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Froggy
Posted on Monday, November 09, 2009 - 10:23 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)


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I am going to have to worry if it is going to fail and make road pizza out of us? Geez....




The odds are higher that soccer mom in the SUV will do it first.


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How about the 'other' parts/part numbers, needed besides the wheel kit?




You just need the stuff to mount the sprocket and rotor to the new wheel, as they are 1 time use.

Stolen from Court's thread:
Part No.Description# RequiredTotal Cost
6400HBWasher65.40
AA0609.11CXZBScrew - GR8 - 3/8-16X1-1/8618.89
CA0005.9A7Screw - 5/16 Brake Rotor610.80
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Buellerxt
Posted on Monday, November 09, 2009 - 10:29 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Thanks Froggy,

I just went back and re-read that portion of Court's thread and was going to ask if those screws are the ones that attach the rotor and pulley/sprocket. Thanks a lot and it was sure good to see they make the wheel kit with the black wheel. Ths.
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Court
Posted on Tuesday, November 10, 2009 - 06:41 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

The BLACK wheel is NOT the X wheel is it?

Be sure to use new hardware.

I have ALL 2010 manuals, shop, owner, service and diagnostic, if you have questions.
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Hughlysses
Posted on Tuesday, November 10, 2009 - 07:28 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Court- could you post the info on torquing the axle if it's different from 2006-2009 and especially on the process for replacing a belt with the 2010 wheel?

The wide shoulder at the sprocket end of the new axle is twice as wide as 2006-2009 arrangement. It seems like we'll have to loosen it more than 25 turns to get the axle past the wide portion to relieve tension from the belt. It also seems like this may preclude a roadside/on-both-wheels belt change as well, as the threads may completely disengage the swingarm once the axle is loosened enough to get past the shoulder. I'm very interested to see what the shop manual says about it.
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Rwven
Posted on Tuesday, November 10, 2009 - 07:55 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

The odds are higher that soccer mom in the SUV will do it first.

I don't take much comfort from those odds....
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Ratbuell
Posted on Tuesday, November 10, 2009 - 09:18 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

The odds are higher that soccer mom in the SUV will do it first.

I don't take much comfort from those odds....


Nor do I...but it's because of the soccermom, not the bearings. : )
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Rwven
Posted on Tuesday, November 10, 2009 - 09:31 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Nor do I...but it's because of the soccermom, not the bearings.

No joke! While I am not a big fan of the design of the wheel bearings, the problem is manageable. Soccer mommed SUVs on the other hand....
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Buewulf
Posted on Tuesday, November 10, 2009 - 10:06 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

it's because of the soccermom, not the bearings.

I'll second that. There isn't much in the way of preventative maintenance one can do to mitigate the idiocy of others.
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Rwven
Posted on Tuesday, November 10, 2009 - 10:23 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Which black is the XT wheel? Villian or Pirahna?
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Hooper
Posted on Tuesday, November 10, 2009 - 10:32 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

"I'll second that. There isn't much in the way of preventative maintenance one can do to mitigate the idiocy of others."

Airhorns help a little...I love my Stebel.

(Message edited by hooper on November 10, 2009)
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Ratbuell
Posted on Tuesday, November 10, 2009 - 11:06 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I'll second that. There isn't much in the way of preventative maintenance one can do to mitigate the idiocy of others.

Well....in Maryland at least, it's only brandishing until you pull the trigger...but then there's just so much paperwork and court time involved....
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Buellerxt
Posted on Tuesday, November 10, 2009 - 01:13 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Rwven,
I believe, am 'almost' sure but not quite, that it is Villian. I believe the 08', 09', and 10's are Villian Black wheels. Can anyone confirm? Ths.

(Message edited by BuellerXT on November 10, 2009)
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Froggy
Posted on Tuesday, November 10, 2009 - 01:25 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Yes Villain is the most common black, and is what your wheels are. Piranha is the more textured black that the 2010 frames use, and the 1125CR rims.
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Buellerxt
Posted on Tuesday, November 10, 2009 - 08:12 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Froggy,
I had a big dealer tell me today that they called Harley on the Villian Wheel Kit and were told that it won't be available until January. In the meantime, they were told, the wheel and individual parts can be ordered. Is that what you have heard?
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Froggy
Posted on Tuesday, November 10, 2009 - 08:21 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I haven't heard anything, nor can I check, I don't work for a dealer and don't have access to the parts systems. There is where I step down, and let the "Pros" take over : )
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Buellerxt
Posted on Tuesday, November 10, 2009 - 08:40 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Ths. Froggy. It is probably correct. The dealer is a reputable one. Just curious. I can wait and besides, my bike is running GREAT!

Okay, here is a tough one. I know there are tons of threads on the bearing problem but is there one that pin points the main problems? For example, do bikes ridden in dry weather, only on asphalt, and never have water sprayed toward the bearings, fail? I'm just curious whether some go 50,000+ miles w/o a rear wheel bearing failure and if there are, have they have been analyzed for conditions, etc. Ths.

(Message edited by BuellerXT on November 10, 2009)
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Froggy
Posted on Tuesday, November 10, 2009 - 08:53 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Some have done 50k without issues, some don't even get 5k. No real link was found, but it seems riding in the rain doesn't help with bearing life.
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Blasterd
Posted on Tuesday, November 10, 2009 - 08:53 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

For those of you that have had bearing failures could you give us that have not a rundown on what to look for, and what happens when it fails.
Thx
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Paralegalpete
Posted on Tuesday, November 10, 2009 - 09:17 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Mine failed at the end of a day long ride, earlier in the day I had heard a few squeaks, but they seemed to go away.

I examined the bearings and could not see any damage, and could not feel any heat.

When the bearing finally did seize the bike became unrideable. The front end was shaking and the the whole bike felt really unstable. The bearing now had disintigrated and was obvious with a quick visual inspection
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Buellerxt
Posted on Tuesday, November 10, 2009 - 09:34 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

How many miles, Pete? Had the bike seen a lot of heavy rains, high pressure washes, etc? I don't head out in the rain locally but do get caught in it sometimes. I take a couple long rides (4000 miles ish) each year and sometimes ride through heavy rains then. I never power wash or stream cross. The vast majority of my riding is on dry asphalt. Trying to decide on a wheel replacement. Ths.
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Paralegalpete
Posted on Wednesday, November 11, 2009 - 06:13 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

How many miles, Pete? Had the bike seen a lot of heavy rains, high pressure washes, etc?

see this post
http://www.badweatherbikers.com/buell/messages/142 838/512818.html?1257911409
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