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Kimberley
Posted on Friday, July 31, 2009 - 11:00 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

So... I picked up a 4 inch flat-ended bolt in my.....wait for it.....NEW rear tire (less than 100 miles). This was after replacing the original, 1100 mile tire after picking up a 3 inch sheet metal screw.

I need some sage advice. Since we have no center stand, what is the safest way to service the rear tire? A Pit Bull stand?? A Sears-type lift??

This time around, I'm gonna Slime this tire and monitor the air pressure. If it holds, great. If not, I'm gonna get a new tire installed and keep the "holy" one so I can get it patched and use it for the NEXT TIME (which, with my current schedule, should be about 2-3 weeks).

I'm not the only one......3 other coworkers have lost a total of 6 tires. Lots of construction around the streetcar yard.

Happy, happy, joy, joy.
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Teddagreek
Posted on Friday, July 31, 2009 - 11:27 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

motorcycle ATV jack will more handy and you can lift the whole bike..

Got mine from harbor freight with a coupon for like 35 dollars..

At the time the sears and harbor freight looked almost Identical..


If your forced to buy Chinese, I say buy the cheapest..
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Froggy
Posted on Friday, July 31, 2009 - 11:31 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I use Pitbulls, worth the coin.

Next time use Rhinotire lined tires, they are virtually punctureproof.
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Lens
Posted on Friday, July 31, 2009 - 11:41 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I got the Harbor Freight ATM lift, but, for me, it's hard to keep the bike stable on the lift. I'll be be looking for a Pit Bull stand soon.
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Kimberley
Posted on Saturday, August 01, 2009 - 12:06 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Thank you, Froggy! I'll be ordering the Rhinotires ASAP!!
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Hughlysses
Posted on Saturday, August 01, 2009 - 07:27 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Get the motorcyle/ATV jack and build a muffler cradle out of wood to go with it. Here's a good thread with pics and several different templates for cutting out the parts for the cradle:

http://www.badweatherbikers.com/buell/messages/327 77/448564.html
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Ulynut
Posted on Saturday, August 01, 2009 - 07:46 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

If you are in a pinch, just about any hydraulic floor jack will do. Even a scissor jack. This will only get one wheel at a time though. I also block it up with wood after I get it off the ground, just for safety reasons.
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Electraglider_1997
Posted on Saturday, August 01, 2009 - 12:56 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

No stand needed. Just plug that sucker and reinflate. I had the same thing happen to a new tire with less than 1000 miles. I got a plug kit for about $5, pulled the nail, reemed the hole as instructed, inserted plug and inflated tire. Road that tire until it was worn out with no problems. Hope you kept that other 1000 mile nailed tire. That one you can patch from the inside or plug with one of those fancier barbed type plugs.
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Florida_lime
Posted on Saturday, August 01, 2009 - 01:41 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

4 inch flat-ended bolt

Even a rope type plug might not work with that large of a hole, not to mention the Slime. It might require a couple plugs, so a patch from the inside would be preferred for a more permanent repair.
Some people swear by the Stop-N-Go mushroom plugs, but the steel belts in some tires like the Syncs can cut through them in less than 100 miles.
DAMHIK
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Kimberley
Posted on Sunday, August 02, 2009 - 12:54 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Florida lime was right.....the damage was beyond repair. Slime didn't work so I get to trailer the bike home (from work). She'll sit until I get the $$$$ to get a Rhinoline tire.

Thanks to all of you for the advice on the jack as well. Haven't decided which route to go....yet.

And Electraglider......unfortunately, I didn't tell the shop to give me the 1100 mile tire back. Now I know better!!
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Cyclonedon
Posted on Sunday, August 02, 2009 - 01:57 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I plugged my tire once when I ran over a screw and it worked all right for about 9000 miles but if the tire had a slash in it, I wouldn't try plugging it. You might try taking the tire off and having a patch put on the inside of the tire.

Tires are expensive but if the tire is unsafe to ride, then the price is worth the new tire.
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Kimberley
Posted on Sunday, August 02, 2009 - 09:56 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Now I've got cracked ribs to go with the flat tire.....the Uly and I fell of the ramp trying to load her on the flatbed trailer.

Trashed my left rear turn signal (still works tho!), bent the crap out of my clutch lever, put a couple of scratches on the left side grab rail and bag assembly.

Like a bad circus trick was how it was described to me.
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Ft_bstrd
Posted on Sunday, August 02, 2009 - 10:05 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Like a bad circus trick was how it was described to me.

Is that like dirty clowns?


That's ok, Barker shoved his bike off the stands and onto the frame.

Could be worse. Good luck with your tire.
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Etennuly
Posted on Sunday, August 02, 2009 - 10:15 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

If you want to spend your jack method money on the tire, use a standard 8" cement block with a 1" board on top of it, tip the bike onto the side stand just enough to get it under the muffler at the back and it will work well. I do it all the time just because it is so quick and easy. As with any jack system, loosen the necessary bolts before jacking it up.
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Ft_bstrd
Posted on Sunday, August 02, 2009 - 10:25 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Sears jack and home made wooden cradle work like a charm.
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Kimberley
Posted on Monday, August 03, 2009 - 08:01 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Yeah, I'm thinking the jack and cradle sounds good. Looking for a trailer as well. Kinda fun getting to buy this stuff!! Takes my mind off my ribs, at least!!
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Florida_lime
Posted on Monday, August 03, 2009 - 08:24 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Sorry for your most recent problem -- I broke several ribs last year while trout fishing.
Wasn't much that could take my mind off it.

DON'T SNEEZE !
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Thetable
Posted on Monday, August 03, 2009 - 09:42 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

In answer to the original question, I've been quite happy lifting the the Pitbull stands, but it's really not the cheapest alternative.

As to repeated punctures, you might also want to think about a mudflap hanging off the front of the muffler like the Palmer setup. Rear punctures tend to be a one-two setup, with the front tire kicking screw/nail (or even bolt) up enough so that it can make pointy end contact with the rear tire. A little mudflap should help to prevent much of that.
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Florida_lime
Posted on Monday, August 03, 2009 - 10:07 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Thetable

What rear Pitbull stand do you have ?
I have a Universal Pitbull that works great on the Dark Horse Moto spools (with the spool side), but is close to useless for the swingarm when I flip to the swingarm pad side. I've almost dropped it several times trying to go that route, and always have to come up with alternatives.(Hydraulic jack and tiedowns from the ceiling)
I have a front triple clamp stand that works great for the front end.
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Thetable
Posted on Monday, August 03, 2009 - 10:48 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I am using the standard swingarm stand in the rear, making sure to hook on the little tabs on the bottom of the swingarm, but I also have an XT, so it may be that the angle is slightly less making the difference. I remember reading somewhere about using the forklift stand for the rear on the Uly. In the front, I am using the Newfront stand with the #2 pin.
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Florida_lime
Posted on Monday, August 03, 2009 - 10:59 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I also have an XT, so it may be that the angle is slightly less making the difference.

Maybe -- I try to catch the tabs, but it never seems to work. As soon as I start to lift it up, it slides off one side or the other.
Not confidence inspiring, to say the least !
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Sanchez
Posted on Monday, August 03, 2009 - 02:21 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

> Just plug that sucker and reinflate.

That's the ticket. I've done it twice now with no problems.
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Wesman
Posted on Monday, August 03, 2009 - 02:37 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

T-Rex Stand and a rod through the hollow axle.
T-Rexes are extra wide and have a flipper holder that may also work without the rod through the axle thing. I haven't tried it that way but I will when it come time to remove the rear wheel.
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Metalstorm
Posted on Monday, August 03, 2009 - 09:40 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

My cradle





I have little eye hooks so I can use a strap to keep it tight under the muffler then I just slide the jack under it.


The really pathetic thing is that my bike is a cg and is so low that to use the jack I have to use a 6 foot long 4x12 cut into thirds.

The first part is ramped so I roll the bike up onto the board and place kick stand on a small 4x12 block.

Next I slide out the middle piece and slide the jack under my bike.

I much prefer using my bike stands but sometimes you have to jack her up by the muffler like when removing the swing arm.
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Kimberley
Posted on Tuesday, August 04, 2009 - 10:50 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Got the Uly back w/the new tire. I've decided if this happens again, I'm gonna do a set of the Rhinoline tires. I'm also gonna get a atv/motorcycle lift and build a cradle so I can take the tire off myself and save some $$$$.

I also ordered a WIDE ramp for my truck. Hopefully I won't fall off this one!!

Thanks for all of the help/advice. You folks are the best!!!!
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Bttrthnwrk
Posted on Tuesday, August 04, 2009 - 11:51 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Here's the cradle for my Uly:

my Uly cradle


I use a Harbor Freight lift. Works okay, but I make sure to strap it down whenever it's up off the ground.
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