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Desert_bird
Posted on Wednesday, November 05, 2008 - 04:09 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

OK, got 10K out of a pair of Syncs so definitely going for another pair. Got them mounted myself (sore forearms) and now for balancing .. . hmm what would the shop charge? . . .

"$35!!"

Um,I don't' consider myself stingy. After all, I ride a 12K toy, but am I missing something here? They say they use the "bubble technique" Is there more to balancing a wheel than I think, like some voodoo chanting or other magic? . . .
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Armymedic
Posted on Wednesday, November 05, 2008 - 04:16 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I used 1 oz. in front and 2 oz. in back of Airsoft pellets to dynamically balance wheels on my V strom. Will do the same with my Uly. Works great.
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Teeps
Posted on Wednesday, November 05, 2008 - 04:23 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

DYNA-BEADS

The guys at the VTX owner's forum swear by them.
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Desert_bird
Posted on Wednesday, November 05, 2008 - 04:26 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Dyna who?? Dyna what? Beads to balance wheels? I am/have been missing something . . .
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Rotorhead
Posted on Wednesday, November 05, 2008 - 04:27 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

My "I need a new tool Hun" got me this balancer http://www.marcparnes.com/Harley_Motorcycle_Wheel_ Balancer.htm the price of letting someone else do it. My local HD guy charges $65 an hour to do both wheels. At the rate I have gone through tires it has paid for itself twice. Bounus is I get to keep the tool and do my friends too. Real easy to use and I think is more accurate than the bubble. I can usually balance a new mount in about half a beers time watching it work.

I did find that I was using alot of weight on the rear. I removed the drive sproket turned it 180 dergees out and I use no weight on my current tire.
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Armymedic
Posted on Wednesday, November 05, 2008 - 04:33 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Dyna Beads are small ceramic beads that dynamically balance your wheel while spinning. I used Airsoft pellets cuz they were cheaper. Dyna beads go through the valve stem, whereas I had to feed the pellets in through the sidewall during mounting. I thought it sounded a bit funny at first but after some research and finally doing it myself, I'm sold.
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Hughlysses
Posted on Wednesday, November 05, 2008 - 04:33 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

You can build a balancing stand out of ~3/4" PVC pipe and fittings and a couple of 1/8" x 1" pieces of steel stock. ~$15 for materials. Motorcycle Consumer News published plans ~5 years ago; you may find them on the net somewhere. Takes an hour to build; works great.
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Desert_bird
Posted on Wednesday, November 05, 2008 - 04:35 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Hmm. Thanks.
Looks like I'm going have the shop do it for now and research my options . . . in 10K. I need to ride!
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Luftkoph
Posted on Wednesday, November 05, 2008 - 07:54 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I think if you walk thru the pits you won't see anything but air or nitrogen going into those tires,no fancy spin balancers just static balancers
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Stevem123
Posted on Thursday, November 06, 2008 - 10:18 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Stick the axle back in and use a pair of jack-stands. It's free and works great! Been doing it that way for years and I routinly see speeds above the "Ton" with nary even a slight shake or vibe.

That tool Roterhead uses is only needed if you have the older harley wheels with tapered timken type bearings that need to be held in place. As far as I know none of the Buells have that type of wheel bearing.

BC Steve
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Electraglider_1997
Posted on Thursday, November 06, 2008 - 11:25 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

When you change the tire make sure the wheel is balanced by itself (without tire) before putting on the tire. Then balance with tire on fully inflated. Did it this way on my front tire and ended up using zero weight.
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Xbimmer
Posted on Thursday, November 06, 2008 - 11:59 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

The Buell wheel has a blue dot and I guess a number on the inside of the wheel. The number I'm assuming corresponds to the imbalance at that point.

Just make sure the marked dot(s) on the tire are 180 deg away from the blue spot on the wheel, regardless of valve stem position.

I just had a new Sync mounted on the rear, and made sure the guy did that. Wheel bubble balanced fine without any weights at all.
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Desert_bird
Posted on Thursday, November 06, 2008 - 12:15 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Thanks for all the helpful tips guys. This is the baadest site out there.
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Bobmcc
Posted on Thursday, November 06, 2008 - 12:17 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

My local non-affiliated shop charged $40 to mount and balance a new rear with their fancy spin balancer. I took the wheel off the Uly myself. Like Xbimmer said, I told them to look for the blue reference dot on the rim. They installed 180 away and no weights were required.
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Rotorhead
Posted on Thursday, November 06, 2008 - 03:54 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

The cone shaped spindles just make sure the wheel is centered on the rod. The tools needle bearings are really sensitive.
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Stevem123
Posted on Thursday, November 06, 2008 - 04:16 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

That's cool Rotorhead. Didn't know that.

BC Steve
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Skinstains
Posted on Thursday, November 06, 2008 - 05:26 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Buy or build one yourself. $35.00 is crazy.
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