| Author | Message | ||
     Tginnh |
Must have? Nice to have? A farkle worth every cent? Any feedback is most appreciated. (Message edited by tginnh on October 17, 2008) | ||
| Wolfridgerider |
I ran my vent hose so that it would come out in front of the exhaust outlet. Anything that may come out it is blown away from the bike. Just a few bucks at Autozone for some hose and a T fitting Over 32,000 miles and it still "works" | ||
| Skinstains |
I'm with Wolfridge, unless you're on a track where they make you have one...save your money and vent to "atmosphere". | ||
| Jcbikes |
Wolf, Details on what you did please. JC | ||
| Tginnh |
And photos if possible, please. Thanks. | ||
| Wolfridgerider |
Sorry, I don't have any pics. But its pretty easy Take the air box base plate off. Pull the vent hoses out and cap the holes in the base plate with something so air can't come in from above the motor. I used a couple of bolts. Buy a T fitting, 3 feet of hose and 3 hose clamps from the auto parts store. Route the new vent hose out by the exhaust tip but not close enough to get direct heat. Install the T-fitting into each hose. Don't forget to put the clamps on the hoses before you put them together. Re-install the air box. Then ride. | ||
| Dustmann |
Way to be environmentally friendly boys n girls  I would like to hear from someone with the catch can as well, looks nice. | ||
| Tocramed |
I used ABS to make a catch can about 6" long. 3/8 barbed air hose fitting for the vent line inlet, drain on the bottom, and an $8 breather filter from Advanced Autoparts. Stuffed a pot scrubber inside and sprayed it black with grill paint. It cost me about $15 to make and works awesome. Same mod as described above only with a catch can and you won't have oily water spraying everywhere. There are several threads here on badweb with detailed descriptions on how to make one. | ||
| Wademan |
There are several threads here on badweb with detailed descriptions on how to make one. I am lazy, got any links? | ||
| Ft_bstrd |
Way to be environmentally friendly boys n girls And specifically where do you suppose the catch can gets emptied? | ||
| Tocramed |
"And specifically where do you suppose the catch can gets emptied?" In the garage into a rag. I suppose eventually it will end up in a water treatment facility. Sorry, I am stupid and do not know what the drain fitting is called...like the ones on and air compressor tank to drain moisture. Wademan, I just did a quick search for catch can with a number of results...however there is one in particular. Let me see if I can find it. | ||
| Ft_bstrd |
Most people don't. If you are diligent enough to only drain your catch can into an oil reclamation container to then be taken to a reclamation center, great. Most people aren't that diligent. Most people don't drain their oil into storm drains any more. I'm not saying it's a good idea, but motorcycles aren't them most eco-friendly in the first place. If you want to go full bore, I probably shouldn't own a motorcycle at all. I like the idea of a catch can. I just haven't spent the time or the money putting one in. | ||
| Tocramed |
Here is a good one... http://www.badweatherbikers.com/buell/messages/384 2/19434.html | ||
| Froggy |
I usually empty mine at my Dad's gas station, he has a waste oil tank. If I don't, it splooges over my primary   | ||
| Tginnh |
Please go easy on me if I'm being obtuse, but I don't understand why the stock setup does not achieve the same result. Shouldn't all the moisture and oil mist end up in the air cleaner? The catch can rerouting is done after the PCV valves, correct? So, why is it that the moisture doesn't end up in the air filter? Or does it, but the catch can is somehow more efficient or traps more of the effluent? Thanks for your patience. | ||
| Froggy |
In a stock setup, all the crud ends up in your air filter and air intake. This can result in lost performance, as it dosen't take long for it to clog up your filter. There have been dyno runs that show a nice power gain by switching to this setup, but i did it so i wouldn't need a new filter every month. (Now running a washable K&N anyway) | ||
| Dustmann |
And specifically where do you suppose the catch can gets emptied? In my sealed oil pan at home, which subsequently gets emptied and taken to be recycled when it gets full.  | ||
| Werewulf |
i dont think the spooge being burned in the intake is a problem, unless you run too much oil in your tank and get a deluge of oil mist.... i also think you get a bit of negative pressure in your motor with the stock configuration... example... befor 1966, chrysler product used a draft tube that went down the back of the motor and moving air removed blow-by aka spooge from the motor... in 66 if i remember, they went to a pcv valve not unlike what out bikes have... the early motors would be caked with sludge in about 60 thousand miles or so... the motors with the pcv would be clean, using the same oil brands.. we thought it was the hot set up to put the old draft tubes on the newer motors to keep the spooge from being burned....actually, we got no improvement in performance, but it looked cool...chrysler claimed the pcv extended engine life and it wasnt just for epa purposes...my 67 street hemi had a pcv and was an awsome runner.. i could beat a dead horse, but if putting a catch can makes you feel better, by all means do it and it looks cool... ill stick to the stock set-up...i spray a bit of carb cleaner down the intake when i service my bike, to keep the butterfly free of carbon.... thats my opinion...im sure others will disagree.. | ||
| Ftd |
Nice to have. I MT mine once every week or two into an old cooking pot. I then MT that pot into my used oil change bucket which I take to Autozone. Drummer's catch can is a high quality product plus it certainly can't hurt to keep that hot spooge out of your intake. Would an inexpensive alternative work..of course. | ||
| Skinstains |
When i get extra $'s I get stupid and spend it on my son's Buell. I got him the American Sport Bike catch can that was specifically made for the XB's because CCS wanted to see one in tech. It looks cool and it works. I have been told that the oil vapor is good for top end lubrication. Is it...I don't know or care much either way. As for venting to atmosphere............ | ||
| Tginnh |
Thanks to everyone for their feedback. I like the American Sport Bike and the Drummer catch cans. They look like quality parts. However, I also like the ingenuity shared by so many to accomplish the same thing at a fraction of the price. I like the dipstick thermometer sold by American Sport Bike as well, but at $85 plus s/h, it seemed a bit pricey, so I went the meat thermometer route which works great and cost only $9. So, I'm going to take a look at my air filter to see if it's gummed up. If so, I'll probably go the homegrown route. Thanks again to all. The info on this forum is invaluable! | ||
| Froggy |
The meat thermometer came first  I will upgrade to the nicer Dark Horse Moto one when my budget permits. I hate being unemployed! Actually that is a lie, I go riding as much as I want. | ||
| Skinstains |
How does the thermometer help ? What will you do if you deem the oil to be too hot ? It always seemed, to me anyway, something else to worry about. | ||
| Froggy |
If the oil is too hot, you figure out why A bunch of us put it on for testing various mods related to engine heat. | ||
| Tginnh |
I liken it to any information you would want to monitor on your bike. | ||
| Skinstains |
I think I'm from the "less is more" school. Don't fix it 'till it's broken. | ||
| Acejay |
im running the drummer catch can, but the air that comes out is still filthy and greasy, so i run a hose from the catch can down next to the clutch cable and it exits where the kickstand is attached to the bike. that way it blows straight into the path of the exhaust - like wolfridgerider does. works perfectly too. i used to have the vent coming directly off the catch can, but was having similar problems to froggys photo. i couldnt say exactly how much it helps the bike, but it sure keeps the inside of the airbox clean. i empty the splooge into an old tea cup every week or so, or after every tank of fuel. the splooge is partly just water so it evaporates away after sitting on the bench for a few days, then i only need to empty the cup once or twice a year into an old oil container for disposal. |
