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Erase
Posted on Monday, June 16, 2008 - 03:09 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Are you happy with your XT or should you of bought something else?
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Jammin_joules
Posted on Monday, June 16, 2008 - 03:19 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Here is what the first buyer at our shop had to say about his XT in an e-mail reply to my follow up on the purchase:

The XT has been great so far. Karen (my wife) and I did a trip up to Salt Lake for the World Superbike races on it recently. Went through Utah, Idaho, Wyoming, and of course Colorado. She and I both absolutely love the bike.
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Natexlh1000
Posted on Monday, June 16, 2008 - 03:32 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Well if you're a tall fella like me, you would be better served buying an XB12X, like me : )
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Gotj
Posted on Monday, June 16, 2008 - 07:11 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

"Well if you're a tall fella like me, you would be better served buying an XB12X, like me."

Care to elaborate? I don't understand what being taller has to do with choosing one model or the other.
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Danger_dave
Posted on Monday, June 16, 2008 - 07:17 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

>> I don't understand what being taller has to do with choosing one model or the other.<<


I wouldn't buy an XT - it's too short for me.
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Ft_bstrd
Posted on Monday, June 16, 2008 - 07:20 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Given the option, I would still have bought an XB12X (or an STT).
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Nevrenuf
Posted on Monday, June 16, 2008 - 07:27 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

i've been enjoying the xt quite a bit. it's good to have a bike that i don't mind using more than the m2, especially so maybe the m2 will stay around a little longer. now if i can get some kind of throttle lock (for when i'm riding the superslab) and some kind of head set for some tunes and comunication (when the wife is with me) i would probably spend even more time on it than the ultra. it's a great ride.
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Metalstorm
Posted on Monday, June 16, 2008 - 07:28 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I have no desire to ride a near 500 lbs bike off road (not sure if I have the off road skill to do it even if I wanted to) so the XT with it's street tuned suspension would be perfect for me.

As far as gravel roads and fire roads go, if I can maneuver a Sportster and a 12Scg down these roads, an XT would be cake : )

On Edit: I've been playing the "what if I could afford a new bike" fantasy in my head for some time now and I've been torn between the XT and the 1125R.
I've noticed though that I visit the Big, Bad and Dirty board a lot but have visited the 1125R board only a couple times.
I think that's telling me something.
The XT or standard Uly for those who need the longer suspension are the perfect all around get around bikes.



(Message edited by Metalstorm on June 16, 2008)
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Gotj
Posted on Monday, June 16, 2008 - 08:11 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

"I wouldn't buy an XT - it's too short for me."

Too short for what? The XT has the same rider/passenger ergos as the X. What DO you mean? Come on now, spit it out.
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Danger_dave
Posted on Monday, June 16, 2008 - 08:23 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

2006 BUELL ULYSSES XB12X
Seat height 33 in. (841mm)

XB12XT
Seat height is 30.7 inches.

It's too short for me. Plus I use EVERY inch of the long travel suspension.

(Message edited by danger_dave on June 16, 2008)
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Petereid
Posted on Monday, June 16, 2008 - 08:31 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Happy with my XT. Like Nev my previous bike was an Ultra (ok it was 8 years ago) but I find the XT just as comfortable and a little more fun. It also seems to handle better on "non-paved" roads.
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Danger_dave
Posted on Monday, June 16, 2008 - 08:35 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Don't worry about me - I'm just pissed off that the XT has replaced the X in my market.
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Crusty
Posted on Monday, June 16, 2008 - 08:39 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I'm 5'8" tall with a 30" inseam, and I traded my 2006 XB12X in on a 2008 XB12XT.
I really like the XT. I like it a LOT. The XT is the bike I've been asking for since Buell dropped the S3-T.
There isn't a bike out there that I'd rather have.
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Ft_bstrd
Posted on Monday, June 16, 2008 - 09:39 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I would most likely dispense with the X for an STT were I to trade up.
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Gotj
Posted on Monday, June 16, 2008 - 10:07 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

"Plus I use EVERY inch of the long travel suspension. "

OK. It really has nothing to do with your HEIGHT which prompted my original question. I can understand wanting the longer travel suspension, NOT because you're a "tall fella" per Natex, but because of your riding style or terrain. The X doesn't give you one millimeter more of on-bike room than the XT so I still don't understand why the seat height makes any difference due to the rider's height.

In fact, on the road the XT would be faster than the X AND the STT BECAUSE it is lower. It's closer to being a sport bike than either of them. In fact, I would call it a sport bike for big people. What's there not to love about the XT except for its somewhat limited off-road prowess (still better than a CityX). Oh, I forgot. It doesn't have that "beak" for those caught up in the style thing.
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Sekalilgai
Posted on Monday, June 16, 2008 - 10:16 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Hiya George
I think the XT comes with the 'low' seat standard. This, combined with the slightly reduced suspension travel, gave the overall seat-height reduction. During the test ride I took it felt a little more cramped than mine with the 07 seat...with the foot-down situation notwithstanding.

(Message edited by sekalilgai on June 16, 2008)
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Jlnance
Posted on Monday, June 16, 2008 - 10:20 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I've been torn between the XT and the 1125R.

I briefly toyed with the idea of trading my Uly for an 1125. Then I rode an 1125 at VIR. It's a fantastic track bike. But I came away knowing I was keeping the Uly. It's better at everything I actually use a bike for. If I was going to do a lot of track riding, I would probably feel differently.
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Ft_bstrd
Posted on Monday, June 16, 2008 - 10:22 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

In fact, on the road the XT would be faster than the X AND the STT BECAUSE it is lower.



So does that mean that the SCG is the fastest of all the bikes?
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Jlnance
Posted on Monday, June 16, 2008 - 10:25 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I don't understand what being taller has to do with choosing one model or the other.

On long trips I like to dangle my legs occasionally. They would drag on a bike shorter than the X.

I also like the long travel suspension. It does lead to a large amount of brake dive, but on the plus side, it soaks up bumps well. And it's nice to be able to ride off a curb w/o bumping the muffler. If I wasn't as tall as I am, I couldn't deal with the bike when stopped, and I'd certainly get the XT instead.
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Jettdawg
Posted on Monday, June 16, 2008 - 10:33 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

To those who said they'd take an STT over an XT... why?
I'm planning to buy a new Buell pretty soon and trying to decide between an STT and an SS (the XT is a little out of my price range) so I'm curious as to why some say they prefer the STT.
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Fung
Posted on Monday, June 16, 2008 - 10:37 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I really like my xt. is fun and comfortable. I'm 5'8, if the seat could go lower i may like that. other than that its great.
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Gotj
Posted on Monday, June 16, 2008 - 10:43 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Hey Ken,

I think the 07 and 08 seats are the same. The only low seat is the 06 version. I don't know why you would have felt cramped unless the handlebars were set up differently. They have an XT at SMHD-B but I haven't tried it yet.
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Ft_bstrd
Posted on Monday, June 16, 2008 - 10:44 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I'd like to have a little more suspension travel than an SS. I don't really use the luggage much, and there are after market options should I chose to use them.

I prefer the looks of the STT to either the X or the XT. Had it been available when I bought the X, I would have bought the STT instead.

I would also like to have the STT suspension. It's subtly different, but damn nice.

Plus, you'd be able to swap out plastics to make any color bike you'd like. I can't do that with the X o the XT.

You also have seat options that aren't available with either the X or XT.

You would still have much of the off road capability that the X has.
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Nevrenuf
Posted on Monday, June 16, 2008 - 10:48 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

that's another thing i like about the xt that i can't do on the m2 and that's to hang the legs down off the side and get some circulation in them. it's also nice that you don't alway's have to down shift to get around cars when i am hanging the legs down.
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Sekalilgai
Posted on Monday, June 16, 2008 - 11:28 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

George
oops I must've misunderstood what the Buell site meant
http://www.buell.com/en_us/gear/accessories/Produc t.asp?Menu_ID=2&ProductLineID=2&CategoryID=3&Produ ctID=4000
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Danger_dave
Posted on Tuesday, June 17, 2008 - 02:19 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

>>"Plus I use EVERY inch of the long travel suspension. "

OK. It really has nothing to do with your HEIGHT which prompted my original question<<

Yeah it does.
Perhaps you have to be 6'5" to understand.

The XT feels like a significantly smaller bike - particularly with the short arse seat - that makes a big difference to the comfort.

It doesn't speak to me like a X does.
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Nevrenuf
Posted on Tuesday, June 17, 2008 - 07:29 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

is the xt seat the same as the low seat that sekalilgai posted. it says that there's gell in that one and i just can't tell if the xt seat has gell in it or not.
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Ulyranger
Posted on Tuesday, June 17, 2008 - 08:09 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

This is all kind of funny. Park my XT (w/beak) next to an X and unless you squat down to get a profile look across the seats/air box covers you're hard pressed to tell the difference. To each their own. BTW, the seats are the same.......

I'll try to get this back on track. Erase, the XT is absolutely the best bike I've ever ridden, exactly what I wanted. No, do not wish I'd bought anything else. After going on a couple of rides recently with a GSer and swapping seats I KNOW I made the correct choice for me. The XT tours nicely, handling on back road twisties is just sick and it "poses" on the seasonal truck trails quite well. The motor is awesome and the suspension eats everything I throw at it. The only limitation for "off-road" travel for me has been the stock tires, but knowing that and driving appropriately is the key.
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Jammin_joules
Posted on Tuesday, June 17, 2008 - 08:26 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

The XB12X seat height is 31.8"
where as the XB12XT is 30.7"

More importantly, the XB12XT is built off the XB12SS chassis rather than a down-sized version of the XB12X. If you look at these bikes next to each other you will see what I mean. The XB12X tail section on a Lightning Long is what you are looking at primarily.

Even the wheels are not the heavier reinforced wheels to the Ulysses (for its off-roading adventuring).
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Gotj
Posted on Tuesday, June 17, 2008 - 09:08 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

"More importantly, the XB12XT is built off the XB12SS chassis...."

Joules,

What ARE you smoking (drinking, sniffing)?
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