| Author | Message | ||
     Steve_mackay |
My pleasure Todd. Anytime. I'm in the process of creating a much more in-depth web pasge/document of the installation. The directions need much to be desired IMHO. | ||
| Court |
>>>>The directions need much to be desired IMHO. Precisely the reason I'd asked folks to get their information posted. I'll consolidate and send to Technical Publications for review/consideration. Well done. | ||
| Paralegalpete |
I'm ordering mine today. Thanks to all you folks who have and will post more details of the diy install. | ||
| Wolfridgerider |
Well... the fan did come on after a nice ride to work. But it didn't turn on until I turned the bike off. I should be able to tell if it helps with the right side heat after work today. I have a 40 mile + ride at rush hour in stop and go traffic and it usually is a right leg roaster... | ||
| Jphish |
Steve - Thanks for the forth coming install pics. Given the marginal instructions, that will really assist us mechanically challenged bunch. j | ||
| Squidbuzz |
Court, the front nut and bolt for the ECM is a major mess up. I'm not quite sure how they figured you'd get the nut on that bolt after the fan shroud is in place. Tiny hands from the bottom? I don't think so. | ||
| Jphish |
Oh yeah - one (well.. maybe 2) Question: 'SUPERGLUE nut' before reinstalling pan - how / what specifically do you superglue it to ? I dont have the kit in hand or the Uly disassembled yet, so perhaps that will be intuitive when its spread all over the garage floor... amid the wreckage of all my other unfinished projects. Thanks, j | ||
| Wolfridgerider |
the front nut and bolt for the ECM is a major mess up I have no idea how I'm gonna get that thing installed now.... | ||
| Teeps |
There is a hex shaped pocket, in the seat pan, that the nut fits in. IMO JB weld would be a better solution... Oh yea, Cal/Buell-Harley called me yesterday: kit is in hand. (Message edited by TEEPS on August 06, 2009) | ||
| Hughlysses |
My guess is the nut fits in a hex-shaped recess in the bottom of the underseat pan. Perhaps when the pan is new the nut fits tightly into the hex, but after a couple of years of aging and heat the plastic doesn't fit quite so tightly and the nut drops out easily. Superglue or maybe just a strip of paper wrapped around the nut to hold it in place until you can get the bolt threaded into it would work. | ||
| Chas1969 |
The 'bitch' is that shroud. I made a odie-like blanket couple months ago and fine. The kit fan shroud is the same as production 10' bikes which is great when the 10's are coming down the production line, but the kit is not retrofit-friendly  And the re-flash for the ECM I will love to see the feed back but I sure love the security tried and true maps ... buell seems to take 1-2 re-dos. Also I did a search of all the old posts about RSS and now a 180 from all RSS = BAD to RSS is gooood. I always thought it was a good idea with my 1$ small RSS or my new 120$ big Buell 'comfort kit' RSS. Keeping it cool, both engines and heads ... its all good  Chas | ||
| Jphish |
Thanks Teeps...the solution is beginning to clarify. Thanks to all you 'pioneers' who have wrestled with the install & proposed solutions to the mysteries of nefarious / devious/ diabolical engineer humor. Wonder if they're chuckling about this ? perhaps this was just a test of the BWB members to see if we could collectively solve the conundrum ?? | ||
| Jkpotter |
Don't post often but have been a member for a while... I am waiting on my kit... When I inquired with Seminole Harley/Buell (Florida), I was told the reflash was going to be $149 plus $42.50 for labor. Is this the going rate and what does the ECM reflash do for $191.50 plus tax?  | ||
| Steve_mackay |
$200 for a 5 MINUTE JOB? Waaa? That's NUTS. I'll verify with Hals if they have to 'pay' for the flash(which I doubt). That is just NUTZ! | ||
| Froggy |
A reflash isn't a chargeable part, but the labor is. Sounds like you got something else going on, like physically replacing the ECM. | ||
| Petereid |
I just had my ecm flashed yesterday. total cost for the flash $0. Check around other dealers JK Pete | ||
| Johnboy777 |
It would be nice if someone with an '06-'07 reflash would offer the EEPROM file for ECMspy users to try. . | ||
| Glenn |
Good suggestion Johnboy | ||
| Prowler |
"I was told the reflash was going to be $149 plus $42.50 for labor".............the reason H-D dealers have the reputation they have...........  | ||
| Dr_greg |
Enough of the installation issues already; I know I can install it (having basically had everything apart on the Uly short of splitting the cases). The question: DOES THE BLASTED "COMFORT KIT" PREVENT YOUR RIGHT LEG FROM GETTING BLISTERED IN 100+ TEMPS??? That is the only thing I care about... --Doc | ||
| Hughlysses |
Doc- from Ulyscol's post earlier in the thread: I put the entire kit in last night, sorry no pics. I can say that it does its job. After about a twenty mile ride today in 80 degree temps under my seat was warm but not egg cookin' hot like usual. The right side frame rail stays at a tolerable temperature as well. | ||
| Maximum |
So...If the comfort kit really reduces the heat under the seat...who is going to undo their BAS recall? I would love to regain that storage space in the tail. | ||
| Hughlysses |
Great question- I wonder if they put they BAS back in its old location on the 2010 models? | ||
| Froggy |
Perhaps we can re-relocate the BAS and put it under the tail light behind the seat lock? Or is exposure to elements a bad thing? | ||
| Dr_greg |
I'm not talking 80 degrees. I don't have a problem in 80 degrees. I mean HOT weather. And I don't care about the frame rail, I care about the friggin' air blowing on my LEG like a BLOWTORCH. Sorry if I come across as frustrated, but it seems like people that have received this thing are taking a few days to look at all the parts and nobody has tried it out in some REAL heat. Maybe this weekend And maybe the rest of the country is cool, but the US Southwest has had 100 degrees most days since 8 July. I don't live on the CA coast. --Doc | ||
| Hughlysses |
Doc- the hot air on the right leg is easy to fix without the comfort kit. Remove seat, use adhesive backed aluminum HVAC tape or similar to seal off the opening in the frame above the rear cylinder head- that's where the hot air blows out. Alternate approach is to glue a strip of weather stripping to the bottom of the seat on the right side. Either seems to work well. Tested by me in 100+ plus SC temps commuting in bumper-to-bumper traffic. (Message edited by Hughlysses on August 06, 2009) | ||
| Skifastbadly |
Hugh: Since the Buell engineers use lots of FEA based fluid dynamics simulation software to tune this beast, aren't you concerned that 'field engineering' a solution would cause an airflow not anticipated by the design and thus end up in overheating the rear cylinder? | ||
| Chadhargis |
I've been blessed with long legs (or cursed when it comes to riding comfort), and my leg is so far from the heat that I never feel it. My comfort kit....36" inseam. That is until my knees start hurting like someone is driving a nail through them after 100 miles. | ||
| Hughlysses |
Skifastbadly- I had considered that but AFAIK it hasn't caused a problem. Once I get the Comfort Kit installed I'll remove my mod and see how it does like that. I believe somebody posted in one thread (maybe one of the other Buell forums) that the factory RSS seems to stop that airflow out of the top of the frame (that seems to only be noticeable before the fan kicks on). | ||
| Ourdee |
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