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Electraglider_1997
Posted on Thursday, October 23, 2008 - 10:24 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

http://www.roehrmotorcycles.com./
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Miamiuly
Posted on Thursday, October 23, 2008 - 10:36 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Technically I'd say the Y2K is the fastest, most powerful, American production sport bike.

But this is a more traditional bike so....

http://www.marineturbine.com/
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Atoms
Posted on Thursday, October 23, 2008 - 07:52 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Both of those bikes are Scratch Out My Eyes ugly.
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Miamiuly
Posted on Thursday, October 23, 2008 - 08:02 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

y2k is definitely fugly but the turbine is too cool.

The roehr is kind of racy looking but I'd have to see it in real life.

Definitely some top notch pieces on it.
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Snowscum
Posted on Thursday, October 23, 2008 - 08:38 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=efID00W3F7I

Wow
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Xbimmer
Posted on Friday, October 24, 2008 - 12:38 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Watching a vid of a Y2K is cool enough but I once had the opportunity of following Leno's from the Rock Store one day.

Sight and sound of machinery is part of the magic, following a motorcycle that permeates your nostrils with the smell of jet fuel is exhilirating!

I rank that up there with 2-strokes on Power Stroke and Model T's on castor oil.
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Ft_bstrd
Posted on Friday, October 24, 2008 - 09:25 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I'd rather have an 1125R.

Do you really think that there wasn't a single opportunity for Erik and crew to try out utilizing the V-Rod engine in their own design?

If it was what Erik and crew felt was worthwhile, don't you think they would have used it?

The Roehr bike is very attractive, and applaud his efforts. It is simply another work around for an engine tasked for another purpose. This was the main holdback in larger popularity for the XB line in the general public and in the press. Why make that same decision again?

Buell made the decision to source a powerplant that would allow for greater attraction in the general public and in the press.

They made a great bike. Why look backward?
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Electraglider_1997
Posted on Friday, October 24, 2008 - 10:58 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

What it does show is that the V-Rod engine can be used in a bike that ends up as light as the ULY. I'd rather have the 1125CR and I haven't ridden either of them. I have ridden the 1125R and enjoyed it quite a bit. Very balanced bike.
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Ft_bstrd
Posted on Friday, October 24, 2008 - 11:27 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

What it does show is that the V-Rod engine can be used in a bike that ends up as light as the ULY.

A Uly isn't light. At 425lbs, it's a porker. The 1125R is 375lbs.

The Roehr is 432 lbs. There's not much difference in the power to weight ratio between the two (2.57 for the 1125R vs. 2.4 for the Roehr).

This all done without supercharging. Without the supercharger, the power to weight ratio is worse.

I like the idea. I like the execution. I wish Mr. Roehrich all the best. He is a fantastic engineer and VERY stand up guy.

I just don't believe that Erik and crew missed the boat not using the engine. There was ample opportunity. The engineering execution simply wasn't there.

At 50lbs more weight than the 1125R, the main reason the engine wasn't used, WEIGHT, still holds true.}
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Skyclad
Posted on Friday, October 24, 2008 - 10:22 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I am glad to see another American company getting into the game.

However, other than the engine, it seems to be very much like every other sports bike out there. Way more power than you can ever use on the street, and the warranty is void if you race it at all, according to the web site. What's the point?
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Midknyte
Posted on Friday, October 24, 2008 - 11:49 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Don't forget Fischer http://www.fischer1.com/index.htm
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Court
Posted on Saturday, October 25, 2008 - 04:52 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I'm confused.

Can you actually BUY a Fischer?

I see a litany of "new for 2009" stuff, then I click on the find a dealer and get a website selling Asian bikes with nary one word about Fischer.

Wazzup?
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Svh
Posted on Saturday, October 25, 2008 - 11:22 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Last I read they were supposed to start producing for 2008 but it seems like that may not have happened. The moto rags liked it as it is an inexpensive American assembled bike that can be hoped up also relatively inexpensively. It uses a knock off of the Suzuki SV650 motor. Maybe the production capital they finally received went the way of Lehman or the dodo.
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Rwven
Posted on Saturday, October 25, 2008 - 11:32 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Ahh Fischer,

I know an employee of the owner of the facility that Fischer assembles their bikes in. I was told (hearsay, but credible hearsay) Fischer is in the process of being evicted (that may not have been the actual word he used, let's say the owner of the building want's him out). I don't think I'd buy one right now...

(Message edited by rwven on October 25, 2008)
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Ft_bstrd
Posted on Saturday, October 25, 2008 - 01:16 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

More American players in the sportbike market is a good thing. Just don't think that ANY American player is a good thing.

Is there a complaint with the Helicon powerplant?

Is it because it isn't built here? Porsche helped design the V-Rod motor. The only difference is that HD had the financial ability and desire to source production here.

If Buell sells enough of the 1125 platform to justify domestic production, they'll move it here as well.

THEN would it be American enough?
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Midknyte
Posted on Monday, October 27, 2008 - 03:02 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Can you actually BUY a Fischer?

Yeah, sure, and you can park it right between your Roehr & your Cysz...
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Ft_bstrd
Posted on Monday, October 27, 2008 - 05:20 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I think the New Norton Commando is at the end of the row.
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Florida_lime
Posted on Monday, October 27, 2008 - 06:01 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I had a deposit on one of the 100 first Nortons until Kenny Dreer through in the towel, and refunded everyone's deposit.

That's when I bought my Uly.
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4cammer
Posted on Monday, October 27, 2008 - 11:43 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

The 1125R/CR is a tool to get non-Buell nuts into the showroom and at least consider a Buell. Having the V-Rod as its engine would most likely not have helped in this endeavor.
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