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Electraglider_1997
| | Posted on Tuesday, July 15, 2008 - 01:07 pm: | 
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It's not the current crop of riders Buell/Hog would be trying to entice to buy their scooter, it's the current non rider that would become a rider. Less than 1% of the population rides two wheeled vehicles so the opportunities are practically limitless. The Italians are already making scooters and apparently a profit. Let MV Agusta/Cagiva design and build the scooter. Or Buell could make it. If designed properly, it could be just the thing to provide more jobs within the company.
One of the things that bothers me about removing oil from the earth is the void that is left where the oil is extracted. If we are pumping water into these areas that we've taken oil from, isn't that a problem in itself. Water does us surface dwellers absolutely zero good after it's injected miles below the earth's surface. Just like oil, there is a finite amount of fresh water on this planet and we shouldn't be making it unavailable forevermore by pumping it down into the bowels of the earth. Maybe that is what happened on Mars and eventually it tipped the scales and made it uninhabitable millions of years ago. |
Court
| | Posted on Tuesday, July 15, 2008 - 02:48 pm: |
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How many days did it take today's light and heat to arrive here from the sun? |
Johnboy777
| | Posted on Tuesday, July 15, 2008 - 03:03 pm: |
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Hey EG,
I don't think water will never be a insurmountable problem.
The planet is 70% water and evaporation from the oceans is how we get most of our rainfall.
You would have to bury a huge volume of water (thereby reducuing the surface area earths oceans) to come close to impacting the evaparation/rian cycle on the planet.
Droughts have to do with climate (weather patterns) more so than anything else.
The reason for water conservation has more to do with capacity (the rate of distribution) and availability, than the overall amount of water itself, present within our planet.
Current water sources can only stretch so far. Additional sources can be brought on line - but at what price?
Economics - the price of water, however, may be the real limiting factor, the real long-term problem, if you want to call it that.
New development, in a given region, can potentially be impacted, based simply on the cost to deliver (availability), or time required for new infrastructure, to deliver the resource.
An interesting side-note is that the water table here in NE Ohio (which emanates from Lake Eire) is dropping (further and further from the surface), so that water well drilling has had to go deeper and deep to find well water.
Desalination is a viable (although pricey) option as well, for tuning saltwater into drinking water. There is a huge desalination plant in the UAE right now, so the technology currently exists.
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Buelldualsport
| | Posted on Tuesday, July 15, 2008 - 03:23 pm: |
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JB
If memory serves, fresh water was at about 5- 100 feet in Ashtabula County when I was chasing the elusive oil/gas rewards in the later 70/early 80s.
How mush deeper is fresh water now?
Buells to Alaska ALCAN 5000 210 |
Jlnance
| | Posted on Tuesday, July 15, 2008 - 03:25 pm: |
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The Italians are already making scooters and apparently a profit. Let MV Agusta/Cagiva design and build the scooter.
The reason HD could buy them is they were just about bankrupt. But I digress.
Buell's easiest route to capitalize on this is the Blast. They have what I have been told is the bike with the second highest gas mileage, and all of a sudden we have $4.00/gal gas prices.
I honestly don't think they are particularly interested though. I don't see much work happening on the Blast, I don't think Erik lays awake at night dreaming about Blast improvements any longer. And I can understand that. You can only be invested in so many projects, and the 1125 has got to be a lot more exciting than the Blast. I'd welcome some Blast updates if they were to happen though. |
Court
| | Posted on Tuesday, July 15, 2008 - 03:48 pm: |
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>>>Buell's easiest route to capitalize on this is the Blast.
That's easy to say . . . it gets more complicated the more facts you have. |
Thesmaz
| | Posted on Tuesday, July 15, 2008 - 04:13 pm: |
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How many days did it take today's light and heat to arrive here from the sun?
Isn't it something like 8 or 9 minutes for the light waves !?! Don't know about the heat waves  |
Chadhargis
| | Posted on Tuesday, July 15, 2008 - 04:17 pm: |
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I bought a Kymco 125cc scooter for running around the pits and commuting. I get around 85mpg, and the little scoot will easily run 50mph with my 200lb butt on board. More than fast enough on secondary roads.
I think HD/Buell should keep doing what they do best. Maybe with the aqusition of MV, they can enter the scooter market, but to make a HD or Buell branded scooter, in my opinion, would be a mistake. Especially given how much of the HD marketing engine is driven from the "lifestyle". Don't you know, REAL men don't ride scooters. And only REAL men ride Harleys. So if Harley made a scooter, would you be a real man or not? |
Johnboy777
| | Posted on Tuesday, July 15, 2008 - 04:21 pm: |
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""How mush deeper is fresh water now? ""
I'm not familiar with the water tables in that county, but as a general rule of thumb, the closer to the lake, the closer to the surface. There are other factors, as well, that cause it to very.
Here in Mahoning county, Springfield Twp., Ohio (50 miles from the lake), my back yard, we've seen it go from 75' - 90' up to 210' over the last 50 years or so. Don't get me wrong, they can still hit water at less than 200' (130, 150, 175, etc.)... but not 75' anymore, and the average depth, keeps getting higher.
My dad built his house in '56 or so on my grandfathers farm. His well was 70' IIRC. After I sold the farm in the late '80's the developer who bought it was building on the land and drilling wells at over 130' to get water. People have had to re-drill their wells as well, and existing wells don't replenish as quickly.
Another possible factor, we have plenty of stripper cuts in the area - strip mining just plays havoc with the water table(s) too, and not just within the immediate area (as was once thought).
Thankfully, our community is finally getting more aggressively involved in the oversight of the strip mining process here.
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Johnboy777
| | Posted on Tuesday, July 15, 2008 - 04:24 pm: |
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Sorry EG, didn't mean to go off topic like this on your thread.
My bad!
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Cityxslicker
| | Posted on Tuesday, July 15, 2008 - 06:27 pm: |
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Scooters I would buy...
The Ruckus, The Mad Ass, The Kikker 5150, The Whizzer (working on that one) and the new favorite, the Derringer.
http://derringercycles.com/
Damn you CorporateMonkey. Now I am really jones-in for that board tracker, in orange of course |
Skyclad
| | Posted on Tuesday, July 15, 2008 - 07:01 pm: |
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How many days did it take today's light and heat to arrive here from the sun?
Isn't it something like 8 or 9 minutes for the light waves !?! Don't know about the heat waves
8 minutes for the light and heat. Both are energy waves, not particles (without getting into quantum physics) and travel at the same speed. |
Bigdaddy
| | Posted on Tuesday, July 15, 2008 - 08:03 pm: |
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I've owned a couple Blasts and they're good. If they'd rework it and do some modernization *stuff* to the model I'd go buy one the day they were released.
I still regret getting rid of the last one I had. |
Old_mil
| | Posted on Tuesday, July 15, 2008 - 11:53 pm: |
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Personally I like the size of the Quest 2...but it's a bit slow when it comes to recalculating routes. |
Atoms
| | Posted on Wednesday, July 16, 2008 - 01:15 pm: |
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Scooters I would buy:
The Ruckus
Scooters I wish they still sold here:
The Big Ruckus |
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