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Tginnh
| | Posted on Friday, October 09, 2009 - 01:45 pm: | 
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It would be interesting to know how many Buell owners used to own are still do own Harley's
None for me. Never have. Never will unless HD becomes something entirely different from their current incarnation.
My next bike will most likely be a Triumph.
Triumph has an incredible line of models - 2-3 that I would own tomorrow if $$$ wasn't an issue.
On a rare occasion, I pine for my old British bikes, but then I remember how much maintenance went into them and the nostalgia passes. |
Tiltcylinder
| | Posted on Friday, October 09, 2009 - 01:54 pm: |
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Is still have my '71 ironhead (love it / won't part with it), It's a 'real' motorcycle... cantankerous, carburated, leaks, solid mounted so it all vibrates in unison, assembled from the frame up in my apartment's kitchen. When I ride it, it reminds me how far we've come... it's little more than a bicycle with an engine... raw, rough and sometimes scary. Traded in the '07 sportster on the '09 XT and couldn't be happier. Used to recommend the Blast as an alternative to the little Rebel 250's, I liked those bikes, but, I've always liked small displacement bikes... just because. |
Ulykan
| | Posted on Friday, October 09, 2009 - 02:43 pm: |
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It would be interesting to know how many Buell owners used to own are still do own Harley's
My previous two rides were Sportsters and I truly enjoyed them tremendously. Back in the 60s and 70s I owned two Triumphs and a BSA Rocket III. I too long for the old Triumphs as they were what motorcycling is/was all about. Yes, they leaked oil and had terrible electrics but they were fun to ride and I loved the look and sound. Today's Triumphs aren't the same bike at all; only the look is similar. My Sportys were great bikes and I loved them too. If I can ever get my Uly running right I'm sure I'll enjoy it more. Until then I still long for my other bikes. The Uly is great but it is frought with problems that so far can't be identified. |
Bttrthnwrk
| | Posted on Friday, October 09, 2009 - 03:34 pm: |
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Tginnh> None for me. Never have. Never will unless HD becomes something entirely different from their current incarnation.
I pretty much agree. When I walk in the Harley dealership, it's like I'm stepping into a forest of things I just don't care about. Guess I'm just not "green" where Harley's concerned. Oops.
Both my sons have Bobs, one's a Street, the other's got one of the other Bobs, Fat, or Billy, or Joe, whatever. Both of them look like impressive bikes. Neither one does anything for me, though. I guess they're safe from having me borrow them.
On the other hand, I still have the Suzuki M50 I got back into biking on a few years ago. I have to actually make time to ride it (every Tuesday and Thursday!), but I do, and it's enough different from my Uly to be very noticable. Not entirely in bad ways, either - just different. Unfortunately, I can't begin to describe why that one still works for me and the kid's Harley Bob's don't. Maybe I'm just different now than I was a couple of years ago. |
Tginnh
| | Posted on Friday, October 09, 2009 - 03:40 pm: |
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Today's Triumphs aren't the same bike at all; only the look is similar
Agreed. That's a good thing. If they were still the bike they "were" then they wouldn't be around anymore and would have gone the way of BSA and Norton.
Retro styling with modern electrics and precision engineering. I'll take it any day to my old 67 Bonny.
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Blake
| | Posted on Friday, October 09, 2009 - 06:28 pm: |
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Like I said, why anyone feels the need to go out of their way to badmouth a motorcycle brand is one of the really queer things about some folks that I'll never understand.
If the shoe fits...
bigot (noun):
One who is strongly partial to one's own group, religion, race, or politics and is intolerant of those who differ.
Excerpted from The American Heritage Dictionary of the English Language
Pretty much anyone who goes around badmouthing that which he/she doesn't happen to personally prefer, yeah, that's a bigot.
Tginnh (whatever your real name is),
"Common theme here, Slinky - if you write anything that Blake takes offense to, sooner or later you will be denounced as a a bigot by him. It's his favorite word. Oh, he usually throws "suck" in there as well. He deserves credit for his consistency. I'm sure he will flame me now for being some manner of bigot - probably a Blake bigot. "
If you would like to start a thread to gossip about me, that is fine, please have at it, but this is not that thread, so please avoid such miserableness here and in other threads. Stick to the topic. If you don't like being identified as a bike bigot, then stop being one. Pretty darn simple. |
Slinky
| | Posted on Friday, October 09, 2009 - 06:39 pm: |
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I wonder if anyone would put up much fuss if someone was bagging on Yamaha. |
Hooper
| | Posted on Friday, October 09, 2009 - 11:50 pm: |
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Arrgghhh! My Yamaha V-Star 650 Classic was such a great bike, but DAMN if it didn't inspire me! |
Ulykan
| | Posted on Saturday, October 10, 2009 - 12:32 am: |
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I know that my old Triumph was unreliable and vibrated a lot but I loved it anyway. That bike really spoke to me, it had a soul. I almost bought a new Triumph but the Sporty was more bike for the $. It spoke to me too as did my second one. Right now I'm still listening to see if my Uly will speak to me. Triumphs will always have a place in my heart. It was the first real motorcycle I ever owned. |
Thespive
| | Posted on Saturday, October 10, 2009 - 02:38 am: |
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My first bike was a Sportster that I bought new and Cafe'd.
--Sean |
Tginnh
| | Posted on Saturday, October 10, 2009 - 07:28 am: |
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Ulykan - I can relate to your sentiments. I owned my 67 Bonneville for 25 years. It was my only transportation many times during my youth.
But, times change and so did I. I found my 3 british bikes had become garage queens and decided one by one that they needed new homes. They all found proper ones.
Curious - how was a sportster more bike for the $$$? Which Triumph were you looking at and what were the relative costs? |
Tginnh
| | Posted on Saturday, October 10, 2009 - 07:44 am: |
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Blake - you make crap up.
...intolerant of those who differ.
Point to anywhere in this thread where I wrote something that was intolerant of others who differ from my opinion.
You can't, because I didn't.
You simply like to hammer those with whom you disagree and disdain. That's fine by me. But you might want to line up your ducks before you flame someone for something they never wrote.
What I find really "queer" is when someone makes a false claim without any evidence and proceeds to toss around vitriolic hyperbole as if their denunciations where proof in of themselves.
Tginner,
"vitreolic hyperbole"
Sounds pretty cool. I did that?
vitreolic (adjective): bitterly scathing, caustic
hyperbole (noun): A figure of speech in which exaggeration is used for emphasis or effect, as in I could sleep for a year or This book weighs a ton.
Excerpted from The American Heritage Dictionary of the English Language
Just wondering, where did I employ a bitterly scathing/caustic figure of speech using exaggeration for effect?
I made a "false claim"? Really? What did I claim that is false? I'd like to know, so that I may correct the record. I hate falsehood.
If you aren't a bigot, then good on you. I did not claim that you are a bigot, at least not in this thread. Can't say for any others. From your indignant reaction to my use of the word, I assumed that I had. My mistake.
I don't do ducks. Neither do I conceal my identity. Trolls do that sort of thing. I do have a knack for getting rid of trolls.
Your insistence on polluting the thread yet again is problematic. Final warning, drop the miserableness or be shown the door. Your choice.
(Message edited by blake on October 10, 2009) |
Ulykan
| | Posted on Saturday, October 10, 2009 - 11:08 am: |
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Curious - how was a sportster more bike for the $$$? Which Triumph were you looking at and what were the relative costs?
I went to the Triumph dealer first, thinking that the HD name would put the Sporty out of my price range, and walked out the door with a sales contract unsigned. It was a 2003 Bonneville in January 2004 and the dealer was selling it to me at "cost" which turned out to be over $8K by the time he added shipping from UK $500 and it was a 750cc engine. After getting home I went online to the HD home page and priced new Sportys. A new 04 1200R was under $9 and current year model. When I went to the dealer they had a beautiful red 1200R in the showroom and it beckoned to me. Next thing you know I was signing papers to take her home. She and I were together for 14K funtastic miles before a black 06 came along and I fell in love with the brunette and traded the redhead in on her. |
Cyclonedon
| | Posted on Saturday, October 10, 2009 - 11:43 am: |
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I have owned many Harley-Davidsons. Each one was a spectacular motorcycle. I will likely own another someday. My goal is to be like Ferris when I grow up.
EVERYONE want's to be like Ferris when they grow up! |
Blake
| | Posted on Saturday, October 10, 2009 - 12:01 pm: |
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I'd like to have a nice new Road King or Road Glide for those lazy days when I just feel like cruising leisurely. |
Tginnh
| | Posted on Saturday, October 10, 2009 - 12:40 pm: |
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You're a bully, Blake.
I never back down from bullies.
Quite the god complex you have going with your admin abilities over this site.
Good for you. Knock yourself out and give me the boot.
I hope it's cathartic for you.
You're a troll. As you wish. It's not fun for me or cathartic. It is a hassle dealing with trolls like you who refuse to honor a simple request, preferring instead to turn a thread into a personal commentary about me rather than stick to the topic at hand. As I previously requested, if that is what you are about, if talking about me is what gets you off, then please start a separate thread for it. You continue to refuse; your choice. Fine by me.
Blake
PS: I post here to avoid adding yet another argumentative distraction to the thread.
(Message edited by blake on October 10, 2009) |
Frito
| | Posted on Saturday, October 10, 2009 - 01:19 pm: |
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It would be interesting to know how many Buell owners used to own are still do own Harley's
I owned a HD before buying my first Buell (97 M2), still own a HD and just bought an XT. Different tools for different jobs. My bagger excels at what it does. It has good protection, a sound system, storage, plush seating, the ability to chew up 800-1000 miles in a day, and still leave me able to walk. The XT shares some traits, but does other things too. The way I see it is "You ride your bike, I'll ride mine. I don't care what you ride, just *that* you ride." |
Murraebueller
| | Posted on Saturday, October 10, 2009 - 01:26 pm: |
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C'mon guys, chill- it's Blake's house, so he gets to make the rules.
As far as Harley's go, we have an '89 Heritage in the garage with all of our Buells. My wife bought it new in '89 and it has 140k miles and is still a great bike (good maintenance). The new XR1200 is pretty cool as well.
As far as the Brit bikes go, the new stuff is excellent- especially the Speed Triple and any of the 675's. The retro bikes are excellent as well. The old stuff is still pretty horrible by today's standards but holds great value for vintage restorers/racers. Had 'em in the day, don't want 'em now.
I chose a '79 Kawasaki KZ750 as a vintage race bike,middleweight superbike- looks Brit, runs Japanese and is a ton of fun.I would suggest vintage racing to anyone but that's another thread on another site.
Anything with two wheels and an internal combustion engine is a wonderful thing. FAce it, nobody builds bad/poorly made stuff these days- even Ural has gone 12 volt, Brembo, better assembly, etc. We all get to choose. |
Dentguy
| | Posted on Saturday, October 10, 2009 - 01:39 pm: |
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It is Blakes house, but Blake, couldn't you have just posted a response without putting it in Tginnh's post? I guess I already know that answer and shouldn't ask, but I had to go back up the page to see what Tginnh was talking about.
As for the Harleys. I haven't owned one although I ordered a new one in 2003, but it was damaged when it came in and the deal went sour.
I've spent plenty of time on a Dyna and a Deuce and liked them. I rode my neighbors Road King and didn't like it. He has 2 Street Glides, but I haven't been on one yet. They look good. I may get one someday. Nothing against them.
(Message edited by dentguy on October 10, 2009) |
Mrmoen
| | Posted on Saturday, October 10, 2009 - 02:16 pm: |
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i road an 06 electra glide before my uly, it was a great bike for is intended purpose, it just wasnt for me at the time, i will own another one someday
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Tootal
| | Posted on Saturday, October 10, 2009 - 02:36 pm: |
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Being a person that likes function over form I ride a Road Glide. Big ugly two eyed frame mounted fairing that works really well! I have ridden 15 hour days in it's saddle and felt like I did yesterday after 500 miles on the Uly! I will admit that 2/3's of the day it was raining and 1/3 of the day was after I passed into the COLD front! They are for different purposes and both do a great job. As for Triumph, I have a 75 Trident sitting on the shelf. Some day.... |
Court
| | Posted on Saturday, October 10, 2009 - 02:59 pm: |
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>>>I never back down from bullies.
Somehow I'd guessed that . . . . . sure scared me right out of the thread. Hope ya'll tough guys work it out.
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Dentguy
| | Posted on Saturday, October 10, 2009 - 03:24 pm: |
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I loved playing Rock'em Sock'em Robots when I was a kid. Those bullies would never back down, but they would blow a head gasket. |
Slinky
| | Posted on Saturday, October 10, 2009 - 06:33 pm: |
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One last comment and I'm done.
I think that the comments I made about harleys, not leaning far or going fast, were not too different than the ones you made about Yamahas.
"I've scrutinized the Yamahas you mention. They cannot compare to the Harleys in quality, fit, finish, or style. That's my opinion."
I don't think any of my comments were considered "bigotry"
It seems like hypocrisy to me. |
Blake
| | Posted on Saturday, October 10, 2009 - 07:23 pm: |
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I think that if you reconsider, you'll find something different.
"I don't see how a Harley would ever be the best bike for somebody's needs. Unless your need was to get rid of too much money."
Isn't that a very narrow-minded and sweeping insult/attack against an entire brand of motorcycles entirely devoid of thoughtful observation?
"But I have not ridden a road glide, possibly because it was so ugly I had to sneak up on the thing. It looks like it was styled by Felix the Cat."
I had to go look to be sure I was talking about the right bike. I wasn't. I rode a Street Glide. My bad. Much nicer looking front end. I don't care for the front end on the Road Glide either. Yuck. |
Dentguy
| | Posted on Saturday, October 10, 2009 - 09:00 pm: |
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PS: I post here to avoid adding yet another argumentative distraction to the thread.
Thanks Blake. Understood. |
Buewulf
| | Posted on Saturday, October 10, 2009 - 10:14 pm: |
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I have never owned a Harley, and probably never will (unless they truly make something that pays tribute to the XR750). It's nothing against HD, though. I've just never been a cruiser guy, HD or any other brand. Cruisers evoke the same emotions in me that Crown Victorias and Chevy Caprices do.
Different strokes for different folks. |
Petereid
| | Posted on Tuesday, October 13, 2009 - 08:18 pm: |
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It would be interesting to know how many Buell owners used to own are still do own Harley's
+1 on Frito....different tools for different jobs
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Bcmike
| | Posted on Tuesday, October 13, 2009 - 09:04 pm: |
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After a slew of Japanese bikes, I owned a 1991 FXRS-Sp...the hot rod big twin in it's day, a 1992 FLHS...nice basic tourer (the wife loved it).. until I got tired of the excess weight and sluggish handling..
Really enjoyed a 1998 XL 1200S, until my arms went numb from vibration.. which naturally led me to a 1991 Cyclone M2 and more recently, the 09 XT.
Unlikely I'd buy another Harley, but if I do it will be a Dyna. At least for a cruiser it's the best handler.
Didn't Erik have something to do with early FXR frame design?
(Message edited by bcmike on October 13, 2009) |
Tootal
| | Posted on Wednesday, October 14, 2009 - 11:41 am: |
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I might be wrong but I thought Erik helped design the softtail frame. |
Court
| | Posted on Wednesday, October 14, 2009 - 03:13 pm: |
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>>>I might be wrong but I thought Erik helped design the softtail frame.
That is inaccurate.
He worked on the rubber mount for the FX frame and then moved to Tests and Analysis. |
Paint_shaker
| | Posted on Wednesday, October 14, 2009 - 03:49 pm: |
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I owned a 90 FXSTS before I bought my Buells. I also briefly owned a Sporty 883 last year. I sold it so I could buy a race Buell.
I'll own another Harley and it will be a carburator (SP?) model. |
Court
| | Posted on Wednesday, October 14, 2009 - 04:52 pm: |
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>>>I'll own another Harley and it will be a carburator (SP?) model.
Keep your eyes peeled for a 2002 M2 Cyclone . . you'll thank me. |
Tootal
| | Posted on Wednesday, October 14, 2009 - 05:12 pm: |
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Thanks for the correction Court, for some reason I thought he had something to do with the under frame shocks used on the softtail. Don't know where I got that, must have been a bad dream or a bad beer! |
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