| Author | Message | ||
     Amerikian |
For some reason my clock and Trip 1 & 2 will reset back to 12:00 and 0.0. I noticed that sometimes my speed and tach needles will do a power cycle when the key isn't on, and that is when the time and trips reset. I had a blown headlight and replaced that, but can't think of any other reasons why it would do this. Any idears? | ||
| Jlnance |
Your clock will reset if you loose power. There is something wrong in your electrical system. The first thing to check would be the ground connection behind the flyscreen, they are known to break. | ||
| Snojet |
If you have a manual... Look at the wiring diagram and find which wires go to the instrument cluster. Physically locate them and then I would check for a chaffed wire(s). Also, I would suspect you have a battery ground wire that is coming loose momentarily causing everything to reset. Or, the battery power wire might be loose causing the problem. Have to love those electrical problems. Let us know what you find, pics too. (Message edited by snojet on July 15, 2009) | ||
| Etennuly |
Mine did the same thing two days ago. I had never seen it happen before. I was moving the bike in the back of a truck to ride it down the ramp and the needles swept as if I had turned the key on. The key wasn't even in it. "0"'d my tripometers and clock also. Hmmmm. New one!  I did turn it around in the truck, which takes about 10 slow easy lock to lock turns while pushing it back and forth. This is something I do on a regular basis. So breaking the front ground wires off is possible, it has only happened once so far. Oddly the bike runs and performs flawlessly otherwise. That one shouldn't be a ground problem as it would have needed supplied power to make it happen, would it not? Or could it have to do with the power supply that retains the presets in the instrument cluster? I guess if it lost ground it could do the same. Here we go again. I will have to do a count, this would likely be about the tenth wiring problem my bike has had. If these wiring failure/glitch things never happened my bike would have been nearly flawless over three years, 39,000 miles.  Crap. Lately I have been thinking about buying a new complete wiring harness, wrapping the entire thing in plastic automotive sheath and zip tying and taping the crap out of it so that not one inch of it would be exposed anywhere. | ||
| Riderbob |
I recently had problems with my speedo and turn signals not working. I have have an excellent electrician working for me that found a stretched wire. However now my speedo, trip meter and clock are now working intermittently after a trip to San Jose. I suspect he will find the same problems with those wires behind the fly screen. I'll let you all know what he finds friday. | ||
| Merlin_x |
http://www.badweatherbikers.com/buell/messages/142 838/468260.html?1245838865 Check here it helped me. Tom. | ||
| Etennuly |
I just had mine apart this evening, all is good in the harness and under the fly screen. The terminals are tight and clean, I unplugged and replugged all of the wires involved, the red triple splice is still connected and tight, I moved all of the wires around. I checked the grounds in the fly screen and under the seat. I guess tomorrow I will take the air box and base plate off to check in there.  | ||
| Muppet |
Had exactly this problem on my 06 X. Notified it to the dealer who checked it out on numerous occasions over the following 12 months but could never find the fault. Eventually they replaced the entire wiring loom - thankfully under warranty and has since been ok. | ||
| Amerikian |
I took a look under the fly screen but couldn't see anything. I can replicate the "reset" (needle sweeep) by turning the handlebars from end to end. I have an appointment set with HD next Monday to have them look at it. Hopefully they don't confiscate my bike for too long while they try to fix it. I'll keep ya'll posted...and thanx for the feedback. | ||
| Flhman73 |
Ground ,ground,ground thats all I can say ! | ||
| Rays |
Amerikian, this picture is posted on the link that Merlin posted above. As you can see the electrical engineer wasn't consulted by the body guy when the loom guide design was locked in. Nobody in the electrical game would place a splice in a high flex area. The brown wires to the right of the red power ones are the R/H blinker circuit and yes if you do enough miles on an '06 with the original loom guide you will get some more loom repair practice with that one as well.  If you can get the reset to happen by sweeping the bars then I would be very surprised if you don't have the back-up power connection to the instruments broken at the splice. My dealer looked for this twice and couldn't find it, I gave them a copy of the circuit diagram with the wire marked from the instrument connector to the splice and they still couldn't find it! Out of sheer frustration I unwrapped the loom and found the backup wire was broken right at the splice but firmly held by glue-filled heatshrink to give the visual allusion the wire was connected. In the photo above the heatshrink has been stripped off and a short piece of wire added, looped around for stress relief and soldered to the remains of the splice. I covered the splice with electrical tape and wound the original friction tape back around the loom. That was a 'temporary' repair that I haven't got back to finish for over 40,000 miles - must get around to it. It is very easy to unwrap a section of the loom and then you can flex this splice directly - you will see immediately if this is your issue by the sweeping of the instruments. (Message edited by Rays on July 22, 2009) (Message edited by Rays on July 22, 2009) | ||
| Amerikian |
Rays, thanks for the clear information. Assuming my daughter isn't born today, i'll give it a look tonight. I don't even own a soldering gun, but can at least identify the wire for the dealer and let them deal with it since its under warranty and i won't be doing too much riding with a new born next week. I'm finally going to get my MC license today (road test). I figure i've riden for 3 years with only temps or expired temps so i should probably get that taken care of. Thanks again for the info. | ||
| Etennuly |
Here is what I found in my wiring harness today. The red wire(inst memory power) was separated from the other two but still touching, the brown wire(rt turn signal) is nearly broken through.  It seemed fine when the heat shrink was still on it. I have been in this harness three times now checking stuff over. The jointed area looked and felt as if it were perfect. This time I cut the heat shrink to get more than a feel for the breaks in the wires. Sure enough they were indeed broken. | ||
| Etennuly |
Test rode it this morning, set the clock and had it stay for the first time in a long while. I made an extension wire for the splices. It started just in front of the LSS and goes one piece up to within a few inches of the top end of the wire harness. I did the triple splice there to keep it away from the movement of the forks. I did the same with the brown wires. This allowed for four less wires through the steering neck wire clamp. I used automotive plastic wire sheath to cover the wire bundle and taped it on the outside for a clean finish. | ||
| Mnrider |
Thanks for the follow-up on that Etennuly. I hope this finishes your wire harness problems for a while. | ||
| Etennuly |
Thanks! This is a part of it for sure. I have been going over the mid section also. | ||
| Etennuly |
I want to thank Rays for the 'cut off that heat shrink' idea. It really looked and felt as if no problem could even be in there!  Chances are I may have over-looked that and tried it again.  | ||
| Etennuly |
Back on the road it is working fine. Nice to have it work correctly for a full tank of fuel with many stops. The clock is on the right time for the first time in a long while also. Now if I can get past that run/skippy crap! | ||
| Johnshore |
I just found this post. I cleaned battery terminals and checked grounds to no avail. I found this post, ran out to the shed, turned on the bike and swept the bars right to left and everything reset. You guts are great.  |
