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Electraglider_1997
| | Posted on Wednesday, August 27, 2008 - 11:12 am: | 
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I don't really have a heat problem with my bike. Here are photos of what I did way last year ( look at the Wednesday, October 10, 2007 - 11:00 am: post ) http://www.badweatherbikers.com/buell/messages/142 838/295156.html
I also use the heat deflectors but IMHO you must seal them otherwise the heat blows out around them.
I don't use heat blankets because I let the heat exit back at the under-seat tray where I bore a bunch of holes for the heat to escape and keep water out of there with pvc street elbows. Removed the bungee hook hole covers also to let air flow through.
Seat dam has holes bored into it to let warm air flow through.
Rear brake reservoir removed and I just plugged end of hose which is under no more pressure than just atmospheric. Have never had to add brake fluid and brake has worked just fine since I did this last year. You can see the plug and it hanging it a couple of the photos. I am not recommending this method but only showing how I handled the brake fluid reservoir situation.
I do feel heat that radiates from the frame tank but I do not have heat blowing out and cooking my leg. I have 16,000 miles and original fan on my 06'. I monitor my oil temp with a dip stick thermometer and even when it is in the high 90's out the oil tops out a 200 F degrees. I use Mobil 1 auto 15W50. When the temps get to 70 or below the fan rarely if ever goes on except at shutdown. |
Kuuud
| | Posted on Wednesday, August 27, 2008 - 03:24 pm: |
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+1 for Odie's blanket and an RSS! I had almost given up riding the Uly in warm weather before the changes! |
Kpfetz
| | Posted on Wednesday, August 27, 2008 - 04:39 pm: |
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Hi Kuuud,
Thanks for your response and I have one question, you use the initials RSS, does that mean right side scoop? Others have recommended that too but it sure is expensive ($229). I hate to spend alot of money on problems that Buell should have addressed themselves. Thanks again,
Pete
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Svh
| | Posted on Wednesday, August 27, 2008 - 06:34 pm: |
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RSS is right side scoop. You will get varying opinions on it from everybody. Some swear by it like Kuuud and others say it is useless. |
Mark_weiss
| | Posted on Thursday, September 04, 2008 - 03:35 pm: |
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Some data:
Surface temp of stock header, idling after 11 mile commute: 420 F. Surface temp of Jet Hot coated header, same circumstance: 325 F.
Surface temp of frame, just behind 'knee curve' after lining frame with Thermotec: left 110F, right 115F. Temp at frame-footpeg mount interface: left 115F, right 125F. I neglected to check this before lining the frame so I don't have a quantitative comparison. Seems cooler though.
Temp of air blowing from right side subframe opening. Engine off, fan running, 160F. Stock plastic duct, rear m/c reservoir in standard location.
Temperatures checked with a thermocouple.
Mark
in Arizona |
Danger_dave
| | Posted on Thursday, September 04, 2008 - 06:32 pm: |
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But, but, but I don't have any Uly heat issues. |
Glitch
| | Posted on Thursday, September 04, 2008 - 09:27 pm: |
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But, but, but I don't have any Uly heat issues.
I was more expecting something like...I dunno...
HTFU |
Danger_dave
| | Posted on Thursday, September 04, 2008 - 09:36 pm: |
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I've entered a polite phase - you (^#@$)^*. |
Glitch
| | Posted on Thursday, September 04, 2008 - 09:41 pm: |
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Do tell, well then, good on ya.
Get a haircut too?
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Danger_dave
| | Posted on Thursday, September 04, 2008 - 11:50 pm: |
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When I'm 50. |
Bertotti
| | Posted on Friday, September 05, 2008 - 12:03 am: |
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I had an rss and i loved the look. It absolutely made the fan run less and my right leg was a bit cooler. I was not however convinced the fan not running was a good thing. It seemed to me that more heat was sitting up high on the heads. My seat felt a bit warmer also. I really noticed the fan coming on a lot after I took it of. I could make all kinds of trips around town and the fan wouldn't run till the engine was shut down, now it's back to on for the shortest little jaunts. |
Conchop
| | Posted on Friday, September 05, 2008 - 09:11 am: |
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Anybody have an rss, corbin seat, or a drummer for sale, drop me a line - don@consolidatedchopper.com |
Red_chili
| | Posted on Friday, September 05, 2008 - 09:23 am: |
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I have a RSS, Odie's blanket, and the '07 scoops. But what made the HUGEST difference was getting the mixture out of the 'hellishly lean' area. Seems like I read something about a Buell solution to tuning the DDFI3 for the '08s+ somewhere...
(Message edited by Red_Chili on September 05, 2008) |
Electraglider_1997
| | Posted on Friday, September 05, 2008 - 11:30 am: |
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The only time I tried something like a RSS it caused my oil temps to rise as measured at the swingarm oil tank. It was not a purchased RSS but this http://www.badweatherbikers.com/buell/messages/142 838/363918.html
Read the Post on Thursday, June 05, 2008 - 06:25 pm:
Anyways, I've never ever seen the oil temps that high except while running air from the right side. |
Johnboy777
| | Posted on Friday, September 05, 2008 - 12:27 pm: |
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Hey EG,
Few months back I cooked a bird using your temp gauge .. the wife never knew.
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Electraglider_1997
| | Posted on Friday, September 05, 2008 - 05:41 pm: |
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Johnboy,
Heck, I took my own temp and I ain't talking orally. Then I used it to check the turkey. Mmmm mmmm good. |
Mark_weiss
| | Posted on Wednesday, September 10, 2008 - 02:44 pm: |
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A note on the temperature readings from me. Those were taken on a day where the ambient temp was 107F.
I've continued to check temps and have a few interesting notes. Immediately after shut down, with the fan still running, the air temp in the right side subframe air deflector is over 160F, air just behind the fan, alongside the shock, is only 135F.
While checking this sort of thing, I noticed that there was a jet of hot air shooting from the bike, at the plastic air deflector to frame interface. A closer look revealed that there's a slight gap at the forward end of the plastic insert. Turns out that this gap pretty well lines up with the hot spot that I've notice on my right thigh. This morning I removed the deflector and applied a piece of weatherstripping to the back edge of the frame so that the gap would be sealed with the air deflector.
This has got to fall into the "Duh!" category. The weatherstripping made a tremendous difference. The hot spot on my leg was eliminated. Too bad I had not seen Electraglider's note about sealing the deflectors about 4 months ago.
Mark
in Arizona
(Message edited by mark_weiss on September 10, 2008) |
Electraglider_1997
| | Posted on Thursday, September 11, 2008 - 11:28 am: |
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Bartimus
| | Posted on Friday, September 12, 2008 - 12:49 am: |
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Mark,
I'm here in Phoenix also, and trying to ride an '08 Uly.
Can you post some pics of what you did?
Where exactly did you seal it up?
Bart |
Petereid
| | Posted on Friday, September 12, 2008 - 11:36 am: |
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I'm with Dave on this one.......It's not really warm enough that it is an issue for me |
Gsilvernale
| | Posted on Sunday, September 14, 2008 - 11:01 am: |
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SEAL THE GAP!
The gap between the seat and frame is the culprit. If you seal this, then very little hot air will blow onto your right thigh.
I was amazed at the difference. 5 minutes and a little HVAC tape cured the heat problem. It does not completely eliminate the problem, but it is definetly a drastic reduction. |
Mark_weiss
| | Posted on Monday, September 15, 2008 - 09:28 pm: |
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Mark,
I'm here in Phoenix also, and trying to ride an '08 Uly.
Can you post some pics of what you did?
Where exactly did you seal it up?
Here are a few photos. This is version 2. V1 was a bunch of smaller strips, each sealing part of the gap. When I was done, I realized that it would be easier, and neater, if I just sealed the whole thing.
Mark
in Arizona
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Bartimus
| | Posted on Monday, September 15, 2008 - 10:21 pm: |
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My seat and vents seem ok on mine, all my heat is coming from the frame...
The right side left a burn mark on the inside of my right leg on the homecoming trip last July. |
Red_chili
| | Posted on Tuesday, September 16, 2008 - 11:04 am: |
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You are running leaner than you need to. |
Gsilvernale
| | Posted on Tuesday, September 16, 2008 - 06:49 pm: |
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Bartimus, have you put a heat barrier on the inside of the frame? Automotive stuff works great. |
Bartimus
| | Posted on Thursday, September 18, 2008 - 01:02 am: |
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no, no heat barrier, just repeated trips to the dealer to resolve the idle issue, the surging issue, and the heat issue... |
Froggy
| | Posted on Thursday, September 18, 2008 - 01:13 am: |
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Kpfetz, did you ever resolve your issue? |
Kpfetz
| | Posted on Sunday, October 12, 2008 - 01:41 am: |
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Hi Guys,
My computer has been broken for awhile so haven't been able to reply here. I added the sheepskin on the seat, that made the seat slightly more comfortable and a little cooler. Then based on the local dealer's suggestion had the pipes Jet Hot coated in silver, looks great but for the price I don't notice a big reduction in heat. I would suggest wrap on the pipes instead, much cheaper and probably just as effective. I have the Odie heat blanket but haven't installed it yet so hope that will help. I'll also probably try insulating the inside of the frame since that gets so hot. |
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