| Author | Message | ||
     Mark_weiss |
Going back together. Everything fits, just take the time to figure it out.  push the wiring clear, thread in the shroud from the top  The vent hose is shortened and goes through a hole in the shroud, the hose for the preload adjuster took a bit of working around to get into place and feed through its notch  under tray back in, that took time to wriggle into place, it came out easier than it went back in, the tail end was the tough part because it does not want to bend much  took the opportunity to create a better grounding point, ground off powdercoat and cleaned all related surfaces  all components back in place, I glued the ECM nut to the bottom of the undertray, it was a pain to get the preload adjuster back into place, working upside down, cross threading the screws was a worry  there's a small gap left between the undertray and the new front shroud, I am leaving it open for now but may tape it closed later  looking past the reservoir, the hot air path is completely closed  same on the other side | ||
| Mark_weiss |
Adding the RSS and finishing up:  mounted the inner RSS  front view if the inner RSS  side view of the inner RSS  to mount the outer RSS, start with the rear screw & work forward, some maneuvering is required and it is easier of the top screw left for last  it is a big scoop  RSS extends further than LSS  does look kinda like a bug Not including wrestling the bag mounts back into place, total install time was about two hours. Other than the torx bit, no special tools needed. Other than judicious bending, no special skill was required. The under tray would be much more difficult to deal with in cold weather. | ||
| Mark_weiss |
And the verdict is: it works! It was about 100 degrees this afternoon and I took the bike out for an hour of light urban traffic. The fan did not come on until shut down. Hot air flow is greatly improved. The right frame rail still gets hot, but that's conduction and no amount of scoops or baffles is going to change that (too bad there's no way to plumb in a fuel cooler). Air flowing onto my right calf is the same as the left, no problem. At stops, radiated heat seems less, I did not have to move my leg away from the bike at stops. Once fully heated up, the frame is still uncomfortable and there may still be hot air bleeding around the leading edge of the seat. The air source there is the gap between the frame and the rear head, I may have to try taping that closed. Overall, the bike's heat output is MUCH more manageable. I'm satisfied. I'll ride this way for a while before taking the Uly in for the ECM update. Is there ANY other motorcycle company that would do something like this? Not that I can think of. Mark in AZ | ||
| Court |
NOTE: Be mindful that when you "rotate the bag mounts down" that you, without touching it, have also rotated the 2 forward bolts that you likely did not touch. Check ALL fasteners, even the ones that were not directly involved, on the bag mounts for proper torque. | ||
| F_skinner |
Mark, good write up and pictures. I started to install mine last night but could not figure out how to remove the fuse box LOL. Now I know. I went ahead and installed the RSS only and it made a hell of a difference. I took it in for the 10K service today and took a long route home (300 miles total) and the RSS really worked. My fan still came on when getting into traffic but it did not stay on. I have never seen it turn off while riding but it did. I wired a light indicator to the fan so I can see when it comes on and it used to stay just about all the time. Today it came on only when slowing down as I was coming into a town but would soon shut off. I would say this works and works well. | ||
| Mark_weiss |
I did not forget the bolts at the footpeg mounts. I DID discover that my dealer apparently messed things up when they originally installed the mounts. The bolt on the left side is not the original fastener. It is oversized and does not have the flanged head of the other mounting screws. The mounts rotated down very easily. Getting them back into place was quite another matter. Once I'd disconnected the crossover at the rear, it was much easier. Mark in AZ | ||
| Jomartijr |
I just returned for a 40 mile shakedown ride on my 2007 Uly, post comfort kit install, and can share some temps info gathered with an IR thermometer after a five minute heat soak, 81f ambient temp here - R/h frame side- 109f l/h frame side- 108f r/h airbox cover knee cutout- 142f(!) l/h airbox cover knee cutout- 111f I was surprised about the hot airbox but I can report as others have here the comfort kit works and has eliminated the fuel burping/venting issue I observed when I first brought the bike home last January. Money well spent and I can recommend. Sunday- I did another ride today and find the fuel vent dripping a little, just a few drops from the clear line extension I installed. No liquid is coming down that line but vapor condenses when it hits the cool ambient air and drips a little. Not a deal I guess. Point is the comfort kit has minimized the amount of fuel percolating out. Frank Skinner, you might like to know this as you had some issues last winter as I recall. (Message edited by jomartijr on September 06, 2009) | ||
| Galloper |
I started with the install after I got home from work yesterday, took me some time to get everything back together, as my dad showed up and started commenting on everything I did. He's the kinda guy that would use a hammer on a screwdriver... you know the type. Needless to say I did not finish the complete install. This morning I only had to mount the airscoop, I already had an airscoop on but this was cracking due to all the heat and weather it endured during the +3 years I had it on my Uly. This afternoon (68F) I took the bike out for a long trip at sea level and below  My uly has the Buell Racekit installed, during riding the fan never came on and only after a fast highway ride the fan came on when I stopped to get gas. Temperature on right side was not noticeable, I am very pleased. | ||
| Snowscum |
Thanks for the pictures Mark. Didnt realize you had to take everything out like that. I am about to go start on mine. So do you really need to take out the bottom tray? | ||
| Electraglider_1997 |
Snowscum, To answer your question, NO. | ||
| Snowscum |
Lol to late.......Dam alot of crap has got to come off for this inner piece. Hope its worth it.got it in now to put everything back together......Wish i would of came in and read that electraglider. Someone without some kinda of hands could screw the pooch on this one. So far an hour has gona by. | ||
| Snowscum |
Can someone take a snap shot of where the positive battery cable get routed up where the shock res is? I can't seem to not pinch it in that area. | ||
| Snowscum |
Ok not the actual positive battery cable but the other one that hooks to the battery +. I see I have a nic in it from factory routing.  | ||
| Snowscum |
Ok i figured that out. Now I have a different problem all together. Dealer put a locking nut in for the ECM mount that the kit came with a new screw with a locking element. Had them jam and spin. So now I have it completely back apart trying to figure a way to keep that nut from turning with the original bolt. May have to find a nonlocking nut with the regular screw. Not sure what stock is at that bolted joint. But it would of been nice to see something different than that. I did glue that nut like this thread suggested but running torque was to much and I did find a chunk of plastic that I think was the other side of the where it contains that nut. So it broke off and now there is no way for the nut to be contained. Sorry to ramble on. Just in case someone runs into this issue. PS: This is taking way to long...... | ||
| Motorfish |
I think someone on this post used JB Weld, on the nut to hold it. | ||
| Snowscum |
Well i went with a regular nut and used the new locking screw. I partially installed ECM before I put in the bottom tray. The new screw didnt have as much running torque so you can just pull it up and tighten. Almost done. Jesus H...... Glad I dont do this for a living. I wouldnt be employed to long. lol | ||
| Glenn |
The Kit works great! GD saddle bag brackets were the worst of it. Low 80s today and the fan never came on until I stopped it. The fan noise is definitely muted. Great kit and its super that Erik mad this backward compatible. Thanks Erik! | ||
| Armymedic |
Got it in today. Thanks for the pics of yours Mark, that helped clarify when tearing things apart. I found out that you can hold the ecm locknut in place with a long magnetic retrieving device and get the front ECM bolt in, even when you are already done re-installing everything. Don't ask me how I had to go back and do this but suffice to say that neither JB weld or 5 min epoxy did the job for holding the nut in place. | ||
| Dr_greg |
Finally got my Comfort Kit last Thursday. I thought I was pretty good at wrenching, but I made what others seem to have accomplished in two hours stretch over a couple of days. Then to top it off my brake light stayed on. After a thorough debugging of brake light switch wiring, I think it had to do with the BAS needing to be reset. Anyway, the CK is now installed. After a quick shakedown cruise Sunday, I'll give it the 500-mile test on Monday. As a past vocal critic of the fan, heat, etc. I'll be the first to admit an improvement. --Doc | ||
| Snowscum |
Did a 30 miles shake down with jeans on. Big improvement. My crotch was alot cooler. Leg did get a little toasty but not nearly as bad. Good job Buell! | ||
| Mark_weiss |
Major rainstorms this morning here in the Phoenix area. Did about 100 miles but it's hard to make solid judgments, much of the time I was running water-cooled. Pretty definitely less heat onto my calves. Both sides of the bike felt pretty equal. After shutdown, with the fan running, I checked for a hot air leak between the forward shroud and the undertray. Some air comes through, but not the super-hot jet that I was expecting. The underseat components were all warm to the touch, but not hot at all. Mark in AZ | ||
| Jphish |
NOTE: Folks seem to keep missing the "option" many have suggested, with resulting unnecessary hassle. YOU CAN LEAVE THE PROBLEM ECM & BOLT IN PLACE ON THE PAN. Just don't crank it down, so you can swing it out of the way while reinstalling components. I appreciate the innovation of the original 'pioneer' who first discovered a way to eliminate the difficulty. Necessity is the mother...THANKS! | ||
| Snub13 |
As luck would have it, my fan died without warning yesterday. Perfect time to install the comfort kit!  No more toasty buns! Tim | ||
| Hooper |
This has been a really useful thread - but a quick question: anyone know if this has been the longest thread in BadWeb history? | ||
| Electraglider_1997 |
Here is the longest thread: http://www.roadsideamerica.com/story/2128 | ||
| Paralegalpete |
Well I went through this entire thread and copied and pasted installation posts and pics into a word document.(14 pages) Since I have the bags, I will try and install it without removing them and the seat pan as some have done. Any more detailed instructions on this method would be greatly appreciated. | ||
| Paralegalpete |
It took me an hour to instal the inside/outside scoop and heat shield. No big deal. The outside middle scoop bolt didn't line up right but an awl and vise grips did the trick | ||
| Methed |
FWIW, as a "local", I can tell you that the 'longest thread' linked is the largest by one man--apparently there's another out there somewhere that folks keep adding to. Not sure who could claim the title here on badweb, but some names come to mind... | ||
| Alershka |
With the 66% solution in place (rss and header heat shield) I took the bike out for about an hour, ate lunch and then another 90 minutes on the way back. I rode pretty hard, running revs high as much as possible riding mixed highway roads between 55 - 70 mph. On the way down, the fan came on only when the bike was off. On the way back, I took a more scenic route that was lower speeds and more stops. The fan was intermittently on towards the end of the ride. Most other trips prior to the install, the fan would have been on pretty much the whole ride. Seat area was comfortable but the real test is the next 90+ day as today was mild. I will be doing the rest of the install tomorrow with the battery pan removal, keeping the seat pan, and my bag brackets in place. All I can say is I'm happy with the kit, I just wish it would have been stock in 06. | ||
| Hooper |
You can always count on Electraglider... |
