| Author | Message | ||
     Froggy |
I have the GP style reverse shifting, and occasionally when shifting hard, the lever gets stuck down. The bike goes into the gear fine, but the lever doesn't spring back up and I have to get my foot under it and prop it up. If I push on the shifter gently, it won't do that. Any ideas? I am going to put to back to standard shifting and see if it still does it. | ||
| Snakebreak |
Just curious, do you really need to upshift out of the turn when your pegs are dragging on a Ulysses? | ||
| Froggy |
Yes  Also, I put it back to standard shift as I was dropping it off at my dealer, and no matter how hard I tried I couldn't get the lever to stick either up or down shift. I hate standard shift, stupid government mandating my controls, next I am moving the front brake to somewhere else. | ||
| Tootal |
Froggy, sounds like it's external since it doesn't do it when in stock form. Check any joints that might be stiff when rotated. Too tight of a bolt might be pinching or something is rubbing against a lever. I know if I find a bolt that's tight, just rubbing it against my lever will make a stiff joint!  | ||
| Froggy |
I got the bike back from the dealer. It does great in stock shifting mode, but gets stuck when in GP shift mode. I flipped it back and forth a few times. | ||
| Skinstains |
Froggy, look at the angles on the linkage. What you want are a bunch of 90 degree angles. Am I explaining it well enough ? Just try to make everything as close to a 90 as you can one component at a time starting with the shaft and see if that works. | ||
| Tootal |
Can you shoot us a photo of the GP mounted? Might help since I'm not familiar with it. | ||
| Skinstains |
"GP" is just reversing the shift pattern from 1 down and the rest up to 1 up the rest down. It's easily done on the XB's by spinning the shift shaft clamp 180 degrees (give or take). All the parts used are the same ones that come on the bike. | ||
| Sanchez |
GP shift isn't a fantastic idea. It makes it easier to nail an upshift, but that doesn't really matter unless you're drag racing. It makes it more difficult to grab a downshift, which could be critical. If you miss an upshift coming out of a corner, what's the consequence? You aren't going as fast as you wanted. OTOH, if you miss a downshift coming into a corner, what happens? You're going faster than you wanted. Personally, both my street and track bikes are setup for standard shift because I'd rather risk missing an upshift on the exit than missing a downshift on the entry. | ||
| Steve_mackay |
Froggy, I think your problem is something with the shift linkage that doesn't work 100% right when flipping to the 'gp style'. Call Bud Curtis at Hals. 262-860-2060 Hals/Bilansky use some combination of stuff from XBs and Tubers and Bud will know what you need. | ||
| Hardlya |
If part of the shift linkage is getting over center in the reverse pattern then I can see it binding up on occasion. | ||
| Tginnh |
Froggy, trade your Uly for a Norton - they GP shift out of the crate. | ||
| Froggy |
Good idea. If I got a Norton I wouldn't ever need to do an oil change again, it would all leak out before its due.... | ||
| Barker |
If this helps. My niner and uly are GP shift. I have never ran into this problem. It might be the angles, but evidently I'm doing something right. Maybe mine are @ ideal angles. I also had no problem on my M2 and X1. (Message edited by barker on April 14, 2009) | ||
| Froggy |
I am playing around with it, I ran it like this since last summer with no issue till recently. The only thing I can think of is the Uly peg brackets being lower are giving me more leverage, but I had them on for a few months before having this issue. | ||
| Skinstains |
Froggy, Be the shifter, Be the shifter. Look at it and try to picture what I was saying about that 90 degrees stuff. Draw a line (in your head) splitting the shift shaft and projecting thru the part of the clamp on the shaft the lolipop (heim) goes to. Now make sure the lolipop is perpendicular to that line. Now make sure the shift lever is perpendicular to the lolipop. Now make sure the bolt holding the shifter on isn't too tight by moving it up and down without changing gears and see if it comes back every time. It should. You may have to take the lever bolt out and clean both the bolt and the hole and use some locktite and just keep tightening it by feel and test. | ||
| Froggy |
I forgot to update you guys, I adjusted the shifter, made it all as close to 90 degrees as I could, and its shifting fine now. Only issue is that there is a huge gap between the shifter and my foot, so I need to lift my foot up regardless of which way I'm shifting. I will end up ordering one of those kits from Hal's. |
