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Ratbuell
Posted on Thursday, July 02, 2009 - 04:34 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

So, I had a 2.5hr slab ride today. People suck.

That said, I stopped at Radio Shack on the way home, after turning the idea over in my head for a while. Couple diodes from 'da Shack, and my Uly shop manual, and I've figured out *how* to do it...I just need to build the circuit and place it so it gets airflow (the diode heats up pretty quick).

Here's the plan:

Wiring from the left switch housing has position 3 / white, and position 4 / yellow with black tracer. White is highbeam, yellow/black is horn.

Putting the diode in correctly allows power to get to the high beam circuit, when hitting the horn, but no power to the horn when the high beams are on. PRESTO. Audible *and* visual alert, on one button. Honk the horn, the brights come on at the same time.

Again...I tested my theory and it works. Just need to figure out mounting. But, with my aux lights wired to high beam, and the high beam mod - they're gonna get an earful of horn, and a faceful of (4) lights.

Did I mention that cagers suck? <sigh>
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Teeps
Posted on Thursday, July 02, 2009 - 08:35 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Are you doing this so people will move over so you can filter forward?
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Florida_lime
Posted on Thursday, July 02, 2009 - 08:56 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Are you doing this so people will move over so you can filter forward?

Not everyone can ride by California rules !

I think it is for more visual conspicuousness when a cage attempts a typical stupid move.


(Message edited by Florida_lime on July 02, 2009)
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Ratbuell
Posted on Friday, July 03, 2009 - 10:09 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Yep, it's for "shock and awe" effect. They cut me off, I honk, they ignore. It still won't do a damned bit of good, I'm sure...but I'll feel better.

And if I see one more GDMF cell phone up to someone's head while they're driving....is that just a pet peeve? Or does it bother other folks, too?

Sorry. Rant off. : )
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Rwven
Posted on Friday, July 03, 2009 - 10:22 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Whatta you have for a horn? My Stebel Nautilus doesn't seem to get ignored! Funny how cagers suddenly wake up when they thing they are about to hit a big truck....

+1 on the cell phone, I get the urge to make them eat it.

(Message edited by rwven on July 03, 2009)
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Ratbuell
Posted on Friday, July 03, 2009 - 10:28 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Stock horn right now...but I think I may get a stock M2 horn. Kim's M2L is L-O-U-D, right from the factory.

People ignore my '05 Ram 2500 when it honks at 'em - and it weighs on the order of 2.5 tons empty. I seriously believe that if you ask 10 people if there are actually other people on the road with them, 8 of them would look at you and say "huh?". <sigh> I wish *I* was the only person on the planet, it'd make life MUCH easier : )
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Teeps
Posted on Friday, July 03, 2009 - 10:56 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Florida_lime Posted on Thursday, July 02, 2009 - 08:56 pm: ard?

Not everyone can ride by California rules !


If not for L.A. weather, filtering, and that I was born here (2nd gen); I'd move in a heart beat.
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Ronmold
Posted on Friday, July 03, 2009 - 11:18 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

If the diode is getting hot that means all the power for the lights are going through the horn switch. I doubt the switch can handle the horn current and the lighting current without eminent failure for very long. Use the horn switch to drive a double pole relay (more Radio Shack fodder). Supply both the relay inputs with bat+ and run one out to the horn (now you can put in the Stebel or whatever) and the other out to the lights. Diodes no longer needed. I could draw a diagram if you would like.
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Electraglider_1997
Posted on Friday, July 03, 2009 - 11:19 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Ratbuell,
It's not a pet peeve. I teach MSF courses and I always warn students that cars with cell phone impaired drivers will be a daily hazard to them. Naturally everyone of those students is a cell phone impaired car driver so they all give me that dead stare like I am so full of shiite. I do not own a cell phone. Grew up without it and live just fine without it and it's monthly bill. My wife never complains about not having one and my 17 year old motorcycle loving son could care less about cell phones. It is just one more way for "The Man" to have his hand in your pocket and for the government to track you down. As for those of you that will say that for an emergency they are a godsend, I say that this great country was built without computers and cell phones and tv's and anything else that we all just can't seem to live without these days. Yeah, I have a computer and a couple of tv's but I am not getting a cell phone.

(Message edited by electraglider_1997 on July 03, 2009)
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Paul56
Posted on Friday, July 03, 2009 - 02:19 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Teeps: +1!
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Jphish
Posted on Friday, July 03, 2009 - 03:47 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Cell phone focused cage drivers are eventually going to wipe us riders out. The HURT report should be updated to reflect the statistics of it's effect on MC/car accidents & people who still think they can do 2 things at once. The studies show that even if "hands free" they still are distracted and unaware. No diff in the accident rate with/without a blutooth. They are an absolute fn' menace!!! I give them a wide berth.
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Teeps
Posted on Friday, July 03, 2009 - 06:22 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

And, I though I was the only one that didn't own an infernal cell phone...

Unless you're the President with your finger on "The Red Button", or in a life or death situation. There is nothing that important that can't wait 'til you get home.
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Joypipe
Posted on Friday, July 03, 2009 - 06:46 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

My 139db Stebel Nautilus doesn't get ignored. I've actually talked to someone after they got out of the car and they were scared senseless by the horn.

It's easy to install and anyone in the CoSpr area I'll help. Or further if you pay the gas money : )

-Chris
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Hooper
Posted on Friday, July 03, 2009 - 11:39 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I swear, I learn something new about ElectraGlider every time he chimes in. Fascinating. I love to think back to the days (about 10 years ago) when most people didn't have a cell phone. You had to show up when you said you'd show up, and the person you were picking up had to be outside and waiting at the time you said you'd be there. There are a million jokes about the percentage of cell phone calls that begin with "Where are you?" In the "old" days, you were either at home or at work, or at some pay phone in between. Funny. Personally, I think they're an amazing gift as long as you remind yourself that you don't have to answer it every time it rings...people expect you to be reachable at every minute of every day. Nah...if I don't wanna' talk to anyone, I let them leave a message and talk to them later. Now, if you don't leave a message...

Rat! Shame on you for having such a tricked out Uly but a stock horn! On the other hand, if you had a Stebel or another deafening horn, you might want to use it TOO much, as I do. I almost WANT to see a car drift a bit so I can remind them to pay attention to DRIVING while they're DRIVING. The Stebel is just plain awesome...I've seen drivers literally JUMP in their seat when I give them a blast.

One of my biggest fears? It's the cager with the cell phone held to their left ear...it almost guarantees they won't look left or check their blindspot before changing lanes or turning. My new car has the Bluetooth wired directly into the soundsystem...true hands-free. It's amazing.

Ride on...happy 4th!
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Ratbuell
Posted on Saturday, July 04, 2009 - 10:18 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Honestly, the Stebel has been on my radar for a while...but I'm usually on back roads (I can commute totally to and from work without going within a mile of a slab), so it's been a low priority. Large LED signals for intersection turns (so they know where I'm going next) and nice bright aux lights (for deer-free after-dark returns home) have been the focus for now. But if I have to keep slabbing it...and I might have to start soon....a Stebel is definitely on the list, at least for the bad weather. Nice weather, the S2 is my slab ride, all the time. LOVE that bike on the highway!

Hooper - my wife's car had the handsfree bluetooth thru the stereo (05 Magnum R/T). While I still don't care for it...it honestly wasn't any more distracting than talking to a passenger. Too bad that car got totalled....BY A BIMBO TALKING ON A CELL PHONE WHO RAN A STOP SIGN. We were coming from her left - guess where she had the phone stuck - and she t-boned us hard enough to pop off the side airbags. Oh well. I have an EFI Hemi powertrain now, for my '72 Plymouth Satellite Wagon : )
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Ourdee
Posted on Saturday, July 04, 2009 - 10:45 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Ratbuell, My air horn has woke up more than one person. Saved me 2 days ago, I was passing on a country road when the cager drifted left. I thought I was on the mint 400 track with a buggy coming over, only this horn got some action out of the cage.

I always wanted to mount a .50 cal.
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