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Snowscum
Posted on Tuesday, December 05, 2006 - 11:56 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Need a way to lift my Uly to change out tires.
What seems to work for you guys?
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Nutsosane
Posted on Wednesday, December 06, 2006 - 12:50 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Rear stand and automotive jack. I also put 2 hooks in the basement ceiling and attach straps to the handlebars: if for nothing more than piece of mind. I just bought a standard rear lift and rearranged the mounting pins to allow for greater width. The automotive jack goes under the muffler allowing the front to be raised. I have heard very good things about the Pitbull stands but was unwilling to fork over the $$$. I'll try to post up a pic tomorrow as my Uly is in the basement awaiting new tire fitment. NUTS
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Ft_bstrd
Posted on Wednesday, December 06, 2006 - 12:51 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

The best method is to craft two "U" shaped cradles out of 2x4s, tie the two together with a cross member, and use a hydraulic jack to lift from the jack points on the muffler.

You can use a tie down strap in addition, but I've seen Chad Hargis' set-up in action.

"You don't need no stinkin' straps."
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Nutsosane
Posted on Wednesday, December 06, 2006 - 02:52 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Ft, that method leaves you S O L when you want to pull the muffler for replacement or re-paint. Among many other tasks ie rotating the engine to change out headers. Take it as you wish; I paid $80 for the universal rear stand and have used it successfully no less than 20 times on both of my Buell's.You have the advantage of being able to sit on the bike when employing the rear stand for a myriad of uses. Try that on the muffler only lift device, video please! NUTS
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Jmhinkle
Posted on Wednesday, December 06, 2006 - 06:08 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Nuts, What stand did you get? I'm looking for a cheap one that will still work well and it sounds like you have one.
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Aeholton
Posted on Wednesday, December 06, 2006 - 07:32 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

For changing out both tires at the same time, I use the U-shaped 2" x 4" w/ motorcycle hydraulic jack method. For rear tire only, muffler removal, oil changes, and other things I use my universal rear stand.
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Jlnance
Posted on Wednesday, December 06, 2006 - 07:50 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I will admit to being rather impressed the day I had was trying to back the Uly into a tight spot and Webethumpin picked up the back end and moved it over. Perhaps he is available for tire change assistance as well?
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Snowscum
Posted on Wednesday, December 06, 2006 - 09:07 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Pictures anyone?
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Paochow
Posted on Wednesday, December 06, 2006 - 09:25 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Here is mine.. I use it with one of those craftsman motorcycle jacks, clearance is tight slidding it in, but it is solid when lifted. I ended up putting some old inner tube pieces on the contact points and it sticks pretty well, I still use straps on it when I'm taking a wheel off, and borrow my friend's rear wheel stand for muffler removal.

http://www.thumpertalk.com/forum/garage.php?do=vie wmod&mid=33174
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Bienhoabob
Posted on Wednesday, December 06, 2006 - 09:34 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Did a search for you. Here's a template for making the wooden blocks that support the muffler.
http://www.badweatherbikers.com/buell/messages/142 838/159410.html#POST546023
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Reepicheep
Posted on Wednesday, December 06, 2006 - 09:34 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Two cheap jack stands and a piece of rebar through the hollow rear axle works great if you don't have to pull off the wheels. You don't even need the jack, you just lean the bike on one while you wratchet up the other a notch. It sounds hard, but its pretty easy.

(edited for confusing typo)

(Message edited by reepicheep on December 06, 2006)
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Treadmarks
Posted on Wednesday, December 06, 2006 - 10:26 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Or, if you have a touratech bashplate, all you need is a floor jack.
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Chadhargis
Posted on Wednesday, December 06, 2006 - 12:39 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I use the Craftsman jack with the homemade template for removing the wheels. If I need to remove the muffler, I just leave it on the sidestand. No reason to lift it.

Other than that, I have a Pit Bull rear stand that works just fine (not the special "wide" version). I have a front stand for the forks, but for some funky reason the Buell forks are not an even length, so it doesn't work. The side with the pinch bolt is longer. What's up with that??
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Snowscum
Posted on Wednesday, December 06, 2006 - 02:09 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Thanks for tips guys. Going to fab up something up today.
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Snowscum
Posted on Wednesday, December 06, 2006 - 02:44 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Is the stock pipe the same radius as stock?
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Ft_bstrd
Posted on Wednesday, December 06, 2006 - 03:45 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Is the stock pipe the same radius as stock?



Can you phrase that in the form of....um.....something else?
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Ft_bstrd
Posted on Wednesday, December 06, 2006 - 03:46 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Nuts,

If you are taking off both wheels, the muffler, and rotating the engine all at the same time, there is not a stand on the planet that will help you.

Most mortals would do the wheels or the muffler/engine rotation, but not both at the same time. ;)
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Snowscum
Posted on Wednesday, December 06, 2006 - 04:20 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Oops it should of said "Is the stock pipe the same radius as the race pipe."

(Message edited by snowscum on December 06, 2006)
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Ft_bstrd
Posted on Wednesday, December 06, 2006 - 05:21 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Both are the same radius, I believe.
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Chadhargis
Posted on Wednesday, December 06, 2006 - 06:29 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

To my knowledge they are. And both have lift points on them.
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Snowscum
Posted on Wednesday, December 06, 2006 - 08:01 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I just confirmed since my bike is not at home.

So when you talk lift points most likely are near the clamps? I appreciate the help guys.
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Ft_bstrd
Posted on Wednesday, December 06, 2006 - 10:48 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

The lift points should be marked with arrows on the race muffler.
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Stevem123
Posted on Thursday, December 07, 2006 - 12:07 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Twist the throttle and hold on!!
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Paochow
Posted on Thursday, December 07, 2006 - 09:34 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Race pipe and stock pipe have different jack points, the Race pipe's jack points are further apart than the stockers.
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Rhinowerx
Posted on Thursday, December 07, 2006 - 10:49 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

To remove wheels, I use the jack and cut out blocks to support the bike - provides nice workable height.



To remove the muffler, I use a condor stand together with a pit bull for the rear





Cheers
-Jack
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Wesman
Posted on Thursday, December 07, 2006 - 12:12 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Rhino-

Where did you get that rear wheel spool adapter for your pitbull? ....(it looks like the coffee tamper for my espresso machine)

Wes
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Snowscum
Posted on Thursday, December 07, 2006 - 12:13 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Jack: Looks like your drive belt is worn on the teeth like mine was. The idler pulley change out fixed mine. Id keep an eye on it while still under warrenty. Great pictures. Thanks for posting them.
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Electraglider_1997
Posted on Thursday, December 07, 2006 - 03:03 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Here's a tip for strapping the bike while up on the lift. Strap each side of the handlebar to the garage door opener rails that are on most all garage ceilings. You know, right where they bolt the hangers into a joist on either side. Bike can't tip to either side once you do that.
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Paochow
Posted on Thursday, December 07, 2006 - 09:08 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Wesman, they are the dark horse moto race axle sliders. Daves at Appleton HD sells them. They work great except you can't remove the rear wheel with them installed.
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Nutsosane
Posted on Friday, December 08, 2006 - 03:15 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Rhino, I'm getting the heebies just looking at that set-up. As always if YOU are confident in it then that's all that matters. My "Lockhart Phillips" universal rear stand was $80 and gives me the confidence to attempt most service issues on the XB platform. For most here that are budgetarily constrained like me I needed to get the most out of what I already had. Tiedowns and a 3 ton floor jack were a nice compliment to the rear stand and have been faultless thus far. I am greatly satisfied to see so many of us filling the gap in Buell's service with our own vigor. Wrench on! NUTS
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Ft_bstrd
Posted on Friday, December 08, 2006 - 09:18 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Nuts,

I was a little spooked at first when I saw Chad's bike on the "wooden U" set-up.

You can't pull one off unless you work at it. In fact, you don't really even need the tie-down straps. They merely provide peace of mind as a belt and suspenders solution. You have a perfectly match cradle mated with the perfectly balanced jack points (Jack points established by BMC not us!). It is stable, and more importantly, the jackpoints matched with the cradle create 500 lbs of friction point that keep it from toppling over.

Like I said, you have to intentionally pull the bike off the cradle to make it fall.
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Xbimmer
Posted on Friday, December 08, 2006 - 09:47 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

... If you live in Kalifornia you'll want to tie it down...
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