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Hughlysses
Posted on Monday, October 06, 2008 - 12:53 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Just wondering if anybody's done a conversion on theirs yet- I'm considering it after my first long two-up weekend with my Uly. So far, 95% of my riding has been on pavement and I'm thinking dropping the bike 1" would make me much more comfortable with it riding two-up.

I'm mainly wondering what the minimum required parts are for the conversion. I'm thinking for the rear- an XB12XT rear shock and spring, and reuse my existing preload adjuster. For the front, I can install Precision Engineering bar risers and drop the triple clamps an inch, but I'm a little concerned the stock Uly suspension will allow too much sag during hard cornering with the reduced clearance. Could I get by with substituting the XB12XT front fork springs, or would I need to get the full fork legs? I'm guessing the XB12XT forks are re-valved and re-sprung compared to the X. Lastly, I guess I'd need a new kickstand, probably the new 09 variety.

Anybody ever done the conversion or at least priced the parts?

Thanks in advance.
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Thrux181
Posted on Tuesday, October 07, 2008 - 10:24 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I hope someone in the know or has an opinion on this. I have wondered about that myself. PS Was that you camped next to Brad, Bruce and Micah at Suches?

Bill
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Etennuly
Posted on Tuesday, October 07, 2008 - 10:54 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Hey Bill, the wife and I enjoyed meeting you in the campground at TWO.

Hugh, Gotj lowered his '06 Uly when he got it. He will have some ideas for you.
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Hughlysses
Posted on Tuesday, October 07, 2008 - 04:43 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Bill- No, I stayed at C3 Central with the NC gang.

Vern- I searched for some of Gotj's posts. Sounds like he wound up with a shortened rear shock, dropped triple clamps, and a shortened kickstand.

I saw a lowered Uly at March Badness IV and talked to the owner for a while, but I don't think he's a BadWebber. IIRC he sent shock and forks to Traxxion Dynamics and had them altered to suit; he shortened the kickstand. It was a nice looking conversion; seems like he even had a webpage on it. He wanted the bike strictly as a sport-tourer and was willing to give up the height for optimum handling.

I got a price on the parts from MiketheBike at Ray Price; looks like the fork legs, rear shock (complete) and kickstand for an XB12XT will run around $1200. Based on the reviews I've read on the XB12XT (improved ride and handling over the XB12X), that's the way I'm leaning.
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Gotj
Posted on Tuesday, October 07, 2008 - 06:35 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Hughlysses,

Another possible option that I can imagine is to just replace the fork's internals with the XT's. I don't know how much that would save but it wouldn't be a hard job. When I have some spare time, that's what I'm going to look at.
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Hughlysses
Posted on Tuesday, October 07, 2008 - 08:49 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

George- Mike looked into replacing fork parts but he thought it would be more trouble than it was worth- the cost would be almost as much and there'd be a lot of disassembly/reassembly involved.
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Yo_barry
Posted on Tuesday, October 07, 2008 - 09:25 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Forks on the XT are 43mm, on the Uly, 47mm.

Don't think swapping the internals would be an option.
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Froggy
Posted on Tuesday, October 07, 2008 - 09:54 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

His X is a 07, it has 43mm.
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Werewulf
Posted on Wednesday, October 08, 2008 - 10:40 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

i just run my tires with ten pounds of air... it will lower the bike a lot...
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Longdog_cymru
Posted on Wednesday, October 08, 2008 - 02:00 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Hughlysses,

The guy with the lowered Uly was almost certainly Warbaby who used to post on here. He does indeed have a webpage and here is the URL for it....

http://www.zenfire.ws/buell.htm
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Hughlysses
Posted on Wednesday, October 08, 2008 - 06:06 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Mike- that's the guy! Wow, I didn't realize he'd dropped it 2 inches. That is one low Uly.
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Longdog_cymru
Posted on Thursday, October 09, 2008 - 06:17 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Yeah! It's pretty impressive, isn't it?

I was wondering if you couldn't just slip on a set of 43mm tube XB forks from a Firebolt or Lightning into Uly triple clamps and a Lightning Long rear shock to get the same effect?
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Hughlysses
Posted on Thursday, October 09, 2008 - 01:51 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Mike- the easy "poor man's" way to do lower a Uly is the shorter shock in rear (someone's got a new TT shock for sale in the classifieds right now), and in the front install bar risers which will give you enough room to drop the triple clamps an inch.
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Longdog_cymru
Posted on Thursday, October 09, 2008 - 05:54 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Thanks Hughlysses,

Is the TT shock the same as the Lightning Long?
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Hughlysses
Posted on Thursday, October 09, 2008 - 06:19 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Mike, I don't think it's exactly the same, but it's close. The valving was supposed to be slightly different on the TT's; the TT was dropped for 09 but the XB12Ss now has the TT suspension components.
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Longdog_cymru
Posted on Friday, October 10, 2008 - 08:47 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Thanks Hugh, I gather the length of the TT shock is the same as the Lightning Long then?
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Sodamichael
Posted on Friday, October 10, 2008 - 09:17 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Hugh, I've been thinking of doing the same thing to mine but wasn't sure what all would be involved. Is it just the fork legs, or the internals too? By the way, i live just down from you in Kings Grant - been keeping up with the posts but haven't had anything to add.
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Hughlysses
Posted on Friday, October 10, 2008 - 10:00 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Hey Michael- wow, another Buell rider in Summerville. Be sure and check in over in the SC Buell Riders forum: http://www.badweatherbikers.com/buell/messages/37/ 130123.html?

The price included the complete fork tube assemblies at ~$325 or so each. Evidently the XT forks have different springs and valving, and I'd imagine the lower fork tubes are shorter as well.
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