| Author | Message | ||
     Jim_sb |
Yes, 91 octane always. Same for the CRF250X. It could be that my static timing is off, but I have always suspected heat as the culprit. Take a 100+ BHP air cooled engine and wrap it tightly in a metal frame filled with fuel and one might think it could get warm in there. What's the skinny on why this mod works? 1. Better engine cooling? 2. Or was the ECU itself being "toasted" causing it to perhaps think things were hotter than they truly were? In any event I ordered the kit from Ventura/Camarillo Buell at lunch time today. Will install it myself ASAP when it arrives and will have them reflash the ECU when I get a chance. It can't hurt to try. My Ulysses has been great. I would only change 3 things on the bike: 1. The pinging (which I hope this solves) 2. I'd like to see the suspension have more off-pavement capability. Mine is awful on stutter bumps - I'm sure that with $$$ someone like Works Performance can solve that. 3. I need to add a steering damper - my Uly misbehaves in deep sand/gravel - say more than 4". I've gone through 2 D616's and 2 Scorpion Syncs in back and now I'm back to D616's front and rear once again. The D616's are the best tires I've used on pavement with gravel/sand strewn about. | ||
| Sanchez |
> Does this stop the pinging? That's easy to fix. http://www.badweatherbikers.com/buell/messages/142 838/315389.html | ||
| Dennis_c |
With the comfort kit and a reflash on a 08 ULY my fan now comes on at 15 mph and stays on until my speed drops below 15 mph and does not run when I shut the motor off. It use to run only when I shut the motor off.All this is when the motor is hot | ||
| Jim_sb |
Good idea Sanchez. I lost my ECM Spy software when a virus forced me to wipe my PC clean and start over. Need to get all that reinstalled. Time to drill the timing cover off and get after it. | ||
| Zzaped |
I had my comfort kit put on yesterday and the thing that I like the best about it is how much cooler the bike is riding in low speed traffic. It's nice not having the frame hot to the touch and having to ride with your leg hanging out. | ||
| Aceldama |
Installed my kit last night. First thing: Thanks for the tip on gluing the ECM nut to the trunk pan, because there was no way I was getting that back in without this trick. Background: I have a new '08 XB12XT that I've been riding for a few weeks now. The fan always runs for a few minutes after a ride. I've got about 1800 miles on the bike and have been running conventional HD oil only so far. After the comfort kit install: Bike still runs the fan after a ride for at least 3-5 minutes. Riding in to work today: - 20 minute ride. - 71 deg F - Fan still ran like it did before the comfort kit install Do I have a defective temp sensor or something somewhere? I'm not sure how so many people in this thread are reporting that after the kit install (no flash) that their fan doesn't run anymore after a ride. | ||
| Trevd |
Aceldama, I have an '08XT as well, and while I haven't had time to take it on many rides since my comfort kit install, the times that I have, my fan still runs after the ride, alot like it used to. I may get the ECM flash tomorrow and see how that affects it. I don't really mind the fan running at shut down though... | ||
| Ratbuell |
My 06, the fan runs after shutdown. It just doesn't come on while *moving*, anymore. | ||
| Aceldama |
Ahh ok, my misunderstanding. I can never really tell if it comes on when I'm moving anyway due to Strapping Young Lad. I'm not sold on the new fan logic reflash yet though. It sounds like the fan would run a lot more but not protect the rear cylinder at shutdown. I might hold off on that for a while. | ||
| Jphish |
My 08' (with comfort kit but NO reflash) fan no longer runs at shut down provided I was at 60+ mph, under 75* and haven't dwaddled in low speed too much between exiting hwy and home. I put my hand in back cavity behind rear cyl - it's warm, but not 'hot'. If I let it idle for 5 mins or so before shut down - the fan DOES come on. Haven't had higher temps to test it in. Curious what 85* would yield. | ||
| Galloper |
Well the comfort kits made it to Europe too, I just picked mine up from the dealer. Going to install it saturday. It made it a week before my trip to france, germany and switzerland. | ||
| Nobuell |
Aceldama My 08 XT ran a lot hotter when it was new. The motor seemed to cool down quit a bit around 5K miles. I also switched to synthetic oil (both holes) at 1K change. My fan only comes on at shut-down and very slow speeds. I have not heard it going on when moving at moderate and higher speeds. I have about 1200 miles since installing the kit. I ride about 60 miles per day going to work. Half is the slab the rest is 2 lane highways. The temperatures have been 50 degree F to about 80 degrees F. | ||
| Aceldama |
Thanks for the info guys. I think I'm going to switch over to synthetic for my next oil change as well. The plan was to break-in on conventional and at 1800mi I'm about done with that. | ||
| Eulysses |
Just wondering...is anyone actually documenting temp differences with the Comfort upgrade? Like with a laser heat thermometer? I know it is hard to re-duplicate but there is so much blocking going on of air flow that I am concerned all this comfort effort is causing the rear cylinder to deal with more heat. Using the fan as a diagnostic after the ECM change would not be good. The fan time before ECM would be diagnostic on similar runs/temp days. Tell me how I am wrong please. Comfort kit on order. | ||
| Tootal |
I have an 06 so no ecm change. Huge difference in fan run time. It hasn't run except on shut down. Huge difference. | ||
| Eulysses |
That should be a worthy testimony to lower temps then...I do wonder about all the "custom" hot air blocking being done in the name of comfort that has not been engineered. One would think that back cylinder head should be free to breath. | ||
| Petereid |
Well the comfort kits made it to Europe too Still waiting for the damn thing here in Canada. Next time my dealer doesn't have a firm delivery date I'm just going to order from a USA dealer. | ||
| Paralegalpete |
I 'm in Canada and ordered mine about a month ago, it came this week | ||
| Mark_weiss |
Comfort kit arrived today and is currently partially installed. Buell seems to have done it's job though. Not long after unpacking the parts, a summer storm rolled in and dropped the temperature by about 25 degrees. How'd Erik arrange that? So far, I'm into it for about an hour. I'll take a little longer than standard because I have bag mounts and have chosen the standard install, not a shortcut. Disassembly was straightforward, other than dropping the nut from the ECM mount (it's still missing) there were no surprises. The shock shroud is on and that's where I stopped. Mark in AZ | ||
| Maximum |
Mark, my kit is supposed to arrive tomorrow...so I guess that I should be looking forward to cooler weather here in Colorado!  | ||
| Ratbuell |
Mark - my ECM nut ended up on the forward edge of the swingarm. I couldn't see it, I just started waving my flexible "magnet on a stick" around down there until I heard the "clack".  | ||
| Lulu7404 |
Hey guys, I installed my kit yesterday and mentioned this tidbit on ADVrider. Just leave the front bolt and nut of the ecm on and connected to the pan. It does not have to come off at all, you just need to be able to swing it out of the way to pull the battery tray and move the shock res when taking out the trunk tray. Can't wait to ride today. Rode yesterday with just header cover and RSS and NO furnace blast and no radiant heat on right leg. Felt like a whole new bike around town. I am stoked! | ||
| Nobuell |
+1 on the front ECM bolt. I did the same and it worked quite well. | ||
| Etennuly |
I'm wondering if any of the long time RSS bikes have had any problems with melt damaged wires and or ECM problems where no codes were present or historic. The BAS was moved away from the heat source, but the ECM was left in place. I would like to know if any of you with the early RSS has had a 'flasing light/run/skip' problem that has plagued some of the earlier Ulys lately. With no trouble codes showing for the condition it takes some special time and effort to find and fix it. The dealer shops have not had much success. | ||
| Jomartijr |
The comfort kit install went pretty well on mine but I chose to do the trunk pan removal and so all the items- battery, batt tray ( a little difficult to remove and refit), ecm ( well, I left this connected and just pulled the cabled assembly aside, secured with a long tie wrap) and finally trunk pan. One poster had used a wedge to pry the seat pan front up to install the front ecm nut and that worked well here. I've only ridden a short distance through the neighborhood but noticed the fan didn't come on when I parked the bike, likely wasn't fully warmed up. I also note there is slight misalignment of the shock duct and the trunk pan front edge but nothing to get excited about. I have worked on my own bikes since 1973 and have to say this Ulysses is the easiest bike to wrench on I've ever owned. | ||
| Electraglider_1997 |
When the ECM nut dropped, I found it sitting on the coil spring of the shock. I picked it up with my homemade magnet on a rod. Reinstall by wedging a screwdriver or similar sized piece between the new shroud and seat pan. This should give you ample space to then use your finger to hold nut in place while you screw the bolt into it. Plastic pieces have plenty of give so long as the ambient temp is warm enough or heat them with a hair dryer. | ||
| Alershka |
My kit arrived today. I did the RSS and header shield. It should have taken about 15 minutes but after I had everything together, I noticed that I had missed the third new screw on the outer part of the scoop (bottom middle). I took everything apart so I could get the inner and outer aligned correctly. Screwing in the third new screw was a pita. It didn't want to tighten. I used a ratcheting allen head driver to finally get it to go in. I'm going to ride tomorrow a bit and see how improved things are. Then I will think about installing the duct. The thought of taking my bag frame off and yanking the whole seat pan apart isn't too appealing. | ||
| Electraglider_1997 |
You really don't have to take everything apart to install the underseat shroud. Take ECM and battery and it's pan out and the fuse box out. Plus as I recall you have to unplug a couple of wire cables which is a no-brainer. Take out just the front underseat pan screws and the two ground screws and just hand grasp and pry the pan up enough to get the shroud in place. To take the entire pan out is not at all necessary unless you really just like to overdue things. | ||
| Mark_weiss |
What's in the box:  label  stuff  front, top view  front, bottom view  rss, inner view  rss, outer view, from "below"  rss inner, outside view  rss inner, engine side  heat shield  backside view  packaged hardware | ||
| Mark_weiss |
Disassembly took about an hour. I decided to move the bag mounts and take the whole tray out.  pre-attack  battery out  ECM out (lost the nut and never found it again)  battery tray out, took a few minutes to figure out which way to press the clips to release the fuse & relay box. Took some wriggling to work free of the tray  How'd this get there? There was more on the other side too. I've added a few 1/4" drain holes  under tray out. I pressed it out the bottom. It took a bit of pressure to get the back end to curl enough to clear.  all of the wires will need to be pushed up & away to gain clearance for the front shroud. |
