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Dr_greg
Posted on Saturday, January 24, 2009 - 12:13 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Over on ADV I just saw some "forward" or "highway" (as I guess they're called) pegs for the Uly.

Now, pardon my ignorance, but...WHY? I've always been extremely comfortable in what I consider the "semi-sporting" position of the Uly. Trying to put my feet forward results in a loss of comfort, particularly in my back.

Do some people find this position comfortable?

Also, don't you run the risk of a bee flying up your pants? (don't laugh...happened to me once wearing shorts on a recumbent bicycle!)

--Doc
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Ft_bstrd
Posted on Saturday, January 24, 2009 - 12:16 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

After riding an HD for years, there are residual effects.

One of which is the need for highway pegs.



EVERY SINGLE inquiry as to the potential for adding highway pegs has come from a former HD/cruiser owner.


I don't get it either.

(Message edited by ft_bstrd on January 24, 2009)
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Panhead_dan
Posted on Saturday, January 24, 2009 - 01:05 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I definatly can see the need to change positions while riding any longer distances in order to keep the old blood flowing but forward does not work for this old Harley rider. It might if there was a back rest to lean on. Hooking my heels over the passenger pegs is a lot more comfortable for me. It has the added benefit of placing my upper body a little more foreword, into the wind. I'm able to find the balance point of wind resistance this way and don't have to strain in the wind at all.
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12x9sl
Posted on Saturday, January 24, 2009 - 01:19 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

While I understand why some people would want highway pegs (being a former Harley owner myself) I usually find myself in the same riding position as Panhead Dan. It seems to help me keep my back straighter-better posture.
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Maximum
Posted on Saturday, January 24, 2009 - 01:39 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

The Uly already had all the riding positions I need on long trips. I love the standard riding position...and use it 95% of the time on an extended journey. The other 5% of the time I either use the rear pegs (one or both legs) which eases any pressure points...or I drape one leg at a time over the frame puck which helps me stretch out my hamstrings a little.
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Ft_bstrd
Posted on Saturday, January 24, 2009 - 01:41 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I stop every 150 miles and stretch my legs.


I also ride with my legs just dangling. I have to pick up my feet for road seams, though.

(Message edited by ft_bstrd on January 24, 2009)
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Strada
Posted on Saturday, January 24, 2009 - 01:53 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Those will be mine!
After a 800 mile 4 day trip a few months back and one of those days was 400 miles straight (apart from refuelling), I found that I was having to hold my legs out-stretched to give some relief and get some circulation back.
I cobbled up some 'cruiser pegs' and they were excellent at providing relief on longer rides. They have been very popular so obviously others have the same issue.
Not sure why I've suddenly had this issue but I've always had sport-bikes in the past so maybe it's my textile gear that causes the problem - always had leathers. They are nor supposed to be the full-time riding position, only there to provide stints of relief.
Anyway, they do work and now looking forward to my 3000 mile trip in the spring around Europe.
PS. I've never had a Harley but will never-say-never!
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Tootal
Posted on Saturday, January 24, 2009 - 02:01 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I still have a Harley and love my highway pegs but I have a backrest too. Nothing like cruising in the barcalounger! The Uly for the most part is comfortable but I too have to stretch my legs on longer rides and a forward peg would be nice for some temporary relief. It wouldn't be the position of choice like on the Geezer Glide but just a refreshing option. I can't see doing it unless I stopped going off road, doesn't look good for that.
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Etennuly
Posted on Saturday, January 24, 2009 - 02:24 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I have never had a Harley. Don't want one, don't need one.

I am however looking into the forward peg idea for the long rides. Even though there is plenty of seat room to use, and I dangle my feet as needed, I want a forward position to stretch my legs and straighten my busted up old knees once in a while. Heck, I cannot even sit on a couch for more than ten minutes without moving around.
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Strada
Posted on Saturday, January 24, 2009 - 02:54 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

How can this not be a welcome relief

I sold a kit a few weeks back to a guy who was about to sell his Ulysses due to bad injury problems but now can keep it! Very satisfying.

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Thetable
Posted on Saturday, January 24, 2009 - 03:02 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I keep considering them mainly because my knees are shot. And to keep them crunched up for 8+ hours gets painful.
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Ratbuell
Posted on Saturday, January 24, 2009 - 03:36 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I'm not all that worried about highway pegs for my Uly. I just wish someone would make a freakin' crash bar for it! (and no, powers stuntworx is no help...).
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Strada
Posted on Saturday, January 24, 2009 - 04:40 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Crash Bars are difficult because there is no framework around the engine. That's why my Cruiser-Peg kit had to mount back to the main-frame otherwise transmitting engine vibration through the pegs wouldn't be favourable!
I've added Crash-Bobbins and Bar-Ends which keep the ground away from the engine if it goes down. I have also discovered that the side cases are extremely robust and are a massive help if the bike takes a tumble!
The standard hand-guards do nothing to protect the levers so the bar-ends can save on the more expensive levers plus less likely to leave you stranded.
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Unibear12r
Posted on Saturday, January 24, 2009 - 04:45 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

By the end of my trip back home to Cali from the Wall in D.C. in 06 I would have killed for a set of highway pegs on my Uly.
And I've never owned a bike with them installed.
I was unable to hook my feet over the passenger pegs and stretch due to the bags but eventually found that doing the "leg lifts from hell" would do the same thing. Holding your legs out aimed at the front wheel at 80+ mph for ten minutes every so often without something to rest them on was way too much like exercise than fun. Superslabbing is bad enough without that. I fully understand the wish for Highway pegs on any touring type bike whether it's a sport, utility, adventure or whatever.
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Strada
Posted on Saturday, January 24, 2009 - 04:50 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)


http://palmerproducts.auto.officelive.com/buellxb1 2x.aspx
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Ulykan
Posted on Saturday, January 24, 2009 - 06:16 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Strada,
As good as you are at engineering practical and useful products for the Uly, why don't you design a heat shield for the headers? As many owners complain regularly about heat, this would be a great relief to them and possibly a big seller for you. I'd buy them in a heartbeat.
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Nevrenuf
Posted on Saturday, January 24, 2009 - 08:21 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

it's easy to do the rear peg thing when your solo but my wife likes to ride with me so a lot of times that isn't an option. it's like having bags. if you never had them, you don't miss them. i like the idea for the superslab rides.
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Dr_greg
Posted on Saturday, January 24, 2009 - 09:51 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

How can this not be a welcome relief...

OK, ok...I guess part of it is that I come from a sportbike/dirtbike background and never had my legs preceding me (except on the aforementioned recumbent bicycle).

Different strokes and all that. Just seems weird to me. But then I seem weird to those folks, I'm sure. Thanks for the feedback.

--Doc
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Diablobrian
Posted on Saturday, January 24, 2009 - 11:48 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I've always felt like I have less control over the bike with my feet forward, and being a
control junkie.......I personally can't stand riding with my feet out in front of me.

Then again I've seen some (looking at Norice) ride their Buell with their feet on
their handlebars on the highway, so in comparison I guess it's better, but it's been
my experience that accidents come at you really fast an that half second it takes to
get your hands/feet back on the controls could cost you very dearly. However that is
the choice you have to make. Life is a constant weighing of risk vs reward.

No one else can tell you where your personal scales tilt. Which is why even though
I'm an ardent ATGATT guy and "gear nazi" I am also anti-helmet law, even though it makes
my stomach do a slow roll every time I see a rider on the road with little/no gear, it's
their choice, but I worry about them and their families.

I know I wandered off topic a bit, but it's all about personal choice.

That's all I'm saying.

Really.

I'm shutting up now.

Done rambling.

I'm not one to run off at the mouth you know.

Peace Out

(War In ; ))
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Glen
Posted on Sunday, January 25, 2009 - 12:13 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

as a rider with busted up knees that likes to ride long distances, ive hung my legs off the frame pucks for countless miles.

i only wish he made the highway pegs for an 08 : )

its probably from riding dirt bikes but i rarely even use my back brake except to initiate a slide or to track a bike straight.
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Froggy
Posted on Sunday, January 25, 2009 - 01:20 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I usually just put my legs up on top of the frame pucks, problem solved, and great free AC for my nuts in the summer : )
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Strada
Posted on Sunday, January 25, 2009 - 07:31 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Ulykan, having worked on Aero & Thermodynamics testing, I've learned that redirecting or blocking heat transfer can have a knock-on effect elsewhere and obvious changes don't always do what you think! I think I'll leave Buell to that one. Might think about a side duct to channel the heat from the RHS opening to help with the leg roast.

Hope to have the 08MY bits available at the end of the week subject to convincing my prototype supplier to get some priority on it.
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Brag918
Posted on Sunday, January 25, 2009 - 08:33 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I also would have killed for a set on my last ride, 3200 miles in 7 days. Got a set from Strada, waiting for the weather to break to install them.
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Tootal
Posted on Sunday, January 25, 2009 - 12:50 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I usually just put my legs up on top of the frame pucks, problem solved, and great free AC for my nuts in the summer
If I tried that my knees would hit me in the chin!
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Nevrenuf
Posted on Sunday, January 25, 2009 - 05:46 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

what about cruise/throttle lock for the uly strada.
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Unibear12r
Posted on Sunday, January 25, 2009 - 09:03 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

No problem Dr G. I understand the sport bike.
Highway pegs will never be a part of my 1125.
I like many types of riding, it's just different tools for different types of riding.
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Hooper
Posted on Sunday, January 25, 2009 - 10:58 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Strada, thanks for the new photo of what the rider looks like with the forward pegs...IT LOOKS NORMAL! I'm amazed!

I've got long legs (6'3") and have started putting my boots on the rear peg on long rides to give them a stretch. Just long enough to bring them back to life. My Harley-Davidson Street Bob came with mid-controls, but I changed them to forward controls because of comfort and style. That said, I left the mid-pegs on so I could change position now and then. It's important to me. Forward controls with mini-ape-hangers can do a number on your back.

My friends (and now my girlfriend/future fiancee) call me "Options Man". I love to have lots of choices!
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Road_kill
Posted on Sunday, January 25, 2009 - 11:39 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I've got highway pegs on both my Super Glide & Sportster. Love them. I think they work on HD's because the buckhorn handlebars allow for the laid-back "Lazyboy on wheels" riding position. I didn't think the more upright/forward ULY riding position would work well with the forward pegs. However, the pics above look very compelling. Got to keep my eye on that one. May need to put it on my list; right after ceramic coated pipes (Dr. Greg blue), thermal barrier on inside of frame, XB9 primary, new rear tire, ...

For now, I'll stick to the usual: rear pegs, dangling my feet, and my favorite leg stretcher - standing up! This weekend, while on a deserted, straight country road, I stood up for a couple of minutes. Even no hands for a little bit. Really felt great.
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Sanchez
Posted on Wednesday, January 28, 2009 - 05:29 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Awesome! That is exactly what I need. Leg dangling is OK, but I can't really relax doing that because my feet drag the ground. I smacked my big toe on a reflector at 90 mph once, and it hurt like hell.
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12x9sl
Posted on Wednesday, January 28, 2009 - 05:51 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Sanchez, boy does that sound familiar. The only difference if I hit a raised pavement seam-not good.
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