| Author | Message | ||
     Zt730 |
Is it normal to have to start at least 2 times when the temp is below 50 degrees F? Its been between 30 and 45 in the morning when I leave for work, so I changed the oil over to 10w40 per the manual. And while it does seem to crank easier, it still takes at least 2 starts. | ||
| Electraglider_1997 |
What rpms does it idle at when it is fully warmed? Should be around 1000 rpms. Maybe you need new plugs. Your bike is fuel injected and if you are a stop light throttle blipper then you may be fouling the plugs. ECM controlled bikes do not like throttle blippers because they don't know what is going on and will carbon up the plugs with too rich a mixture. Just let her idle at stops and your plugs will last forever. | ||
| Froggy |
By starts, you mean it starts, idles for a few seconds fine then dies? | ||
| Zt730 |
Thanks for the suggestions. It idles where it should when warmed up and the plugs are fine. I don't blip the throttle and always let it warm up for several minutes before riding to avoid fouling plugs. Sometimes it will start and idle for a second and die. Other times it will sound like its starting, so I will stop cranking but it immediately dies (when it does this, it is usually after several seconds of cranking with no fire). The bike has been in the shop for most of the last 6 months to solve a hard start problem. It's a long story... anyways I thought it was finally solved, but now that the weather is getting colder its doing this. My bike has never run right in the cold weather, so I don't know whats normal. So I'm trying to determine if the problem is coming back... or if this is just a characteristic of the motor. When the motor is warm, or if the temp outside is above 50-60 it seems to start fine... so far... So I take it that its not normal to require at least 2 starts on cold mornings? | ||
| Froggy |
Not normal. Perhaps its an issue with the IAC or ECM. Hard to say for sure off hand. | ||
| Zt730 |
Ok, good to know. I'm getting really worried about this because this is pretty much how the whole problem started in the very beginning, and it got worse and worse (eventually it wasn't running right, coughing out the airbox randomly and bogging down on acceleration). I went without my bike pretty much all spring and summer with the exception of a few weeks here and there when it came back from the shop only to find it still wasn't running right. I never got to do any of my trips this year. Its been to two different dealerships. The whole top end was rebuilt. Endless tests were run, multiple parts were replaced or swapped for testing. I've been extremely patient and supportive of both dealerships. They both seem to know what they are doing... not to mention they've had people fly out from the factory to look at it.. etc etc... I'm worried that this problem is going to haunt this bike until its out of warranty and then I'm going to be stuck with a bike that's doesn't run and isn't worth anything. Has anyone ever dealt with a lemon? I have no idea what to do... | ||
| Tootal |
I spent a summer trying to fix intake manifold leaks. They can be temperature sensitive so you might get it started and check for leaks. | ||
| Bcmike |
I live in the same climatic area as you north of 49. Lately on cold mornings my nearly new XT will start, chug for a bit then stall. It will restart, idle rough for a second then is fine. No problem on warm mornings. I assumed this was normal.  | ||
| Kansas |
Have your battery checked. I was having a similar issue, had my battery checked. Turns out my battery was c-r-@-p. Got a new battery. Got a new bike. Starts and runs like a Stallion!! Long Live Riverfront Harley!!! | ||
| Reepicheep |
Stupid question... but do you wait for the fuel pump to cycle back off before turning it over? On my 05 9sx, if if I turn it over when the pump is still running, it won't reliably start the first time every time. If I wait for the fuel pump to pump up and shut down, it almost always starts with the first blip. | ||
| Zt730 |
Intake leaks were checked for both by me and the dealership. The dealership even replaced the entire throttle body. The battery has also been swapped. My starting procedure goes along the lines of: Turn key to on position, wait for gauges to sweep. Flip kill switch to on position, wait for fuel pump to stop and engine light to go out. Then push starter button. Pretty much everything relevant has been swapped on this bike. It spent months upon months in the shop with multiple techs going over the entire thing. This has been an ongoing problem since the beginning of the year... I think its time for me to call Buell directly and see if I can work something out with them. Thanks for the input guys. | ||
| Eulysses |
You might be gun shy Z. My new 09 is doing a double start now that it has turned cold. Just started doing it. | ||
| Blake |
TPS Reset. for '08 & later owners: To do a TPS reset on '08 and '09 bikes 1. Switch the Run/Stop switch to the Run position. 2. Turn ignition key on. 3. With the engine off, rotate the throttle grip from the closed throttle position to the wide open throttle position and back to closed position 3 times moderately holding the throttle grip against each stop for one full second. 4. Cycle the key off and back on. | ||
| Jphish |
Blake - some discussion on TPS reset suggests the engine should be warm when performed. Couldn't find anything in the manual that speaks to this question. Any 'experienced' based suggestion from you folks? Thanks, j | ||
| Eulysses |
What Jphish said and why do we do this again? What does it fix? Grasssiass. |
