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Johnboy777
Posted on Friday, July 17, 2009 - 05:37 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I just got a new Glock 26 (9mm) and it fits my Buell Man Bag perfectly. Great way for concealed carry.



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Ulynut
Posted on Friday, July 17, 2009 - 05:46 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Don't tailgate Johnboy777!!

Nice Roscoe you got there.
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Andrejs2112
Posted on Friday, July 17, 2009 - 08:49 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Is that carried in case you forget your wallet?
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Hdbobwithabuell
Posted on Friday, July 17, 2009 - 08:57 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

No... in case you try and TAKE his wallet
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Hangetsu
Posted on Friday, July 17, 2009 - 09:01 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I'd like to see how fast he can wrestle that thing out of there while under the duress of being robbed - by another armed assailant.
I think you'd be better off giving up your wallet. You'll live longer.
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Johnboy777
Posted on Friday, July 17, 2009 - 09:34 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

""I'd like to see how fast he can wrestle that thing out of there while under the duress of being robbed - by another armed assailant.
I think you'd be better off giving up your wallet. You'll live longer.""


That's just for carrying the firearm. It never occurred to me to draw from that position - just an easy way for me to carry it.

Also, if need be, you can discreetly put in on your person in a few seconds from that carrying position.

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Frostymug
Posted on Friday, July 17, 2009 - 09:36 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Or the assailant won't want any witnesses and shoot him after he takes his wallet.
I'm with Johnboy. I believe in my right to carry and defend myself and I'll take that chance, at least I tried.

There's sheep and then there are wolves.
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Etennuly
Posted on Friday, July 17, 2009 - 09:44 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

The problem with concealed carry like that is when you stop for lunch somewhere or for gas and run in to the bathroom, you gotta make sure you don't forget to take it with you. Some curious idiot or a petty thief looking for change could end up owning you. If you transfer that to your pocket in public parking lots it becomes other than concealed doesn't it?

I too carry most of the time. My mind set about that is if you are on the bike and it is running you would do a lot better job with the clutch and throttle than a hand held weapon while you are moving. I tote mine in a locked compartment that I still worry about when the bike is out of sight range.

The main reason I carry is in case of a break down in a "bad" area in a city or town, or on one of these really remote back roads that I often ride on where there will never be a phone signal. These places sometimes are what you would see a picture of in an encyclopedia under the heading of 'back woods', where fiddles have two strings, which is usually more teeth than it's player has.
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Hangetsu
Posted on Friday, July 17, 2009 - 09:50 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I would consider the man who would risk his life, taking the risk of leaving his wife without a husband, kids without a father, and close friends without their mate, for the sake of a little cash and a few credit cards, more of a fool than a wolf.

But then, many Americans do seem to value heroics over good sense. How do you think Bush stayed on the throne as long as he did.
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Johnboy777
Posted on Friday, July 17, 2009 - 10:04 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Hey East Tenn,

I think its all about your intended use - you can remove the Man Bag and take it with you if you want... its just another option, for concealed carry.

As part of my work in real estate, I end up in vacant buildings and industrial properties, in some bad parts of town. I normally carry mine (when needed) in a Day Runner that i gutted out - very simple, and unassuming in combination with my leather folder that I always carry, as well.

From my perspective, the Man Bag is simply another option to transport it from point A. to point B., where it ends up being carried on my person.

I can't imagine carrying it that way on a trip. But i guess I haven't really thought about it.

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Etennuly
Posted on Friday, July 17, 2009 - 10:33 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

It would certainly be more comfortable than carrying on your body while riding. I'm just saying I would probably get comfortable about it being there and forget that it is there.

I'm with ya on the real estate program, there are some spooky people to meet in isolated desolate places.

I have run across some 'people eating' critters on some of my remote runs to do estimates on heavy equipment setting in work lots. It is comforting to have that little helper if needed.
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Johnboy777
Posted on Friday, July 17, 2009 - 10:47 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

""I'm with ya on the real estate program, there are some spooky people to meet in isolated desolate places. ""

Two weeks ago a walked into this 100k SF warehouse I've had for sale since last fall to find it ransacked - I walked out and called the police and the owner. It turns out they stole 1,200 linear ft. of copper electrical wire from the place. It was the really heavy-duty stuff too. Bob-Cat tracks were al over the floor.

The insurance company estimated between $100k and $150k of wire was ripped out - for the copper.

The PO said it was a good thing for my sake I didn't walk in on 'em

You never know, I guess.

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Etennuly
Posted on Friday, July 17, 2009 - 11:41 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

For me, I was about ten miles out into a remote construction equipment temporary parking lot near a wooded construction sight to look at a damaged excavator. There were at least six large pieces of equipment there.

I parked the bike got out my camera and estimate board, walked the hundred or so feet over to the unit I was there to see, and out runs a black bear from between the one I was looking at and one of the others. The bear immediately took off into the woods. I turned and scooted back over to the bike. I carried my weapon back to do the estimate.

Funny thing, I didn't think to get a picture of the bear. I have little doubt that shooting it would only have pissed it off, my objective with the gun would have been to further scare it away as I retreated.
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Bosh
Posted on Saturday, July 18, 2009 - 01:58 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I would consider the man who would risk his life, taking the risk of leaving his wife without a husband, kids without a father, and close friends without their mate, for the sake of some idealistic view that criminals won't hurt you if you give them what they want, more of a fool than a wolf.

Fixed it for ya.
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Tginnh
Posted on Saturday, July 18, 2009 - 06:07 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Oh geezus, here we go...

Honestly, isn't this topic best suited to private discourse?

I mean really, if some unsuspecting person stumbled onto this thread wouldn't it tend to endorse the "bad biker" stigma?
You know, guns and bikes...

Johnboy - nice glock. What's next? A holster for a 30-30?
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Etennuly
Posted on Saturday, July 18, 2009 - 06:14 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

It is a private discourse. Disclosed in the title of the thread. If the subject offends don't open the thread. Kinda like a TV, ya don't like what is on change the channel or don't go to that channel after you read what is going to be on there.

BTW, I had a 30-30 holster on a three wheeler in the seventies. Used it for hunting more than protection.
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Tginnh
Posted on Saturday, July 18, 2009 - 06:51 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

It is a private discourse. Disclosed in the title of the thread. If the subject offends don't open the thread.
You know, I keep reading that same refrain. I don't get how you draw that conclusion when this is a public forum.

What's next? The personal responsibility lecture?
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Etennuly
Posted on Saturday, July 18, 2009 - 07:55 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I knew you would come back.....it is a matter of the Human condition. We all are retarded in some way!




I'm sure more than one way for me!

I'm sorry, I have been up for 25 hours now trying to get a job done. I come back here between coats of primer and paint.
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Tginnh
Posted on Saturday, July 18, 2009 - 08:14 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Agreed. But, I prefer stupid over retarded - you know PC and all...

25 hrs straight huffing paint fumes? Yikes.
I retract everything I wrote.
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Treysmagna
Posted on Saturday, July 18, 2009 - 11:27 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I carry my 1911 every day, every where I can legally carry it. I have a CHL here in Texas and can and do carry every state that has a reciprocal agreement with Texas; it is my right. I always carry it on my person and in the same place unless there is a valid reason not to. This is a personal choice and one not to be taken litely. I think we should have a national open carry law. I think it would even be better to know every one that is carrying and it would be a deterent to crime. I can see some one stupid enough to walk into a bank or grocery store and rob it with half the people, men and women, carrying. Yes, in Texas women carry too. I am sure they do in other states as well.
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Dmmblaze
Posted on Saturday, July 18, 2009 - 12:06 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

hahaha, hopefully it's latex based.

Looks like the being pissed off at China wheels thread was pulled, can't find it though I am still blurry eyed from waking up. Maybe this thread will be pulled too since guns for whatever reason are controversial. Though as long as you have a permit to carry a concealed weapon, what's the big deal where you keep it enclosed as long as it's secure?

I've been thinking about getting one of those Buell handle bar bags but have questioned how secure they would be with valuable items zipped up in em. I suppose if your willing to drive around with a gun in it they must be pretty secure going down the highway. Show's a vote of confidence in the bag anyway. I think I am gonna order one.
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Johnboy777
Posted on Saturday, July 18, 2009 - 12:09 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Hey Treysmagna,

Where do you carry when you ride?

John
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Tginnh
Posted on Saturday, July 18, 2009 - 12:49 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Dmmblaze - the china wheel thread got moved to the backfire board. I read your post to fb - it was brilliant. Thanks for taking the time and effort.

As for the handlebar bag - it's a great value for the $$$. I keep nothing of value in mine since it is not secure. What I do keep in it is a can of cleaner and rainx for my helmet shield. And of course, a rag. Oh yeah, it has a front pocket that's good for stashing ear plugs.
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Treysmagna
Posted on Saturday, July 18, 2009 - 01:04 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I have three bikes and they are my transportation so I am just about always riding. I carry every where I can legally carry. My employer will not allow firearms in the plant or parking lot so I can not carry there. I recently went on a trip to Tennessee and carried there since every state that I traveled through has a reciprocal agreement with Texas. I do look before I travel and plan my trips accordingly. If I can avoid it I will not travel through a state that will not allow me to carry even if it means more miles. I put my gun on when I get up in the morning and take it off when I go to bed. It is a there all the time for the most part. I went to Alaska in 05 and coundnt carry because of Canada, but that is their law and I had to abide. It is a part of me jst as my boots, helmet and jacket are every day.
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Etennuly
Posted on Saturday, July 18, 2009 - 06:42 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Latex fumes are for sissys! This is automotive single stage urethane, but it is one of the lowest VOC's available and sprayed with HVLP with good ventilation and good paint mask and suit.

Problem with timing was, I couldn't get back to it during the day yesterday and the primer takes a couple of hours to dry. Then sand it reprime and wait a couple more hours. Then sand/clean/prep and start painting. It is then best to wait a half hour between coats. Then if you get a small run it can be fixed without messing up the final coat, if you wait an extra hour for that coat wherein it gets sanded out before continuing.

Damn, I feel like a zombie today.
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Etennuly
Posted on Saturday, July 18, 2009 - 06:46 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I want to get one of the man bags for my bike to retain the wires for my heated gear, bar heaters, and to hold the wires for my GPS. Up front room for cleaning cloths would be nice too.
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Ourdee
Posted on Saturday, July 18, 2009 - 07:31 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Johnboy, Put that thing on your person.
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Dr_greg
Posted on Saturday, July 18, 2009 - 07:50 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

When I stopped by some folks in the rural NW during my recent 3-week trip on the Uly, one guy asked if I carried a gun (not a rider).

I grew up in a rural area with firearms as a commonplace thing in my family, but it never occurred to me to take one on a trip. It would give me the willies.

And yes, I support all the "rights," but still...

Of course YMMV.

--Doc
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Hdbobwithabuell
Posted on Saturday, July 18, 2009 - 10:02 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

We should all just hand over whatever the bad guy wants for the sake of safety?
Do you think maybe the crime rate would be a little higher if we were all pacifist pussies?
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Hdbobwithabuell
Posted on Saturday, July 18, 2009 - 10:05 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

But, do make sure you keep control over your weapon. I agree, the best way to do this is to keep it on your person.
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