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     Firstbatch |
This suggests to me that I'm probably too spoiled by my Uly to be able to enjoy the XR for very long. +1 on that Atom......the Uly stock suspension has to be one of the finest stock offerings on the market and the adjustments provide real performance increases. One of the great enhancements on the Storz XR is his forks...some of the best available. HD is missing the boat by not providing a much better suspension system. You can be real sure that the race series HD is sponsoring with the XR1200 is those bikes will have the stock stuff in a box. | ||||||||||||||||||||
| Ulykan |
While not intending to hijack this thread, I have a question for those of you who work at a dealer. According to my dealer, XRs are available by special order only and dealers aren't able to get even one for show/demo. Having read that apparently at least one dealer has already gotten one in and sold it, what is the story here? Are there XRs available or in order to see one you have to buy one? Just curious. | ||||||||||||||||||||
| Ratbuell |
Initial shipments are 'limited'. The XR is not "readily available" yet for ordering/shipping. When a model is as "anticipated" as this, and the production is not fully up to speed at intro time, demos are not allotted. Most dealers (us included) have the first one/two/three pre-sold/deposits taken, and I doubt there'll be many sitting on floors anytime soon. Remember the release of the Rocker? | ||||||||||||||||||||
| Jammin_joules |
First 750 will be orange and will be shipped only to dealers when they are pre-sold with customer names and addresses on them. After this, March delivery of pewter and black models will allow for demo ride bikes at dealerships. ~jammer | ||||||||||||||||||||
| Ulykan |
Froggy/Jammer, Thanks for clearing this up. I have no intentions of buying one but still want to see one as it would have been my new ride had I not bought my Uly. I'm glad I bought the Uly instead. | ||||||||||||||||||||
| Jammin_joules |
Come and see it before it's gone! First pre-sold has arrived.  | ||||||||||||||||||||
| Madduck |
The odd thing I hear from dealer friends is that the US supply will be limited to whatever doesn't get spoken for in Europe. The XR racing series seems to be really popular, far more than they first projected, so Europe will get whatever the dealers want. US will get remaining inventory as production will be limited. Getting in line will be the norm and doesn't seem to be causing any furor in dealers. Most only had a few customers who were being annoying about wanting one. Some of them were/are important to HD corporate thus the run of 750 now. | ||||||||||||||||||||
| Jammin_joules |
No such limit is being laid down on us, just first 750 being orange and must be pre-sold to receive. We have the March delivery orders we could ask for what ever number we wanted within our stores' allocation system. Think of that like this: if we sold 75 Sportsters in all of 2008, why would we suddenly be allowed to order 50 XR1200's for 1Q09? That would limit the number of XR1200's other dealers in the country could get. So in that sense, yes, we have limits placed on us.  | ||||||||||||||||||||
| Jammin_joules |
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| Court |
The Euro spec and USA bikes are likely quite different. . . . they are NOT (I'm quite certain) selling excess HDI bikes in the USA. Harley-Davidson, with their stock at an all time low in something like 30 years . . will produce every bike they can sell. They are under considerable pressure. | ||||||||||||||||||||
| Electraglider_1997 |
Court, You haven't accounted for the 5 2:1 splits. The stock would have to go down quite a ways further to be at an all time low. I've owned since 87' and through all the splits. In fact, this stock has made me many times more in dividends than the original investment cost me. (Message edited by electraglider_1997 on December 08, 2008) | ||||||||||||||||||||
| Electraglider_1997 |
Jammin, I'm thinking about getting one of these XR1200's. What are your impressions of the bike you've shown in the above photo's? Is it worth it? | ||||||||||||||||||||
| Aeholton |
I'm thinking about getting one of these XR1200's. Hey Electraglider - me too. Have you seen this link from the thread in the Quickboard? http://www.hdforums.com/forum/sportster-models/299 006-xr1200-200-mile-report.html | ||||||||||||||||||||
| Jammin_joules |
It has a better presence in person than the photos, and they werent/aren't terrible. I can only speak to appearance right now. Ice and rain outside prevent first ride impressions. Inverted forks not adjustable, rear suspension not adjustable either - spoiled by the value that is Buell. Rear foot ctrls are nice touch. This bike would be a great commuter, fun town bike that draws a lot of attention for purely the lineage that it represents where my Uly draws attention because its different and it has a head light burnt out. This would allow me to further hop-up my Uly, go with a 9-primary for instance. ~jammer PS. more on ride impressions when mother nature permits. | ||||||||||||||||||||
| Court |
EG: You are correct. I too bought Harley-Davidson stock in 1987 and you are correct.
In addition there have been 3 dividends in the last year. But the stock has gone from $50.04 to $11.54, it closed at $17.44 today. In addition the big news today was the soaring demand for the XR-1200, but it was coupled with the stock being downgraded an the recall announcement today on the 2009 models. Frankly, it's been a tough month . . .
 I don't, to be honest, see Harley-Davidson trying to artificially restrict supply to increase margin on 750 units. By the way . . . regardless of the downgrades today and some of the analysts positions I see some interesting opportunities for HD in the next year . . . in fact, huge ones. The greatest threat is the "don't touch anything, just keep doing what we've been doing" that permeates some top management. I'm frankly glad to see them bringing people like Susan Henderson in and, don't leak this, but my personal "HOG Dream Team" would be an executive team composed largely of women. But hey . . . I'm a construction worker.  I really like what Matt has done with that XR. Not my style at the moment but that muffler fixes a lot of the stock styling miscues . . . perhaps a muffler worth getting arrested for. | ||||||||||||||||||||
| Madduck |
The Storz high pipes made by Bub will be available shortly and the SuperTrapp high pipes are already available. For those of you who dirt track. | ||||||||||||||||||||
| Court |
Paul: If you get the bike AND the Storz high pipes . . . it's a deal. . . I'll marry you to get your bike. | ||||||||||||||||||||
| Madduck |
Court, I think you're Italian SO will kill us both and a jury of her peers will let her off should you proceed in that endeavor. The High pipes in Black are on order and the XR should be here the end of December. The dealer will put it on the floor till spring for me. A lot of people won't buy something they haven't seen or sat on. Should I die early, I wll leave this one for you tho. Do you want the LSR trophies, from speedweek, we set on the XR's in 2003 and 2004?? (Message edited by MadDuck on December 09, 2008) | ||||||||||||||||||||
| Madduck |
Court, I may have a mid 60's vintage XR roadrace fairing coming to me, one of Roger Reimans spares. Friends are measuring it up to see if it has any chance at all of fitting. Some days life is really good!! | ||||||||||||||||||||
| Cityxslicker |
Damnin Jammin, still waiting on ours, until then theses are the pipes that bike NEEDS.  | ||||||||||||||||||||
| Svh |
The one I saw blazin the freeways around Milwaukee earlier this year had the black pipes and I liked them way more than those chrome things. I still want one though. | ||||||||||||||||||||
| Hangetsu |
Pipes can be changed! And on that note, I had a funny conversation with a local dealer mechanic who was in the process of prepping one of their pre-sold XRs. I was basically pointing out the various oversights in the XRs design & components (minor as they may be)and in a very tongue-in-cheek sort of way, the mechanic looked at me and said with a shit-eat'n grin, "accessories!"; insinuating that Harley intends parts to be changed out and the thing to be heavily accessorized to suit the individual. He was somewhat joking, but if you think about it, he's right. How many Harley's remain original longer than a month after leaving the showroom? HD doesn't build perfect bikes. They build solid platforms to be improved upon and personalized according to personal taste. I think in terms of performance, Buells are about as perfect as a bike can be, right out of the factory. Yet I see buyers of new Buells boasting some pretty major changes they intend on making even before they take delivery on the bike. I'm pretty sure that even if HD set up this XR with top-shelf everything, very few would remain stock for more than a year after hitting the road. Joking as this mechanic may have been, I have a feeling HD intended the XR to be simply a base for something much more custom; to be customized by and to suit the individual customer. That's my gut feeling anyway. A- | ||||||||||||||||||||
| Edgydrifter |
In other words... skulls or flames? Your accessory consultant/lifestyle coach is waiting with a big 'ol book of farkles at the ready. | ||||||||||||||||||||
| Hangetsu |
I was speaking of the dude who would have gone and done the Storz kit. Since HD does produce the real XR, I'm sure there a score of Street-Tracker types out there that HD's eager to please. A- | ||||||||||||||||||||
| Cityxslicker |
friends dont let friends do skullz, especially if they look like they have been ripped off the PeeChee from a Jr High student drawing Skeletor or Punisher all through History class. good gawd, you just know there are going to be a more than a few of them with bags and windshields... | ||||||||||||||||||||
| Wbrisett |
I've never been much of a HD fan. I'm simply not the cruiser type, which is why the Uly spoke to me. That said, this is one HD that I really do like and would own. I like it, for me personally, the only drawback in the pillion "seat", it's the typical sportbike type of thing, but not something that I could let my daughter ride with me on. That means the bike would be for solo riding, and if I'm going to do solo riding, I see the 1125CR (or even the F800GS) more in my future. Of course the problem now is I can only put my butt on one bike at a time, and I have bikes that feel neglected now because they don't get ridden as much as they would like. Wayne | ||||||||||||||||||||
| Electraglider_1997 |
My dealer called me to come out and see the XR1200 that had just arrived. I was looking to trade-in my wife's XL1200R if the XR1200 fit her. First of all it's too tall for my 5'4" better half as she was on her tippy toes. In person and close up it is simply an awesome looking bike and now I have to get it off my mind. I'd love to have that bike sitting in my garage. The bike just works. For those of you who go on about how it doesn't stack up to a Buell, well, you just haven't seen it. The mechanic was setting it up and took it for a ride and it sounds just like a Buell. Now I'm actually entertaining the thought of selling my Electraglide. The pipes it comes with look just fine and won't cook your legs like those pipes on that Photo of the Nightster above. (Message edited by electraglider_1997 on December 10, 2008) | ||||||||||||||||||||
| Electraglider_1997 |
As for comparing the XR with a ULY. Why bother, they are completely different styled bikes. | ||||||||||||||||||||
| Electraglider_1997 |
http://motorcycles.about.com/od/harleydavidson/fr/ Harley_XR1200.htm | ||||||||||||||||||||
| Jammin_joules |
2nd XR1200 uncrated today. Should be under seat of owner, burning gas Saturday - we have a warm spell. ~jammer |
