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Electraglider_1997
Posted on Thursday, December 25, 2008 - 12:18 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

http://www.themotorreport.com.au/15629/harley-davi dson-oz-hits-record-sales-for-2008/
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Werewulf
Posted on Thursday, December 25, 2008 - 10:52 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

that must be regional...two of the biggest dealers in florida, have inventory up the yang.. yesterday, a lead salesman told me that last month was the smallest paycheck he has had in twenty years of sales..
another sales woman at the daytona harley just got laid off due to a soft market..
then again, it might be harley propaganda, to keep people buying...
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Cityxslicker
Posted on Thursday, December 25, 2008 - 02:22 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Its all how you play the statistics.
Like say the nightster, it is the number one selling sportster, and this year we have surpassed last years numbers year to date; but that doesnt tell the whole story about the rest of the line up.

I do wish that who ever came up with that copper color for 08 and the 105th anniversary realizes what an abyssmal failure that was.
As far as our shop goes... I am glad I am on vacation until February 09.
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Tom_barnyard
Posted on Thursday, December 25, 2008 - 03:26 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

The story says 'record sales for Australia.'

Every HD article I have read states that US sales are down, but overseas are up, way up. A weaker US dollar will only help export sales.

Tom B
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Werewulf
Posted on Thursday, December 25, 2008 - 03:35 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

the "baby boomers" have only got about ten years of riding left and thats not good for harley...damn, i guess im one too!
as you can see from my profile, ive owned a buell or two and twice as many harleys...

im really starting to get bored with the harley "lifer" thing.. in fact my new roadking is on the block and im keeping the uly....i was even looking a BMWs this week...ive owned 3 of them too...yawn!
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Treadmarks
Posted on Thursday, December 25, 2008 - 11:15 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

my HD stock is/was 70% down the last few months. It's gonna be a slow recovery.
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Hangetsu
Posted on Thursday, December 25, 2008 - 11:42 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

<<the>>

I'd say 20... late baby boomer - 1959 ; )
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Werewulf
Posted on Friday, December 26, 2008 - 05:54 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

harleys new strategy is to make less bikes, to keep the price up... but with fewer buyers, there goes that idea...
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Cityxslicker
Posted on Friday, December 26, 2008 - 07:41 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

you figure genX starts right about the time baby boomers start to have kids...
Your typical stat for average Harley Davidson is about 42... Guess who is turning 42? Guess who has angst and cash to burn it on, and maybe a new divorce too.
42 has always been the magical number. As my first sales manager said, theres a new batch of 42 year olds every year, and every spring a new host of divorces...
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Jammin_joules
Posted on Friday, December 26, 2008 - 08:14 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I have a friend in Michigan who owned other Harley's and dirt bikes when he was younger but who progressed most recently through the following series of bikes, (all of which he still owns)
1965 panhead
a 1200 Sportster
a Dyna Low Rider
a Buell Lightning

He will turn 60 in 2010 and went from 50 hp to 103hp. Old guys were going fast before young whipper snappers found out it was cool.
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Werewulf
Posted on Friday, December 26, 2008 - 09:27 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

i remember when i was only 60, i rode a v-rod then...
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Carbonsteel
Posted on Saturday, December 27, 2008 - 10:21 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

"He will turn 60 in 2010 and went from 50 hp to 103hp. Old guys were going fast before young whipper snappers found out it was cool."

I know a guy here who rides like a complete maniac. No one can catch on his R1100RT, not even the younger guys on crotch rockets. Guys have been hurt bad trying to keep up with him. He's 72 and still rides all over the country side like a loonatic.
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Tootal
Posted on Saturday, December 27, 2008 - 02:46 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Yep, I got a friend like that too. He's 76 and rides a 97 Ultra. He wears the sides of his tires out before the middle!! He's fun to follow and a work out to stay ahead of!!

I read in this months MCN that Buell was doing much better in sales than Harley. Not in total numbers but percentage wise.

(Message edited by tootal on December 27, 2008)
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Luftkoph
Posted on Sunday, December 28, 2008 - 12:20 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

jan MCnews...... HD is projected to be -15%,BMW-12%,DUCATI -7%,KTM-15%,SUZUKI-14%,TRIUMPH-5% and HONDA--0.13%only BUELL KAWASAKI VICTORY(+72%) and YAMAHA are in the black.
BUELL sold 4796 units in 07 and is projecting 4830 in 08
HD sold 263.253units in 07 and is projected to move 219,481 in 08
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Werewulf
Posted on Sunday, December 28, 2008 - 07:32 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

and 100 in 09...
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Court
Posted on Sunday, December 28, 2008 - 08:07 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

It's a bit of a useless comparison . . . orgasms and origami.
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