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Hughlysses
Posted on Friday, September 26, 2008 - 06:24 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I was googling tonight and stumbled onto the fact that evidently some ATV's use the same 6006-2RS sealed ball bearings as the rear of the Uly. Here's one on-line source for them:

http://www.bikebandit.com/product/A5086765

(only $5.89 each!)

This might be good to know if you ever have a bearing go out on the road and a bearing supply house isn't handy. Seems like there's a reasonable chance that your local powersports dealer may have bearings that'll work.
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Hughlysses
Posted on Friday, September 26, 2008 - 06:32 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Addendum- here's a listing of all the ATV's these bearings fit from another supplier's webpage:

6006-2RS - 30 x 55 x 13 ATV Wheel Bearing This Part Fits:

Honda

ATC70

Suzuki

LT-4WD QuadRunner
LT-A400 Eiger 2x4 Auto
LT-A400 Eiger Auto
LT-A400F Eiger 4x4 Auto
LT-A500F QuadMaster 4x4
LT-A500F QuadRunner 4x4
LT-A500F Vinson 4x4
LT-F250 QuadRunner
LT-F250F QuadRunner 4x4
LT-F300F KingQuad 4x4
LT-F400 Eiger 2x4 Manual
LT-F400 Eiger Manual
LT-F400F Eiger 4x4 Manual
LT-F4WDX KingQuad
LT-F4WDX QuadRunner
LT-F500F QuadRunner 4x4

Yamaha

YFB250 Timberwolf 4x4
YFM100 Champ
YFM350 Big Bear
YFM350 Big Bear 2x4
YFM350 Big Bear 4x4
YFM350 Big Bear SE
YFM350 Wolverine 4x4
YFM350ER
YFM400 Big Bear
YFM400 Big Bear 400
YFM400 Big Bear 4x4
YFM400 Kodiak
YFM400 Kodiak 2x4
YFM400 Kodiak 4x4
YFM400 Kodiak Bear
YFM400 Kodiak Bear 4x4
YFM450 Kodiak 4x4
YFM600 Grizzly
YFM600 Grizzly 4x4
YFM660 Grizzly 4x4
YFM80 Badger
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Chrisrogers3
Posted on Friday, September 26, 2008 - 06:49 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

hmmm I wonder if these bearings have different quality/strength codes.

It seems like "If its too good to be true it probably is"

less than 6 bucks a bearing is very tempting but at the same time scares me that they are so inexpensive/cheap.

I think I am going to check with my local shop tomorrow and see what they have.
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Hughlysses
Posted on Friday, September 26, 2008 - 07:34 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I'm pretty sure a 6006 is a 6006 as far as load rating goes. An engineer has to design around the generic bearing spec so any bearing meeting that spec should work.

OTOH you're probably getting a better quality bearing going with a known name brand. My main interest in this is if you're broken down in the middle of nowhere you should be able to go into an ATV store and find a bearing for one of these ATVs fairly easily. Hopefully these bearings would be more than adequate to keep you on the road for a few hundred miles until you can get a higher-quality name brand bearing.

(Message edited by Hughlysses on September 26, 2008)
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Panhead_dan
Posted on Friday, September 26, 2008 - 07:39 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Are you telling me that my pride and joy runs a Honda ATC70 rear wheel bearing?
No wonder we are having failures!
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Cycletlh
Posted on Saturday, September 27, 2008 - 01:57 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Not sure, but I think the V-Strom uses the same bearing also. They have an extra seal on both sides so no failure there.
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Thetable
Posted on Saturday, September 27, 2008 - 01:59 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I have run AllBalls bearings on a few other bikes with no problems. They are actually one of the better bearing brands I have experienced.

Distributor part numbers Here
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Keith_mahoney
Posted on Saturday, September 27, 2008 - 03:37 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

quote/ (hmmm I wonder if these bearings have different quality/strength codes.

It seems like "If its too good to be true it probably is"

less than 6 bucks a bearing is very tempting but at the same time scares me that they are so inexpensive/cheap.

I think I am going to check with my local shop tomorrow and see what they have.)

I had an Eiger that I put through hell for thousands of miles. I am a firefighter so at my last base I only worked every other day. So about 3 times week I was out at Busco beach all day long rain (preferably) or shine
http://www.buscobeach.com/
That quad had outlaw tires on it and spent its whole life under mud or 5ft in the air.
It never had a bearing failure but had to have the carb rebuilt all the time from the mud (even with a big ol snorkel) and she smoked a bit.
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Michael1
Posted on Saturday, September 27, 2008 - 05:27 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Yes, they are cheap for a reason. Their supplier most likely procurrs the bearings out of a certain Asian country. THe problem with this is, there is a TON of mfg'ers out of this country and you never know what you are going to get. If you can get them from the big name companies, you are still getting a quality product.

Just Buyer Beware....
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Hughlysses
Posted on Sunday, September 28, 2008 - 03:00 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

From what I've seen AllBalls offers most (maybe all?) of their bearings in either a "produced in China version" or a "produced in Japan" version for a few more $$.

Like I said, the purpose of this thread was not to say "hey, we can get new wheel bearings for $6", but to spread the word about a possible source for bearings in case any of us break down on the road.

BTW- I looked at an 09 XB12XT and an 09 1125CR at the local dealer today. The rear bearings on the Uly still had the orange seals, but the ones on the 1125CR (which are the same bearing) had black seals. This would seem to be a confirmation that they've upgraded the seals based on the bearing failures we've seen.
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Froggy
Posted on Sunday, September 28, 2008 - 07:23 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Hugh from what i can tell, its August built or later bikes with the new seals. I haven't seen any July's with black seals. Why didn't they pick green or something? Gonna be confusing picking up a 03 XB9 with black seals
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Hughlysses
Posted on Sunday, September 28, 2008 - 07:55 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Frank- I didn't think to check the build dates, but if I go back in I will. I didn't have my glasses on or I would have tried to see if there was any different designation for the bearing on the edge.
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Pso
Posted on Monday, September 29, 2008 - 08:18 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Interesting-Is this what Abe (or whomever it was) was talking about a new bearing with a better seal coming out in late Aug? Maybe onto something here.
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Jlnance
Posted on Monday, September 29, 2008 - 09:00 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

BTW- I looked at an 09 XB12XT and an 09 1125CR at the local dealer today. The rear bearings on the Uly still had the orange seals, but the ones on the 1125CR (which are the same bearing) had black seals


#!*$*## - It would go a long way toward improved customer relations if we didn't have to reverse engineer this information ourselves.
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Hughlysses
Posted on Monday, September 29, 2008 - 10:01 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

#!*$*## - It would go a long way toward improved customer relations if we didn't have to reverse engineer this information ourselves.

Yea, no kidding. I checked with Stone Mountain, and the parts lady there said there's not a new part number for 09, but that doesn't mean the bearings themselves aren't different. Maybe Court would check through back-channels for us?
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Neurorider
Posted on Tuesday, September 30, 2008 - 10:52 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Hughlysses, thanks for that info. That's valuable to me, as I like having options. There are a whole lot more Honda and Yamaha dealers out there than Buell, and being able to cross-reference a part when you break down is very usable information in my book! I may order a couple of them and see what they look like.
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