 - 03:16 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Gamgh,
Not at all. your rambling is packed with good info. I've been planning on getting the PIAA Cross COuntries, which are made by Trail Tech. I haven't heard anything about their durability, but they are pretty expensive, so there may not be that many out on the road.
For me, lighting up the road is of primary concern. I live in CO and ride year round. Deer and other critters crossing the roads is a big issue. I actually almost got taken down by a family of Raccoons crossing the highway a couple of months back. I'm sure that with a pair of good HID spots, I would have seen them long before I did.
Thanks for the info. Please let us know about the light projection of your LEDs after you've tried them out.
Cheers.
A-
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Gamdh
Posted on Sunday, November 15, 2009 - 03:30 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Hangetsu

I saw those PIAA's.. thought they looked familiar. Both a friend of mine and myself have the TT MR11's.. both of us have had to send them back for new ballast/ignitor several times over the last year. I takes a while for them to get them back.. the good news was they covered it under warrenty even thought they were out of warrenty. Given that, its possible you will have periods where you don't have one or both of the HIDs....

One thing someone (who knows a lot about lights) pointed to me was that one potental issue with the TT design is that they will get too hot and potentially fail prematurely since all the heat generating elements are in a very small closed space.... they do not have any way to vent the heat.

Overall, (when they worked) I was happy with the performance of the TT HID's... I just don't want to contiue to have to send them back 1 or 2 times a year for internal stuff. Bulbs you can change... but TT makes you return them for the internal stuff.

Hopefully PIAA has made some improvements of the original TT design.

Just some food for thought...
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7873jake
Posted on Sunday, November 15, 2009 - 03:47 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Ratbuell,

What are those rearviews off of or are they aftermarket? Got a link to more info or pictures of your efforts?


Jake
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Hangetsu
Posted on Sunday, November 15, 2009 - 04:35 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Those are 1125CR rearviews.
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Bobbuell1961
Posted on Sunday, November 15, 2009 - 06:07 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

probably a little overkill but they light up the night!
i also hooked them up with a rely to light when i hit the horn

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Ratbuell
Posted on Sunday, November 15, 2009 - 06:15 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Bobbuell - I was thinking of doing the same thing, a relay to turn on aux lights or high beam with horn use. How did you wire it up?
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Bobbuell1961
Posted on Sunday, November 15, 2009 - 06:42 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

if i remember correctly i added a relay between the relay for my stebel horn and the light relay. i don't recall if i split the horn trigger or power to the horn but i think the former would be better although both would work and used that to trigger the intermediate relay sending power to the lights.
hope i did'nt confuse too much,Bob
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Mikef5000
Posted on Monday, November 16, 2009 - 12:19 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Here's how you could wire them to flash with the horn.

The first (left) relay is your standard on/off for the lights, and then the second relay would be to flash with the horn. where my picture says "Splice to high beams" is where you would actually splice it to the horn wire.



EDIT! I forgot I changed one part of that diagram after the I drew it up. On the first (left) relay, change the location of the switch from the red wire, to either the black (relay ground) or blue (relay switched) wire. Then you're good to go!

(Message edited by mikef5000 on November 16, 2009)
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Jackfis
Posted on Monday, November 16, 2009 - 02:37 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Terminator lights (Hella HID)

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