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Johnboy777
Posted on Friday, December 19, 2008 - 03:17 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Thought I'd post a few pics of the final product I received from Balias over on BuelletinBoard.

I initially ordered the elbow/brace from him and was so impressed with his quality of workmanship, that I had him build me his whole exhaust system using my MagnaFlow muffler.

I purchased the MagnaFlow muffler originally thinking I'd have a local shop fab it up for me. I then purchased another muffler (Sweet-thunder open-chamber muffler) and had an old Cherry Bomb lying around as well, and took them all down to the muffler shop just to see how they all sounded connected to the elbow/brace I had from Balias. I even borrowed a Flowmaster from the guys shop for my test.

It took a few hours but we hooked them all up outside and I ran the bike on its sidestand through all the mufflers - no road test... and yes, sadly, duct tape was involved. Each muffler got only a few minutes of run-time, as I was only interested in the sound quality here between the mufflers.

Long story short - the MagnaFlow sounded the best of all, by a big margin, nice and mellow, with that old muscle car exhaust note. It was at that point that I contacted Balias to build me the whole system for my Uly.

According to Balias, Mike (Xopti) on BuelletinBoard has run some tests for him - here's some of his comments to me:

""Good news though....some of the results are in from Mike (Xopti)...under both Stock and Race ECM's its safe to run. AFV stays within +/- 5%. So Im hoping youll be happy with it. I know I love mine.""

At any rate, I think these guys might be on to something here... and for those of you wishing to fab up a system yourself the MagnaFlow muffler is 11148.

Balias charges $450 IIRC for his stainless steel MagnaFlow system (my actual cost differed because he used my MagnaFlow 11148 muffler).

Everyone has a differing opinion with regard to what sounds good, but to me, this thing sounds 'great', and it's well worth the price of admission for the sound alone.

I hope it's not too loud for the neighborhood, though!

Cheers,
John

In this shot, you can see he welds on a narrow stainless strip
to better match the stock rear muffler brace/holder radius


He welds on an all new (shorter) inlet


Here's the new outlets which are welded on, as well


Here's the elbow/brace supplied with the system


The complete system in brushed stainless steel...just beautiful!


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(Message edited by johnboy777 on December 19, 2008)
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Johnboy777
Posted on Friday, December 19, 2008 - 03:23 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

BTW, here's the original post that started it all:

LINK
http://www.badweatherbikers.com/buell/messages/142 838/418220.html?1227142573

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(Message edited by Johnboy777 on December 19, 2008)
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Gbalias
Posted on Friday, December 19, 2008 - 04:00 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Glad you like it!

Now, what are you doing on the computer and not riding?!??!?!?!


Happy holidays John!
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Treadmarks
Posted on Friday, December 19, 2008 - 04:03 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Nice job Johnboy.

Johnboy muffler mod!
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Johnboy777
Posted on Friday, December 19, 2008 - 04:22 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

""Glad you like it!

Now, what are you doing on the computer and not riding?!??!?!?!

Happy holidays John!""


Hey George, you are the man!!!

Thanks again for building me your exhaust system - the craftsmanship is just stellar. I couldn’t be happier with it.

Sadly, unlike Vegas, we have been in the teens followed by freezing rain today, so it might be awhile for the install and its maiden voyage.

Cheers
John H.

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Krassh
Posted on Friday, December 19, 2008 - 04:41 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

It snowed in Vegas Wednesday.
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Armymedic
Posted on Friday, December 19, 2008 - 04:49 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

That is one sweet looking muffler. Could I get it in rusty black?
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Sleez
Posted on Friday, December 19, 2008 - 05:48 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

cool, how hard would it be to get bracket mtg points for the chin fairing, if it would fit at all?

sounds great!!
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Cityxslicker
Posted on Friday, December 19, 2008 - 07:08 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

great looking set up. What is the side height of that set up? compared to stock. I would love to get some extra damn ground clearance.
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Gbalias
Posted on Friday, December 19, 2008 - 07:28 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Sleez:
the chin fairing fits. ive built the brackets for mine. the only reason i dont offer them yet is because ive had some cracking issues on the left side bracket (darn HD Twin vibrations!!!). ive already gone through a couple iterations or redesigns and so far, this last one has lasted the longest. but im still not comfortable selling something that i cant fully back up.

heres my bike with the fairing mounted:



Slicker:
it gives you about an extra 2 inches of clearance or so.

(Message edited by gbalias on December 19, 2008)
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Sleez
Posted on Friday, December 19, 2008 - 07:40 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Gbalias:

thanks, good to know. are they separate brackets or welded to the muffler?
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Gbalias
Posted on Friday, December 19, 2008 - 08:16 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

separate brackets.
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Johnboy777
Posted on Friday, December 19, 2008 - 08:21 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Are you guys NUTZ!

Why would you hide a muffler this beautiful?

(Balias' Bike)



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Hangetsu
Posted on Friday, December 19, 2008 - 11:10 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Any plans for a dyno run?
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Gbalias
Posted on Friday, December 19, 2008 - 11:14 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

i left my fairing off for a loong time. I only put it back cause i was tired of tripping over buell parts in the garage!
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Johnboy777
Posted on Saturday, December 20, 2008 - 12:05 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

""Any plans for a dyno run?""

I plan to run it on the dyno at Biketown HD here locally, after the install. No before and after comparo runs though, as I'm just interested in the where I am (air-to-fuel mixture, powerband, etc.) with the new muffler once installed.... Okay! I'm too lazy for all of that before and after stuff!

Peak horsepower is of no interest to me at all, really, I'm more interested in solid driveability, and good strong power off idle.

Here' a prior post I made on that very topic:
http://www.badweatherbikers.com/buell/messages/142 838/419368.html

I'll post the results when I get them.

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Thesmaz
Posted on Saturday, December 20, 2008 - 03:39 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Gbalias, Which ECM are you running, race or stock? Did/can you use ECMSpy to disable the exhaust valve?
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Gbalias
Posted on Saturday, December 20, 2008 - 04:00 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

im running a tuned stock ECM i programmed. then i left my cable attached but disabled the servo via ECMSpy.
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Thesmaz
Posted on Sunday, December 21, 2008 - 03:07 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Thanks for the info! How much does one of your completed exhaust weigh and how big of a box? Reason I ask is because if I ordered one I'd have to have it shipped USPS (Military stationed overseas).
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Gbalias
Posted on Sunday, December 21, 2008 - 03:40 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

shipping weight is about 14lb.

box is .... 6x10x24 maybe?

perhaps john can chime in here with the dimensions of the box if he didnt trash it already. i think its written on the box.
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Johnboy777
Posted on Sunday, December 21, 2008 - 07:54 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

""perhaps john can chime in here with the dimensions of the box if he didn't trash it already. I think it's written on the box.""

Hey George,

The Box is 20" Long - 10.5" Wide - 6.5" High.

John
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Gbalias
Posted on Sunday, December 21, 2008 - 02:41 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

awesome!


Youre the man.
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Keith_mahoney
Posted on Monday, December 22, 2008 - 10:48 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

"Thanks for the info! How much does one of your completed exhaust weigh and how big of a box? Reason I ask is because if I ordered one I'd have to have it shipped USPS (Military stationed overseas)."

I could have sworn you had an exhaust on your bike already.
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Thesmaz
Posted on Monday, December 22, 2008 - 12:58 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Yep, sure do. I've got the Termignoni on there right now. Considering going a different direction.
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Gbalias
Posted on Tuesday, December 30, 2008 - 09:20 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

you dont like the Termi?
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Thesmaz
Posted on Wednesday, December 31, 2008 - 02:53 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

The exhaust can is great (good sound, not too loud and great power that pulls all the way to redline in 5th) but I've had a couple of issues with the inlet pipe that has the valve in it. The damned thing rattles A LOT - makes it sound like somethings going to fall off, the mounting tabs are a pain and have broken before. There is a rubber grommet that has to be replaced about every 5K miles. I may just someone make me a new inlet pipe and get a race ecm or tune the stock one. No definite decisions right now but I always have my eyes open.
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Gbalias
Posted on Wednesday, December 31, 2008 - 06:20 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

you can get a race ECM for like $50. (thats the cost of the cable) then upload the race data to your stock ECM. done deal. no need to buy a whole new black box. either way you do it, full potential wont be reached unless you tune to your environment and riding style.

can you take some detailed pics for me of the problematic areas on the termi? i MIGHT be able to do a midpipe for ya. maybe. it wont have the valve though.
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Johnboy777
Posted on Wednesday, December 31, 2008 - 06:46 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

""you can get a race ECM for like $50. (thats the cost of the cable) then upload the race data to your stock ECM. done deal. no need to buy a whole new black box. either way you do it, full potential wont be reached unless you tune to your environment and riding style. ""

Strictly speaking, you can't upload the race EEPROM into a stock ECM.

However, you can mimic a lot of the race ECM's parameters in a stock ECM via the newer version of ECMspy.

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Johnboy777
Posted on Friday, January 02, 2009 - 09:38 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Playing with a new toy today (Canon PowerShot A590 IS...$109 on Amazon), and thought I'd post a video of the MagnaFlow exhaust.

I'll post another vid once installed, so you can all hear how it sounds.



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Onemanclan
Posted on Saturday, January 03, 2009 - 10:07 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I have dual magna flows on my 07 Tahoe...Sounds like a vette...
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