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Seanp
Posted on Sunday, October 12, 2008 - 09:01 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I was having some wicked trouble aiming the lights, and I couldn't figure out why. It seemed that when I made the low beam the right height, the high beam was way too low...

Then I looked at the manual. Oh. Low beam is right side, high beam is left. A quick switch of the connectors on the ballasts changed them out, and now I think they're right. I don't think the neighbor across the street behind my house is too happy, as I was flashing light into his house at 8:30 last night, on and off, on and off...

I aimed the PIAAs low so that I can leave them on during the day for more visibility.

(Message edited by seanp on October 12, 2008)
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Johnboy777
Posted on Sunday, October 12, 2008 - 11:21 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

""I aimed the PIAAs low so that I can leave them on during the day for more visibility""

Hey Seanp ,

Nice install.

If you run amber/yellow bulbs in your PIAA's, they'll be more conspicuious....just a thought.

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Mikef5000
Posted on Monday, October 13, 2008 - 12:01 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

WOW! I fit two of the larger HID ballasts, along with the relocated horn, and the turn signal relay with two turn signal resistors all under the flyscreen of the lightning! Sweeeet.

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Froggy
Posted on Monday, October 13, 2008 - 12:17 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Good luck getting the air horn in there now! If you figure it out, I will come and steal your bike to reverse engineer it : )
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Midnightrider
Posted on Monday, October 13, 2008 - 02:57 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I reinstalled the HID kit a little differently. I wanted to hard wire these, with relays. I also wanted to avoid the factory harness issues. Lastly, I wanted to be able to run the low beam and the high beam together without either reversing the wires in the factory harness or mucking with the switch.

I decided to run each light ( low and high) independently off after-market switches. I mounted the switch for the low beam inside the right-side handguard and mounted the switch for the high beam inside the left handguard. I positioned these so I can activate them with a finger without taking my hands off either grip.

Everything works fine - but - since these both draw power directly from the battery I know I'm risking a battery drain if I park the bike and walk away without remembering to switch the lights off.

I would like to change the configuration off the relays to be more like the PIAA systen I have for the driving lights I mounted on the Ulytility bracket. The factory PIAA harness has a built in relay. It powers a lighted switch and the lights themselves separately - the switch is powered off a switched circuit ( I tapped into the aux outlet under the flyscreen) but also runs the lights themselves off a separate (fused) power feed from the battery. The relay is sealed so I can't see the pin configuration.

Can anyone tell me how to mimic the PIAA set-up with a relay? I know its just a matter of switching the wires that run to the relay but I thought I'd ask before I start making random guesses.

Thanks
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Mikef5000
Posted on Monday, October 13, 2008 - 07:46 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Why can't you just run the low current side of your relays off a switched circut? Wouldn't that solve all your problems?

Good luck getting the air horn in there now!
I have a tuber horn I was hoping to use because it's a bit louder, but it wouldn't fit, I had to just reuse the OEM horn.
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Seanp
Posted on Monday, October 13, 2008 - 08:20 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Wow, I don't envy you guys with little flyscreens. I have both ballasts, a couple of relays, and two horns under my flyscreen, with room to spare! I guess size does matter sometimes, eh?


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Reepicheep
Posted on Monday, October 13, 2008 - 12:28 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I couldn't get the ballast in there without having the horn touch something else (which keeps it from "ringing" properly). I also was binding throttle cables, they needed some room to play in there.

It was easy to fit under the airbox though. Plenty of room on a lightning for that (no exhaust solenoid).
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Lost_in_ohio
Posted on Monday, October 13, 2008 - 01:51 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Mike it would solve the problem.
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Mikef5000
Posted on Monday, October 13, 2008 - 02:49 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Plenty of room on a lightning for that (no exhaust solenoid).

They still have the exhaust solenoid if you use the special ops pipe though right?

I couldn't get the ballast in there without having the horn touch something else (which keeps it from "ringing" properly). I also was binding throttle cables, they needed some room to play in there.
I forgot to play with the throttle cables after I bolted it back up, I'll have to go make sure they move nice and smooth still.
It was tricky getting the horn not to touch anything, but I think I've got it there.
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Tgale
Posted on Monday, October 13, 2008 - 07:02 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I want to buy a single beam HID conversion kit and a Dual/Bi beam conversion kit. Install both so that i can have the R&L low beams always on and the high beam on when needed? Is this possible?
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Froggy
Posted on Monday, October 13, 2008 - 07:36 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Tgale, the high beam in our bikes is the same as the lowbeam, with the difference being the reflector's aim. Just run with both on during the day, its not going to blind people.
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Lost_in_ohio
Posted on Monday, October 13, 2008 - 09:17 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

The problem with a high beam HID is that it takes 30 seconds or so to get to full intensity, Where I live and ride it would rarely be on that long. So I just left it with a silver star, The High beam simply fills in the low beam.
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Armymedic
Posted on Monday, October 13, 2008 - 09:30 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Anybody using a single beam 50W HID vs the 35W?
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Froggy
Posted on Monday, October 13, 2008 - 09:36 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Army, where did you find one? That is the route i want to take, I rather leave my high as a halogen
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Armymedic
Posted on Monday, October 13, 2008 - 10:38 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I just ordered the following 55W Single HID System:
http://www.ddmlights.com/ddmhidkits.html and the harness at the bottom of this page .(http://www.ddmlights.com/hidkihidbuhi.html) to simplify installation. I like to keep it plug and play as much as possible but don't want to use main harness. I got the 4500K for max brighness. Will run this on low beam and my Silverstar Ultra on High. Will post pics when installed.
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Reepicheep
Posted on Tuesday, October 14, 2008 - 07:32 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Sorry, I should have said a 9 lightning, so no soleniod.

I ended up bolting it to about where the snorkel goes anyway.
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Froggy
Posted on Wednesday, October 15, 2008 - 12:14 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Just ordered from that ddm site, getting dual 8000k 50W bulbs. Forgot to get the harness, so i shot them a email to see if they can add it to the order. Lets see how this works : )
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Rr_eater
Posted on Wednesday, October 15, 2008 - 01:22 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Just a piece for thought about temperature with regards to HIDs. There is supposedly 35% less lumen at 8K then at 5K, though they still offer a marked improvement over halogen, no doubt. So while your bulbs will seam far whiter to Blue then 4.5-5K bulbs would, you will actually have less light. Though with how bright my 4.5K bulbs are, a little less light might not be too bad......

Just my .02

Bruce
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Froggy
Posted on Wednesday, October 15, 2008 - 12:05 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Yes I know, thats why I went with a 50w setup to compensate for that. I want the blueish color more than more light output, Mike already talked me out of the 10k by mentioning Honda Civic : )
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Rr_eater
Posted on Wednesday, October 15, 2008 - 01:27 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

LOL, NICE!!! LOL

I know I love my HIDs, and every vehicle, minus the 16yo's mazda, now has them. You wanna see a HUGE improvement, put HIDs in Euro spec headlights!! WOW!!

These are awesome for the price, no doubt. What really impressed me was the increase in visibility in my Astro Van in the Snow!! It seams, to my eyes, that the HID produced light, produces far less glare, as I could see a LOT farther down the road, in a very familiar part of the road, in the blowing snow, then I ever could before in any vehicle.

If any of you have not gotten in on this deal, you really should. Like I said I have them in all my vehicles save one, and LOVE them!!

Bruce
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Froggy
Posted on Wednesday, October 15, 2008 - 01:39 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Rr, what color do you use?
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Wademan
Posted on Wednesday, October 15, 2008 - 05:11 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I just ordered a set of 4300K, H7's for the Uly. Total, $66.99. I will be using relays for the installation; one tied to an always on source (aux. jack) for the low beam and one tied to the high beam for the high beam. That should throw some light out!!!

Anybody know where to score some of that nice woven wire protecter stuff online? I can find the cheesy split plastic tube but not the nice stuff. Or I could always just hockey tape it...
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Wademan
Posted on Wednesday, October 15, 2008 - 05:13 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Oh and Froggy, that is gonna be BRIGHT!! LOL
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Froggy
Posted on Wednesday, October 15, 2008 - 05:27 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

DDM gave me a call, and I called them back. They got my order straightened out, can't wait till they come. : )
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Midknyte
Posted on Wednesday, October 15, 2008 - 05:51 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Anybody know where to score some of that nice woven wire protecter stuff online?

That sh!t is hard to find. If you want to walk in somewhere and walk out with it anyway.
There's a shop out by me that has it on hand for about 75 cents or so a foot. Give
these cats a call http://www.idealride.com/
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Rr_eater
Posted on Wednesday, October 15, 2008 - 06:01 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Frog

Using the 5Ks in the Uly, way beyond enough light, I am seriously interested to know how yours turn out with the 55W ballasts!!! Should be impressive lighting!! I am using 4.3K in the Van and VW to keep Johnny Law at bay as much as possible about them. I dont think anyone should get hasseled for IMPROVING their visibility, as long as they are aimed properly anyway.....

Bruce
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Seanp
Posted on Thursday, October 16, 2008 - 09:11 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

You know, I mounted the HIDs at the same time as the PIAA driving lights, and I have to say I get a lot more long-range light from the PIAAs than from the HID on high beam. I fiddled around with aiming them a couple of times, and just couldn't seem to get them to shine as far as the PIAAs.

I think I'm going to aim my HIDs down so the high beam is like a low beam, and just use the PIAAs as my long-range high beam and leave both HIDs on all the time.
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Tipsymcstagger
Posted on Thursday, October 16, 2008 - 09:53 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Anybody know where to score some of that nice woven wire protector stuff online?

This is what I used.

Tipsy
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Natron
Posted on Saturday, October 18, 2008 - 09:09 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I just ordered the 4300K set for my Uly.

Hopefully the installation will be as easy as you guys have made it seem.
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