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Dlv
Posted on Thursday, October 16, 2008 - 12:09 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I recently purchased a 2008 XB12XT and also this site on a recommendation from a friend. I am a mechanical / maintenance nut and want to purchase a set of front and rear stands. I have seen the Pit Bulls and T-Rex, any suggestions / recommendations?
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Barker
Posted on Thursday, October 16, 2008 - 12:25 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I cant get my rear pitbull to work on my 12x. ( It works great with my Dark Horse Moto sliders, but i'm SOL when I need to drop the rear wheel.)

front pit bull pushes on beak. for me its no biggie. That should be of no concern with a XT (no beak)

I would suggest a rear with those "flat rotating pieces" that hold up the swing arm.
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Barker
Posted on Thursday, October 16, 2008 - 12:29 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

does anybody know if these fit uly/XB?

http://www.handyindustries.com/shop/product_view.a sp?idProduct=167&D=1&S=4

"Special Package Deal! Buy BOTH the Universal Rear Wheel and the Universal Front Wheel (Item # 13012) for $89.00. SAVE!"
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Nipsey
Posted on Thursday, October 16, 2008 - 12:56 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I use Pitbulls - front and rear with no issue. Have used the rear using the sliders and the swingarm.

F0031-000 New front Stand
F0002-000 Standard Rear Stand
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Froggy
Posted on Thursday, October 16, 2008 - 12:57 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

My buddy has Trex, we use it on my bike with no issues. What sucks is the way the front one holds the forks, it blocks the axle so we get creative with some pieces of wood
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Nipsey
Posted on Thursday, October 16, 2008 - 01:01 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Looks a bit toasty and moist in the garage...!
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Dlv
Posted on Thursday, October 16, 2008 - 01:19 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Barker: which rear Pitbull do you own? Is it the F0002-000 Standard Rear Stand that Nipsey uses?
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Dlv
Posted on Thursday, October 16, 2008 - 01:20 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Froggy: that is exactly what I want to avoid. Do others have this experience with the Trex?
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Froggy
Posted on Thursday, October 16, 2008 - 01:39 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Dlv, whatever kind you get, make sure they use the setup that hooks into that pin hole between the forks under the headlight. That way you can drop the wheel no issues.

Nipsey, It wasn't even that hot, he sweats easy.
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Tocramed
Posted on Thursday, October 16, 2008 - 01:52 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I have the Trex front and rear stands. For the front I also have the extended lift with a #2 pin that lifts from the bottom of the triple trees. It does touch the "beak", but with little pressure. Had my 12X up all last winter and it never caused a problem. I bought the universal set on ebay, they work great and are much cheaper than Pitbulls; although the Pitbull stands are nice.
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Wesman
Posted on Thursday, October 16, 2008 - 04:18 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

The T-REX stand is really wide and has no problem straddeling the wide butt on the Buell. Just slide a stout rod through the hollow axle and you are good to go (I used a threaded rod with a piece of electrical conduit over it)
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Froggy
Posted on Thursday, October 16, 2008 - 04:22 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Oh yea, forgot to post a pic of the rear on the trex



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Barker
Posted on Thursday, October 16, 2008 - 04:59 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

this one no worky. bike slides off the rubber things

works great on the nineR, but (imho) the 12x's swing arm is to steep.

SS Rear Stand (Standard/Spooled)

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Al_lighton
Posted on Thursday, October 16, 2008 - 08:47 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

The Pit Bull 1125R stand works GREAT on a Uly.

Al
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Skinstains
Posted on Thursday, October 16, 2008 - 10:09 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I have three bolts and use Pit-bull forward handle universal rear stands on them all the time. I have drilled and tapped a small hole about 4" from the rear of the swingarm and inserted a shoulder bolt to serve as a stop so the bike won't slide off as I'm using my Pit-bul new front stands that use the steering stem to lift the bike. With this set up you can remove both wheels and the fork tubes with no hassles. Reason for the forward handle rear stands...they are easily used by one man and leave more floor room behind your bike in the garage. The Pit-bul rears are used to transport my bikes to and from tracks as far as an eight hour drive with tie downs applying pressure the whole way and have never failed me. They're the real deal, tough stuff and worth the price in my book.
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Nutsosane
Posted on Friday, October 17, 2008 - 08:57 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I have the Pitbull stands and just like Barker the rear slides forward lowering the bike. To counter this, I just put an automotive jack under the muffler when I need to raise the rear to install the wheel. It isn't my favorite thing to do but it does work. The alternative is JB welding a small nut under the swingarm to stop the padded rubber from sliding forward. NUTS
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Nipsey
Posted on Friday, October 17, 2008 - 09:00 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Pic o the PitBull - not had any problems with sliding forward, but then maybe I am not trying hard enough! I did almost drop the bike this morning putting it on the stand to take the pic...that would have been typical.

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Ratbuell
Posted on Friday, October 17, 2008 - 09:37 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

JB WELD!!! I *knew* I was forgetting something!!!

As noted above, I have the slide-forward issue with my pit bulls and the Uly swingarm. I was planning to have the machine shop guys tack a couple pieces of round stock to the bottom as "stops"...but JB would prevent welding on the swingarm, at least until my next service interval. Hmmm...thanks : )
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Dlv
Posted on Friday, October 17, 2008 - 01:16 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Skinstains: your mention of the forward handle on the rear stand is resonating with me. Is using the rear handle version a two man job? Are there any other advantages to the forward handle type?
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Dlv
Posted on Friday, October 17, 2008 - 01:25 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Nutsosane: What is a "JB weld" ? Sounds like some kind of glue or epoxy.
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Tocramed
Posted on Friday, October 17, 2008 - 01:26 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

This rear stand with the Dark Horse Moto rear sliders that have the lift grove work great. It is not a two man job if you are careful. Just put a block of wood under the kick stand to help stand the bike up straighter or if you feel comfortable with your balancing abilities, you can hold the bike more upright with one hand while lifting with the other. It is scary, but I have been doing this for years without a problem...just can't rush it.



(Message edited by tocramed on October 17, 2008)
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Tocramed
Posted on Friday, October 17, 2008 - 01:27 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

It is also universal so it can be used on bikes that don't have sliders as well.
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Skinstains
Posted on Saturday, October 18, 2008 - 12:16 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Dlv, to use the forward handle stand you stand on the left side of the bike, left hand on the left handlebar, right hand on the forward handle of the stand and push down. If you drop the bike doing this than you must have been drunk while doing it. The other advantage to the forward handle is that it doesn't stick out past the bikes rear wheel. this gives you a lot more ground space in your garage plus it makes removing the rear wheel easier as there is no stand behind the bike. I love mine. The sliding forward on the stand issue was solved for me by drilling two small holes, one on the right and one on the left sides of my swingarms about 4" forward of the axle. The holes are drilled and tapped to receive a 1/4" 20 TPI, shoulder bolt. The bolts I use have a 1/2" shoulder. You just put the stand behind the bolts and lift. If you are worried about the structural integrity of the swingarm...don't. I have done this to three Firebolts (one track only 9R, one street only 9R, and one street/track 12R)and have encountered nothing but easy secure lifting. In your original post you stated that you were a mechanical/maintenance nut. For you this should be an easy job. As for the front stand...I highly recommend the one that goes in the steering stem so that wheel and fork tube removal are possible. Let us know what you decided to do.
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Dfishman
Posted on Saturday, October 18, 2008 - 05:16 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

The Handy rear stand works,but you have to heat it & spread it a bit.If you are removing the wheel,just remember to loosen the pinch bolt before you lift it.The raised nub on the bottom of the swingarm holds it from sliding up the swingarm.At the sametime it blocks access to the pinch bolt.REMEMBER to tighten the pinch bolt after you remove the stand.
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Nutsosane
Posted on Sunday, October 19, 2008 - 07:26 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

"JB Weld" is indeed an epoxy like product. Been around forever and you won't catch me welding on the swingarm.NUTS
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Ratbuell
Posted on Sunday, October 19, 2008 - 11:15 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Yep, JBWeld is a 2 part machinable metal epoxy. Great stuff, I've used it for all sorts of things in the past.
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Dlv
Posted on Sunday, October 19, 2008 - 02:40 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Thanks for all the posts. You guys have been very helpful. I have decided to spend the money and get the Pitbull stands. FRONT: New Front Stand (F0031-000) with the #2 pin. REAR: Forward Handle Rear, Standard (F0042-000).
The forward handle on the rear seems to make a lot of sense to me.
I will try to use the "nubs" on the underside of the swingarms at first. If they are not reliable, then I will either drill and tap or use the JB weld stuff. Thanks again!
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Tginnh
Posted on Sunday, October 19, 2008 - 06:24 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Froggy / Tocramed - thanks for the feedback on the t-rex model. I just ordered one:
http://t-rex-racing.com/catalog.php?item=3&catid=4 5&ret=catalog.php%3Fcategory%3D45
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Tginnh
Posted on Saturday, October 25, 2008 - 04:43 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Got my stand yesterday - works great. Seems very secure under the swingarm.
One person job.


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Jphish
Posted on Sunday, October 26, 2008 - 11:38 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Stands ?? Good to practice using rocks or other roadside debris...cuz thats what your going to have to change the belt or fix a flat (done both) on some road side less traveled. Just tilt it up on the stand, place the rock front or rearward on the muffler/skidplate and voil - you're ready for the wenches.
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Rotorhead
Posted on Sunday, October 26, 2008 - 12:15 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

You Ain't kidding!! I've never had a breakdown in my garage. The cases work as good side stands. I recomend leaning to the right

or left

depending on which way gravity pulls the bike down.
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Bearly
Posted on Sunday, October 26, 2008 - 02:15 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I have the Pit Bull stands and I'm getting along with them just fine. The fist rear stand I had would slide up the swing arm a lot. That lowered the rear tire witch made it more difficult to change the rear wheel, but wasn't too much of a problem as long as you kept the belt guard on. The belt guard kept it from sliding all the way up. I would imagine if that happen the tire would touch the ground.

This new rear stand I bought for the 1125R it works great for the Uly and the SS. I used the other for other peoples bikes (yellow jap bike in the pictures) that stop in as well as the blast who's swing arm isn't at a steep angle.
Here are the pics!

The front stand on the 06 Uly


Pit Buell rear stand on the 06 Uly


As you can see in this next picture, the forward first two pegs support the bike and the rear peg keeps the bike from sliding back.


There is plenty of room to work with both stands and more than enough room to rotate the engine.


(Message edited by bearly on October 26, 2008)
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